2007 Punto Sporting 1.4. - Cutting out - almac

Hi all,

my son's car has started to cut out as he is approaching a junction, traffic lights etc. It always re-starts first time. It has also cut out once as he was accelerating from a minor road on to a major one. Any thoughts?

Thanks, Alan.

2007 Punto Sporting 1.4. - Cutting out - mark

I presume it’s the 1.4 16v?

If so my son has the same issue. He has asked on the Fiat Forums without receiving a coherent reply (all the replies he received have related to the 8v engine)

I suspect it could be the throttle body needs cleaning or a lazy sensor.

I will fit a new temperature sensor over Christmas and see if this helps and report back.

As always

Mark

2007 Punto Sporting 1.4. - Cutting out - almac

Mark, sorry yes it is the 1.4 16v. Our local independant is actually able to look at it tomorrow, so if he comes up with anything definate I'll let you know. Thanks anyway, Alan.

2007 Punto Sporting 1.4. - Cutting out - mark

Thanks Alan

I will be most interested to hear the outcome. My son has no fault lights showing not even when it cuts out so the £75 that the FIAT dealer suggested should be spent to "read the fault codes" was not as I doubt anything has been stored.

The induction system is quite easy to check for leaks and I have not been able to find one anywhere before where the trunking joins the block.

So that leads me to suspect the throttle body or a sensor. A other possibility is a "software update" but at the eyewatering prices the local FIAT garage charges I am reluctant unless it is most certainly that.

The temp sensor is only about £15 on shop4parts; the only other sensor they list for the 1.4 16v is a lambda sensor and there are 2 on this car which are about £55 each if needed but again from the symptoms I do not think the fault lies there.

Therefore the temp sensor seemed a good cheap place to start in the absence of a leak. The airfilter was changed as were the plugs 5 months ago so I doubt it lies there (the filter was nice and clean when I stripped the induction system).

No one on the Fiat forum seem to know the 16v at all they all waffle on about the 8v which is a completely different engine design and I suspect some of those that post there do not even own a car they just regurgitate posts by others. Other than that it could be a crank sensor but lets see what diagnosis you get tomorrow.

As always

Mark

Edited by mark on 14/12/2011 at 20:27

2007 Punto Sporting 1.4. - Cutting out - almac

Mark, it appears to have been a split in a breather pipe, we collect the car tomorrow so hopefully will talk to the mechanic for more details. Cheers, Alan.

2007 Punto Sporting 1.4. - Cutting out - mark

Alan

Thank you for that, I now feel good that looking for a leak in the first instance was a step in the right direction.

The location of the pipe in question would be handy to know as I would hope its the same pipe and is a design issue for this model that is causing the fault on my Son's car..

I eagerly await your next update.

Best regards

2007 Punto Sporting 1.4. - Cutting out - almac

Mark, spoke to the mechanic this morning and (surprise surprise) when he took the car out the fault did not show. Anyway he eventually found a leak in the pipe that runs between the rocker cover and the inlet manifold. I don't think this was the first place he looked.

Hope this helps, Alan.

2007 Punto Sporting 1.4. - Cutting out - mark

Alan

Thank you for kindly for supplying the additional information.

This will save a lot of time when my son brings the car over for me to have another look.

If it turns out to be something else I will report back.

Thanks again

As always

Mark

2007 Punto Sporting 1.4. - Cutting out - mark

Hi Alan

Just to update on this

I have just had a look at my sons car and indeed there was an air leak due to a split rubber pipe which ran between the rocker box and the inlet manifold. It looks like the pipe is just a little too short for the job it does and flexes with normal engine movement causing the split. I would therefore guess this will in time affect anyone who has this model. The pipe was an breather pipe as there was no fluid present when examined and was of quite thick gauge rubber which enabled me to make an easy temporary repair.

The split was about 6cm so as a temporary repair the pipe wall was superglued together and taped up but a new one will need to be sourced.

It does seem to have done the trick for the moment so many thanks for the hint as to where to look.

As always

Mark

Edited by mark on 05/01/2012 at 15:26