Golf TDI 1.9 - 2006 Golf TDI Disappointment!!!!!!!! - hayram

I am really at my wits end with this vehicle and could do with some advice!! I really want to know if people think i have a right 2 complain.. (although im not sure who 2)

First problem started after I had the vehicle for 6 months (purchased 2 years ago)

1: was informed the timing belt needed changing after i had M.O.T as the vehicle had 58,000 mile on clock, so paid 800 pound for this.

2: 2 month later driving at 70 mph on motorway.. car totally cuts out!!!!!!!! nearly causing a severe accident!!!!!!!! called green flag, after popping the bonnet i was informed that the cause of the problem was over tightened timing belt. paid 500 pound to get towed to garage that had repaired timing belt as i was only covered 10 mile radious.

3: garage argued it wasent there fault but agreed to re-do in the end after a few arguments.

4: picked vehicle up after about 3 weeks?????? said there was something wrong with cam shaft? but again i refused 2 pay.. upon pulling car away i noticed black smoke they said they would look at it again.. rang me said my turbo had gone???? paid 1,000 pound....

5: from then i have had black smoke coming out of vehicle, obviously i had no faith in this particular garage and took to a main dealer i have had pay around 3,000 on repairing vehicle for various faults, around 400 pound hiring vehicles.

Any ideas??

Edited by Avant on 02/12/2011 at 22:23

Golf TDI 1.9 - 2006 Golf TDI Disappointment!!!!!!!! - injection doc

Sounds very much like its not so much the vehicle but the garage that have been repairing it !

As for where you stand hopefully someone can advise but I think somewhere along the line you should of had an independant inspectation and report from an engineer !

Sounds as if you have been extremley patient ! did the dealer not comment on what fault was causing the black smoke, was it a worn out cam lobe ( common when wrong oil used) or EGR valve ?

Golf TDI 1.9 - 2006 Golf TDI Disappointment!!!!!!!! - Roly93

Sounds very much like its not so much the vehicle but the garage that have been repairing it !

I think thats about right, not only are they extremely greedy - £800 for cam belt change, but they are obviously incompetent too. You need some legal advice.

Golf TDI 1.9 - 2006 Golf TDI Disappointment!!!!!!!! - OldSkoOL

Also sounds like the garage pulling a fast one

It is highly unlikely for a turbo to go pop like that.

Of course it is possible if they start pulling things out and simulate or even worse, cause failure.

It is totally mental for them to claim the over tightining of the cam belt wasn't their problem. They fitted it just months earilier.


My only advice would be beg, borrow or pay for advice of a mechanic you can trust. Ask around and pay him to inspect whats going on. Its going to cost and you might loose out if they are telling the truth but if not you should have an independant report which might flag up any neglegence.

If it were me and this was true i would threaten to write to every newspapper, radio station, regulatory body and print flyers off to post in the local area unless they fixed it.

Golf TDI 1.9 - 2006 Golf TDI Disappointment!!!!!!!! - renorti

£800 for a belt change, 3hours work? looks like another crap garage.

Golf TDI 1.9 - 2006 Golf TDI Disappointment!!!!!!!! - DevonJohn

Guys,

I have in the past had the same model and year of vehicle and the Turbo is a bit of a weak point VW's. I personally have replaced 2 turbos on the 1.9 tdi vw engine one a Golf at 63000miles and the other a passat at 81000 miles. I would suggest contacting a local VW specialist for a bit of a chat about it, you will find the guys there will be a bit more honest about things going regularly rather the the local dealer saying ....oh I've never had one of them go before! Worth while doing a bit of research before writing slanderous things all over the internet!

Golf TDI 1.9 - 2006 Golf TDI Disappointment!!!!!!!! - unthrottled

Not sure I would describe Garrett turbos as weak points of an engine....

Golf TDI 1.9 - 2006 Golf TDI Disappointment!!!!!!!! - 659FBE

Nor me. In my experience VAG dealers in particular replace about twice as many turbochargers as they should - and many of those probably only require the vane control ring de-coking.

Properly treated (including lubrication) I have found Garrett turbochargers to be of above average reliability for a component of this type.

VAG diesels need to be maintained and repaired by people who have a real understanding of their workings and by people who are capable of the most meticulouis standards of workmanship.

A dealer is not the place I would be looking for this.

659.

Golf TDI 1.9 - 2006 Golf TDI Disappointment!!!!!!!! - unthrottled

The sloppy diagnosis of 'failed' turbos needs to be curbed. OEMs should instruct their dealerships to return all replaced turbos to them for analysis. If the turbo is found to only require decoking, the dealership should have to reimburse the customer out of their own pocket.

If a large number of turbos are failing due to poor lubrication/cooling, a modification to the oil/cooling system is probably required.

Golf TDI 1.9 - 2006 Golf TDI Disappointment!!!!!!!! - madf

Not sure I would describe Garrett turbos as weak points of an engine....

Toyota use them in their diesles with no problems..

BUT Toyota dealers are usually 100% competent. Unlike VAG, Renault, Renault and Renault.

Golf TDI 1.9 - 2006 Golf TDI Disappointment!!!!!!!! - unthrottled

Loads of manufacturers use Garretts. A lot of people don't understand that car makers don't build their own turbos or fuel injection systems.

Garrett (and the other big turbo makers) get their turbos to last thousands of hours at 20psi+ in HD engines without a problem.

Golf TDI 1.9 - 2006 Golf TDI Disappointment!!!!!!!! - dieseldogg

Yawn, 241,000 on a variable vane turbo on a 110BHP 1.9 VW TDI, run on tractor oil & generally worked hard.

But, I I kept oil topped up, and changed it at 5k on straight mineral, and at 10k when switched to semi synth. And always treated with a modicum of respect.

I intend to run a log splitter off the engine now that the car is sensibly beyond economic repair. I reckon the driveshaft turns at about the right speed. Still got the diff to sort or lock up though.( It would be simpler to use the "G" Wagen with the mechanically locking diff.)

However the brother had a VW Golf with the coked up turbo vanes, he tipped in a can of cleaning gunk, (following the instructions supplied) and all was well.

He was told this was a weakness in that particular installation.

Apologies to the origional poster ias I can offer no useful advice in this instance, merely wanted to defend Garret/VW turbos.

Edited by dieseldogg on 12/12/2011 at 14:49

 

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