All - Boys in Blue, no idea these days!

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Tue 8 Nov 2011 16:51
All - Boys in Blue, no idea these days! - Berisford

So, here we have dozens of motors parked at night, without lights, along an unlit, national speed limit dual carriageway. So bad is the problem the boys in blue get the (trunk) road closed!

Fair enough, but why were no fixed penalty tickets issued? And why did the area have to suffer serious congestion for hours after the vehicles causing the problem had departed.

I'll suggest the answer to the first question is simply that the police no longer know anything about parking offences, they've seemingly washed their hands of such trivial things.

That could go some way to explain why the road was closed for so long the next day, it appears the road was closed (at the request of the Police) by the highways dept. and it looks as if the night shift didn't tell the day shift about it, resulting in unnecessary chaos for hours.

How much do we pay these people?

http://www.chad.co.uk/news/local/annesley_bypass_re_opens_after_police_closure_over_all_night_party_update_19_18_1_3944035

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Tue 8 Nov 2011 17:10
All - Boys in Blue, no idea these days! - jc2

Parking is no longer anything to do with police(now local council)-however police could do them for obstruction.

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Tue 8 Nov 2011 19:13
All - Boys in Blue, no idea these days! - Bromptonaut

What offences might have been committed that justified a fixed penalty? Yellow line enforcement is now done by the Council in most of England and in those areas the police no longer enforce parking. The issue here was more likley obstruction plus the need to deal with drug, alcohol, litter and other issues arising from what souns more like a 'rave' than a party.

And the issue is to get the cars and other obstructions moved. If the coppers had simply left a FPN under each and every wiper and gone back to the station there'd have been justified complaints.

Edited by Bromptonaut on 08/11/2011 at 19:15

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Tue 8 Nov 2011 22:44
All - Boys in Blue, no idea these days! - Berisford

My point is the police simply got the local authority to close the road and then walked away from it (the problem) and no-one in any position of power thought about it (the road closure) again until the following evening! Meanwhile chaos and congestion reigned in the area all day long!

My further point is unlit vehicles can now, it seems, be abandoned on a 70mph unlit road without any sanction. Parking controls on yellow lines may well be the domain of the local authorities but parking on an open country 70mph unlit road is surely still a Police matter?

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Wed 9 Nov 2011 06:47
All - Boys in Blue, no idea these days! - Dwight Van Driver

Two questions

Where does it say Plod not takinbg any follow up action?

If the road has been closed i.e denied access to the public then does it still remain a 'road' for the purposes of the road traffic act offences ??????????

dvd

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Wed 9 Nov 2011 07:53
All - Boys in Blue, no idea these days! - daveyjp

"What offences might have been committed that justified a fixed penalty?"

Parking on a road with a speed limit greater than 30mph without lights - FPN offence, but the police don't bother with it. Any cash from police FPNs goes to the Treasury, not to the Force so where is the incentive?

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Wed 9 Nov 2011 08:30
All - Boys in Blue, no idea these days! - Berisford

Two questions

Where does it say Plod not takinbg any follow up action?

If the road has been closed i.e denied access to the public then does it still remain a 'road' for the purposes of the road traffic act offences ??????????

dvd

1, I'm local to this incident, I know. Further, it's a snippet in a provincial local rag that doesn't really care about anything other than advertising revenue and probably written by a kid.

2, Could/might well be the case, however, the vehicles were there before the road was closed and does it count when just a few cones are used. Doesn't an official road closure need posting ahead of the closure?

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Wed 9 Nov 2011 12:18
All - Boys in Blue, no idea these days! - dieseldogg
I would have thought in the circumstances a breathyliser unit could have been well deployed in the close vicinity.
Quite out of order in my humble opinion.
Nick em!
PS
Yes I tink a road closure Order requires quite some forward notice.

Edited by dieseldogg on 09/11/2011 at 12:19

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