all makes - When the lights go out - conman

Is it just me or are there hundreds of cars driving around with one headlight working.It's frightening if motorists won't even keep their cars legal and roadworthy by changing a bulb, what else are they not doing, tyres, wiperblades, rear lights, etc.

it takes only minutes to change a bulb on most cars even on an AYGO, whilst replacing one in my sons car I shedded my fingers. Happy days.

all makes - When the lights go out - bathtub tom

Don ef ta wurry abell tit 'til it's free yeers ole d'ye, den der MOT guy'l sort it.

;>)

Edited by bathtub tom on 19/12/2011 at 23:57

all makes - When the lights go out - Peter.N.

Bulbs used to be easy to change - now it sometimes means dismantling the front of the car! Even so you would think that people would like to see where they are going. What annoys me more is the number of cars there are with misaligned dipped headlights that nearly blind you.

all makes - When the lights go out - Roly93

On my previos Audi A4 the only input in the manual regarding bulbs said - take to dealership. At £100 per hour they were expensive bulbs. Alos the MK 2 Ford Focus was very difficult to change headlamp bulbs on. However we now have the Mk3 Focus and the B8 Audi A4 and both are much better designed on the major bulb access front.

all makes - When the lights go out - Galad

My local Toyota dealer doesn't charge labour for replacing headlight bulbs on my Avensis which is just as well because it would be impossible for me to do it. Halfords guy gave up on SWMBO's Corsa D and FiL's Scenic landed him a bill for £75+vat because the front bumper had to be removed. Car makers need to get this sorted. Not much point carrying spare bulbs driving in France!

all makes - When the lights go out - gordonbennet

The only way to make most people bother about such things is to hit them in the pocket, VOSA who sort out errant commercial vehicles could administer this if they were given stop powers for private cars, a few instant fines and a thorough roadside examination over half an hour by a VOSA inspector who is no fool would wake them up, they'd soon sort out those idiots with bodged ebay HID kits too, the fines would self finance the system.

Edited by gordonbennet on 23/12/2011 at 14:48

all makes - When the lights go out - madf

Agreed.

And seize the cars ,,, and pay for them to be stored etc.

As they are non roadworthy take them off the road at once if it's deliberate - eg HIDs..

Edited by madf on 23/12/2011 at 14:58

all makes - When the lights go out - dadbif
THe requirement to carry spare bulbs was recently rescinded in Spain because of the level of difficulty replacing them, I still carry them though, dead easy to change on my C3 Picasso
all makes - When the lights go out - mss1tw

Replacing the number plate lamps on the Berlingo involves removing the interior AND exterior trim/mouldings.

I replaced them with LED's, so hopefully it's a job I won't have to do again.

I have of course introduced a new rattle since the work...

all makes - When the lights go out - Hamsafar

I agree, on my Audi A8, there is a blown sidelight bulb.

The manual says take to the dealer who charge £115/hr,

I got the factory manual, it says drain power steering and remove reservoir, but the pipe clips are inaccessible in order to remove it from the pipes, unless the rather substantial roadwheel and wheel arch liners/insulators are removed.

I am in the process of buying high quality replacement bulbs and will do all of them, inclduing the HIDs.

all makes - When the lights go out - TeeCee

I got the factory manual, it says drain power steering and remove reservoir, but the pipe clips are inaccessible in order to remove it from the pipes, unless the rather substantial roadwheel and wheel arch liners/insulators are removed.

So much for the alleged logic, thought and care in German design......

all makes - When the lights go out - MikeTorque

Perhaps the powers that be should consider fining vehicle manufacturers who design a car/vehicle that makes it impossible to change a main beam bulb at night, utterly bonkers.

Take the Focus mk2, the latest VW Polo, the list goes on, you have to undo a screw/screws and then remove the whole of the front light unit ,and unless you know the little knack of how to lift the thing over the hold groves then you'll never remove it, then you need to unplug the bulb connector before being able to access the bulb itself.

All this and no sign of an engine light to help out, where have all the engine lights gone these days ? The poor motorist doesn't stand a chance, I mean how many people carry a torch or head torch in their car these cars, a few but most don't, besides by the time you've figured out how to change a main beam bulb the torch batteries will have gone, then you could be landed with a light unit out and no idea how to put it back cus you can't see how it slots in and it's dark.

In daylight sure it's fine once you know how to do it and have the necessary tools it's a 5 to 10 minute job per light but try doing the same job when it's dark and you've no chance.

Ok so the Focus mk3 is easier to change a main beam bulb than the on mk 2, a wonderful breakthrough in design engineering !

However, it's easier to change a bulb on a vintage Morris Oxford, vintage Astra, vintage Ford Escort etc. so how come these car manufacturers have messed up so badly with their engine design layouts that resulted in the creation of a safety situation for the end user who purchases their product and then finds themself needing to change a headlight bulb at their own risk ?

Solutions :
Females, smile and ask a bloke, well that's what my sister-in-law did the other week, she was carrying a spares set in the car, job sorted.
Males - smile and ask a bloke, do it yourself, thanks mate, bet if I asked my sister-in-law to come and smile at you you'd fix it. Easier to fix it yourself, now what does this screw do, oh heck that's the one that turns the beam upwards and blinds oncoming drivers, oh is that why so many blokes cars have a light pointing at the stars !

Edited by MikeTorque on 23/12/2011 at 22:50

all makes - When the lights go out - Bobbin Threadbare

Solutions :
Females, smile and ask a bloke, well that's what my sister-in-law did the other week, she was carrying a spares set in the car, job sorted.

Cheeky! I had a Mk II Focus - I changed my own headlight bulbs. Little hands y'see.

all makes - When the lights go out - MikeTorque

Yes little hands do help although it's still a squeeze. My sister-in-law isn't mechanically minded so needed to ask for help, goodness knows how she managed to target a bloke who knew how to do the job, must be intuition.

I prefer to take out the Focus headlight unit although I can just reach the bulbs without needing to do that but my hands tend to get hacked in the process, it's easier for me to pop out the lamp unit and get full access to the bulb connectors.

all makes - When the lights go out - MrEckerslikefromRamsbottom

Little hands make light work?

And I thought the bulbs were difficult to change on my Mk6 Fiesta! They're simplicity itself compared to some of the stories above! I've actually made it a bit easier by changing the three torx screws holding each headlamp for Acme screws with a 10mm hex head (all car-parts shops sell them) - easier to remove using a tiny ratchet handle.. And I've found Osram H4 bulbs which claim to be long-life on the Internet. Since fitting those I've seen Philips Ecovision H4 bulbs which claim to take a lower current than standard bulbs (and so use less fuel) and they also claim to last longer than standard bulbs. I've previously fitted sidelight bulbs (the little wedge-fitting 5w ones) that haven't lasted a month in Winter, but the more expensive ones from Halfords have lasted over twelve months.

Can you image the criticism that a commercial vehicle manufacturer would get if they made a van that had to go back to the dealer for a new side-light bulb!!

I agree that all vehicle bulbs should be easily replaceable at the side of the road even on a wet and windy Winter Wednesday night in West Wales.