An impossible search...? - johnnyrev

I think I am looking for something which doesn't exist! I would like a reasonable spacious vehicle to accomate wife, child and two dogs, and be able to take all of these plus luggage, plus occasional passengers (but 5 seats is enough).

I would like something utilitarian for stowing the dogs after muddy dogs (when they get wet and muddy they like to wait until they are in the car and then shake the water and mud off!).

I also need a petrol engine as I only do around 5000 mile a year, mainly short journeys. I would also like to buy new or newish for under £20k.

Am I asking the impossible? Have looked at various people carriers (currently have a Doblo whose interior is suffering with the dogs), vans with windows and even a Danbury T2 people carrier. Any advice welcomed!

An impossible search...? - unthrottled

How about any of the large estates?

MPV sounds so much more useful than an estate, but then 'mechanically operated entrenchment tool' sounds better than 'spade'.

An impossible search...? - johnnyrev

An estate could be an option, except that with dogs in boot, there is no luggage space. At least with my Doblo there is a split level boot so the dogs go on the parcel shelf halfway up the boot and there is luggage space underneath.How do dog owners manage when they go on hols? Roof box, trailer?

Edited by johnnyrev on 06/01/2012 at 11:24

An impossible search...? - oldroverboy

An estate could be an option, except that with dogs in boot, there is no luggage space. At least with my Doblo there is a split level boot so the dogs go on the parcel shelf halfway up the boot and there is luggage space underneath.How do dog owners manage when they go on hols? Roof box, trailer?

Surely you are not considering putting the dogs in the roof box or the trailer, we've had enough jokes about the mother-in-law in the roof box!

An impossible search...? - Auristocrat

Citroen Berlingo, or Skoda Roomster? As regards the loadspace for the dogs, you could get a boot liner to help protect the interior

Passenger versions of vans are virtually all diesel (eg. Vauxhall Vivaro/Renault Traffic/Nissan Primstar, Vauxhall Combi (Corsa), Nissan NV200). If you are willing to consider diesel, a double cab pickup (with a load space hardtop) may be worth looking at. The Hyundai i800 or the Hyundai iLoad Comfort Crew may be worth a look.

Edited by Auristocrat on 06/01/2012 at 11:26

An impossible search...? - ChannelZ

My aunt has a Renault Kangoo for exactly the same uses. It's only a few months old, and has got a 1.6VVT petrol engine.

An impossible search...? - Auristocrat

My aunt has a Renault Kangoo for exactly the same uses. It's only a few months old, and has got a 1.6VVT petrol engine.

The reason I didn't include the Kangoo, is that the passenger versions of the Kangoo and Traffic are being discontinued in the UK from next month - they're also cutting the Laguna, Espace, Modus/Grand Modus and Wind.

An impossible search...? - ChannelZ

My aunt has a Renault Kangoo for exactly the same uses. It's only a few months old, and has got a 1.6VVT petrol engine.

The reason I didn't include the Kangoo, is that the passenger versions of the Kangoo and Traffic are being discontinued in the UK from next month - they're also cutting the Laguna, Espace, Modus/Grand Modus and Wind.

Fair point, but they're still available to buy nearly new. Just because they're not bringing any more in to the UK doesn't mean the ones already here suddenly vanish. :)

The new model Kangoo is mostly Clio - dash parts are Clio III, as are engines, suspension etc, so no worries about parts in the future.

An impossible search...? - Auristocrat

True - but the new Kangoos almost certainly won't have the revised aftercare package (4 year warranty, etc),

An impossible search...? - unthrottled

I've had no difficulty getting a labrador into the back of an estate-where it will co-exist quite happily with luggage.

In fact, dogs tend to prefer a compact travelling area, especially on shorter journeys because the snugness gives them a feeling of security during braking and cornering.

My dog's preferred travelling space is the passenger footwell since it is shaped perfectly. The only downside (apart the hairs) is that sometimes I end up trying to change gear with a snout!

Edited by unthrottled on 06/01/2012 at 12:19

An impossible search...? - Bobbin Threadbare

I've had no difficulty getting a labrador into the back of an estate-where it will co-exist quite happily with luggage.

In fact, dogs tend to prefer a compact travelling area, especially on shorter journeys because the snugness gives them a feeling of security during braking and cornering.

My dog's preferred travelling space is the passenger footwell since it is shaped perfectly. The only downside (apart the hairs) is that sometimes I end up trying to change gear with a snout!

When giving my aunt and her guide dog (a very large labrador) a lift, the dog likes to be in the footwell (and will do this in an Aygo as well) and lick the gearstick and my little air freshener tree.

How about a Berlingo?

An impossible search...? - unthrottled

little air freshener tree.

Heavy smoker or heavy halitosis? :P

Those magic trees are awful!

An impossible search...? - Bobbin Threadbare

little air freshener tree.

Heavy smoker or heavy halitosis? :P

Those magic trees are awful!

My car smells like cake :-)

The previous owner had a dog; I am convinced even after 18mo ownership that it still smells like dog.

An impossible search...? - TeeCee

Sounds like a case for a double-cab pickup with a box on the back to me.

I've no ideas on these, but I am sure one of the assembled multitudes can make a recommendation as to make/model.

An impossible search...? - Paul G1pdc

my wife has a volvo estate that we use for 2x children and dog duties.

we only have a little cocker spaniel (training to become a Medical Detection Dog) for my 9 year old son.

the estate has a plastic dog carrier crate in the rear, and also an ebay purchased velco in boot liner that goes up to side window height.

so for holidays the junk goes around and on top of the dog carrier (we also fit a volvo dog guard to the rear seats, so we don't get take out by a flying bucket or spade!!

also fit a roof box, and take that off when we get to the farm we stay on for a week...the box knocks the mpg down from 38 to 34 on our petrol estate. two bolts on each side of the standard roof rails. takes 10mins to remove.....that includes having a mug of tea at the same time.....hahaha

paul

volvo estate,

and 2008 Mitsubish Lancer saloon

An impossible search...? - Trilogy

Our dog and all I can remember like a room, or even better a vroom, with a view. :)

So no footwells for them.

How about a Seat Altea? I believe it has a shelved boot. Or maybe a Renault Scenic?

An impossible search...? - jamie745

Unless they've got 7 seats, anything MPV shaped is merely a big hatchback and no more or less practical for day to day use than a big estate car.

An impossible search...? - fredthefifth

SEAT Alhambra was the best utilty vehicle I have owned. With five seats it is a large estate. With two seats (occasionally) it is massive.

An impossible search...? - Trilogy

jamie, 'no more or less practical for day to day use than a big estate car'.

That depends. Its not necessarily as black and white as you imply. :)

An impossible search...? - jamie745

That depends. Its not necessarily as black and white as you imply. :)

Then instead of doing your usual of spouting non sequiturs without foundation, why dont you actually provide a constructive post in which you tell me exactly what it depends on and elaborate on the specifics of the aforementioned and alleged grey area.

:)

An impossible search...? - gordonbennet

Not impossible but you'll need to buy well to keep to the 20k budget if it has to be new..

Toyota Hilux twin cab pick up, a rear canopy for shelter for the dogs will be about a grand including plastic liners but overpriced at the Toyota dealer, you can throw the dogs in as muddy as a basking hippo and just hose the truck bed out after.

You won't get a genuine UK truck with a petrol engine you'd have to get a grey through Sinoridban Thailand or via one of the parallel importers here, 2.7 Toyota V6 is the petrol.

However the Diesel won't have a DPF so you won't have any worries about only doing a low mileage, commercial VED at about £210 is sweet.

I had one for 3 and half years from new in 07, i may well have another in due course.

More comfortable and nicer to drive than you would think, the auto box rivals the best reliable torque converter boxes fitted to exeucutive cars.

You can get other makes around the same price and cheaper, they won't hold their value like the Toyota though, i got 2/3rds of my purchase price back after 3.5 years and not a trade in price either, however the vehicle was as new..

An impossible search...? - Trilogy

jamie,

Then instead of doing your usual of spouting non sequiturs without foundation, why dont you actually provide a constructive post in which you tell me exactly what it depends on and elaborate on the specifics of the aforementioned and alleged grey area.

Good to see you're back on form. :)

An impossible search...? - Avant

Johnnyrev - I agree with GB: a twin-cab pickup like the Toyota ticks more of your boxes than anything else. If that's too extreme a solution, and what you want is something like your Doblo only bigger, a Skoda Roomster is worh a look or perhaps a Nissan Qashqai.

The Roomster is ugly, but you've got a Doblo so you probably don't mind that!