Nissan X-Trail Tekna - Wot no tyres? - uptodat

Original fit Toyo A20 Open Country M/S215/55 R18 95H are due for imminent replacement. The only available option seems to be a Continental summer tyre. Nissan Customer Service seemingly unable to help. How can a mainstream manufacturer leave customers stuffed like this? Nice car but off-road capability about to be lost. Thanks Nissan.

Nissan X-Trail Tekna - Wot no tyres? - ianhad2

It's just a light truck tyre, plenty others that size.

www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&source=hp&bi...=

Nissan X-Trail Tekna - Wot no tyres? - gordonbennet

Mytres are showing 4 possibilities, it is indeed a rare size.

Edited by gordonbennet on 06/08/2011 at 22:08

Nissan X-Trail Tekna - Wot no tyres? - Lygonos
camskill.co.uk/m61b0s2786p0/Car_Tyres_-_MPV_Tyres_...8

Edited by Lygonos on 06/08/2011 at 23:46

Nissan X-Trail Tekna - Wot no tyres? - gordonbennet

Of those 4 that Mytyres are showing, one is an Achilles winter tyre....i haven't a clue how good or not they are.

May not be ideal but far more likely to be of use off road than any of the alternatives currently available, at virtually half the price of the Continentals they just might be worth a punt. Tyretest.com have them on review.

The only other solution i can see for you is to source a used set of 17" or 16" wheels off another XTrail, will give you more options for tyres.

Nissan X-Trail Tekna - Wot no tyres? - Ethan Edwards

Falken ZE912 215/55/18 95H Car Tyres, 2155518 95H

All season ie m/s tyre. £106 a corner.

http://www.allnewtyres.co.uk/tyre-details.asp?id=894&215%2055%2018%20Falken%20ZE912%20%20NEW%20TYRE%202155518%2095H

Nissan X-Trail Tekna - Wot no tyres? - uptodat

Thanks. Falkens would be OK if they were in stock.

Nissan X-Trail Tekna - Wot no tyres? - Ethan Edwards

Yep you'll have to have someone order some for you. I have a T30 Xtrail and one of my pet peeves is people putting summer road tyres onto a good 4x4. Yes you may save a few quid but come winter snow and you'll regret it. I'm partial to Goodyear Wranglers myself but they don't come in your size.

Cheers,

E

Edited by Ethan Edwards on 08/08/2011 at 00:04

Nissan X-Trail Tekna - Wot no tyres? - uptodat

Yep you'll have to have someone order some for you. I have a T30 Xtrail and one of my pet peeves is people putting summer road tyres onto a good 4x4. Yes you may save a few quid but come winter snow and you'll regret it. I'm partial to Goodyear Wranglers myself but they don't come in your size.

Cheers,

E

I changed from a T30 and never imagined tyre availabilty would be an issue. I like the T31 despite the cocked up load area, and satnav I can't update. It consistently gives 38mpg under varied driving conditions but after dealings with NCS I'll never buy Nissan again.

Local tyre dealers say they can't even order eg Falkens at present and indicate the Japanese earthquake is to blame,

I blame Nissan for choosing a size many tyre manufacturers don't make.for UK market,

Nissan X-Trail Tekna - Wot no tyres? - uptodat

Of those 4 that Mytyres are showing, one is an Achilles winter tyre....i haven't a clue how good or not they are.

May not be ideal but far more likely to be of use off road than any of the alternatives currently available, at virtually half the price of the Continentals they just might be worth a punt. Tyretest.com have them on review.

The only other solution i can see for you is to source a used set of 17" or 16" wheels off another XTrail, will give you more options for tyres.

Thanks for looking and advising. Myself and others in the same boat have searched the web extensively. and contacted suppliers by phone. When it comes to it only the Continentals are readily available. To get an all season m/s like for like replacement appears impossible in this size so the suggestion about sourcing smaller rims is valid. But should it be necessary on a car less than 2 years old?! That is why I have such a dim view of Nissan and their customer service dept.

Nissan X-Trail Tekna - Wot no tyres? - Andy P

Why not go to 225/55 18" - there are more tyres in this size (it appears to be a specific 4x4 tyre) and the rolling radius is only 11mm different.

Nissan X-Trail Tekna - Wot no tyres? - TeeCee

Why not go to 225/55 18" - there are more tyres in this size (it appears to be a specific 4x4 tyre) and the rolling radius is only 11mm different.

The only problem I can see with that approach is that the OP's insurers will probably want their pound of flesh for the fitting of non-standard tyres.....

Nissan X-Trail Tekna - Wot no tyres? - uptodat

Excuse my ignorance. Apart from insurance issue, and presumably change in speedo reading etc, is it viable to fit the more common size? I have read of one other Xtrail Tekna owner having 225/55 18s on from new, and in another forum we assumed the manufacturer had changed the vehicle since our purchases. Seems something odd here. Why are Nissan silent on this?

Nissan X-Trail Tekna - Wot no tyres? - Andy P

Fitting a different size tyre size like this should make no difference to insurance - the change in rolling radius is within the 2.5% recommended by tyre manufacturers, and the change to the speedo readout will be within the error normally found in them anyway.

Edited by Andy P on 08/08/2011 at 10:45

Nissan X-Trail Tekna - Wot no tyres? - Ethan Edwards

It's an issue thats not confined to the XT. I also have a Note and that runs on 185/55/R16 now Nissan sell this vehicle all over Europe. Do you think I can find an all season or winter tyre for it? No - not with the same speed rating as the OEM ones . Yet they sell it in some countries where it can be compulsory to fit winter tyres. So what do European owners do? Put the car on bricks for the winter?

I'm lucky enough to have use of our XT when it's snowy but I'd still like to have a set of non summer tyres as a standby.

Nissan X-Trail Tekna - Wot no tyres? - madf

Having read of the metric /imperial tyre size (and runflat) problems of some cars .. and being a mean sjinflint, I always check tyre sizes and prices when I buy cars..

Anyone who does any research into running costs would do.. But hey, lots of people don't bother and are then surprised...

It's obvious to me to check.. but then peopel buycars well known for unreliability so wdik?

Nissan X-Trail Tekna - Wot no tyres? - Andy P

Camskill have winter tyres in 185/55R16 (Pirelli WInter 190), plus several more in the 195/55R16 fitting.

www.camskill.co.uk/m96b0s0p0/Winter_-_Snow_-_Cold_...h

This is useful for checking tyre fitment:

www.etyres.co.uk/tyre-size-calculator.htm

Nissan X-Trail Tekna - Wot no tyres? - Ethan Edwards

Yes but as I said...not the same speed rating as the oem tyres. Which is 'V' ....now does it REALLY need up to 149mph...no absolutely it doesn't, (it will only do 149mph falling off a cliff) but thats what Nissan specify.

I reckon H rating would be fine but do you want to fit non oem specified tyres? In the case of say a high speed blow out that could be held to be the reason your insurers don't pay.

Your suggestion was T rating which is just too slow for the car.

Edited by Ethan Edwards on 08/08/2011 at 14:15

Nissan X-Trail Tekna - Wot no tyres? - gordonbennet

To be fair to Nissan and all tyre suppliers 55% aspect ratio tyres are not likely to be used in off road situations, hence the lack of availability of M&S tyres in this size.

The chances of rim damage and lack of tyre flexibility would make them a liability.

Most 4x4 tyres designed for off road will be 65% and above, that way you get around 5 or 6" minimum of sidewall before getting anywhere near the rims.

Nissan X-Trail Tekna - Wot no tyres? - uptodat

I think that is what my favoured tyre dealer was explaining to me. He said there is no m;s tyre available in the UK fo 182 rims in 215/55. He suggests I get 16" wheels.

This begs the question why have Nissan put bling 19 wheels on what is meant to be a reasonable off-roader?

This seems scandalous to me. .

Nissan X-Trail Tekna - Wot no tyres? - unthrottled

Because cars with bling wheels fly off the dealers' floor whereas cars with correctly sized ones do not!

I think I have the solution. They should attach a very thin aluminium flange to a 16" wheel, so you get the bling look of a 19" wheel, but the performance of a 16". The flange would be detachable, so if it gets damaged, it can be replaced without scrapping the wheel-a halo shaped wheel trim in effect!

Edited by unthrottled on 08/08/2011 at 17:18

Nissan X-Trail Tekna - Wot no tyres? - uptodat

I absolutely do not want bling. I tried and rejected a CRV with low profile tyes because the ride was so poor. I specifically asked the Nissan salesman whether The X-Trail had proper wheels like my previous X-Trail and was assured it had. I didn't choose them as an option and assume they are standard fit. I can't understand why they come with an appropriate Toyo tyre which is not on sale.

Nissan X-Trail Tekna - Wot no tyres? - gordonbennet

Following on from an earlier suggestion.

have you checked Mytyres site for 225/55 x 18, there's some good rubber for sale in that size including Toyo's.

Might be worth a call to your insurance company first to see how they feel and if they are going to load the policy first.

I couldn't recommend the Yokohama GO51 from that list, found them very skittish in the wet, i haven't tried that particular Nokian, but other Nokians i have used have been good in every respect.

Edited by gordonbennet on 09/08/2011 at 14:13

Nissan X-Trail Tekna - Wot no tyres? - uptodat

Pored over Mytyres again. Even in 225/55 R18, there are only summer tyres or winter tyres. No all season m/s jobs to replace what I have on. I may go down this route though rather than the 16" wheel route. Thae latter would be expensive, have a big effect on handling, and be a more drastic mod insurance wise.

Just can't ubderstand that Toyo produce something appropriate for Nissan factories but not for the punters. It seems the X-Trail has lost any modest off-road ability .

Yeti next time.

Nissan X-Trail Tekna - Wot no tyres? - xtrailman

I don't want bling either, which is why i rejected the top of the range CRV, i wanted leather, satnav and rear view camera.

I was more than happy with 16" wheels, 17" are ok, but 18" or larger, forget it.

Nissan have lost the plot.

I had a Audi with low profile (225/45/17) tyres and pot holes were a nightmare.

Nissan X-Trail Tekna - Wot no tyres? - Ethan Edwards

Gordon I don't want to go off roading in my Note...just to be able to drive it to work in the snow with a bit less slippage. I'm after a winter compound tyre not a off roading experience.

I'll have to continue to borrow the wife's Xtrail instead.

Nissan X-Trail Tekna - Wot no tyres? - gordonbennet

I wasn't suggesting for you Ethan, though a well shod car can be fun, i was pointing our OP in the direction if he hadn't already had a poke nose....mind you plenty of winter tyres on offer there.

Like another poster i research things like tyres long before buying, too easy to come unstuck...no pun..;)

Very expensive sizes those for anything decent.

Nissan X-Trail Tekna - Wot no tyres? - Ethan Edwards

OK Gordon.....in fact if you think about it the whole point of having some winter rubber is to AVOID an off road experience.......

Nissan X-Trail Tekna - Wot no tyres? - oldtoffee

If I was you, I'd look to a set of 17" wheels and go 215/60/17 for a much wider choice at half decent prices. An online calculator shows 0.56% - a negligible difference - tell your insurance company this and you're doing it for additional safety etc - I did this last year and it made no difference (LV.) You'll save 2 tyre changes a year which is around £80 so you'll end up getting your money back on the wheels and keep your original alloys in better nick.

Achilles tyres look ok on price, performance in wet and snow not so clever, Falken are cheaper and score better. Nokian WR G2s are £20 more and miles better where it counts.

Nissan X-Trail Tekna - Wot no tyres? - DSxtrail

Hi

If you own a Nissan X-Trail Tekna with 215/55R18 tyres fitted and are having difficulties getting tyres or just want to know the current position with Nissan then contact me.

Its time to present a broad case to Nissan.

Email me at :- xtrailtekna@gmail.com

Please note it may take a couple of weeks to come back to you due to hols etc.

Regards

DS

Nissan X-Trail Tekna - Wot no tyres? - MikeBurton-2000

I know this thread is a little older now but it is still relevant. This may not be for everyone and I AM NO EXPERT, but why not consider changing your wheels next time you need tyres? If you really want those AT or MS tyres to tug your caravan out of boggy fields throughout the winter, drop the wheel size down to 16" in a style of your choice.

Nissan have seen fit to put 18" alloys on my 2014 plate 2.0dci which look great, but the tyre choice at 215x55 18" is almost as pitiful as the off road grip those tyres give. There is slightly more choice if you go to a 225 but still not much and almost all are standard road tyres.

Changing the wheel to a 16" will allow you to change to a much wider range of tyres with a much deeper side wall (Handy for the pot hole ridden streets of great Britain) and widen the availability including the AT and M&S ranges offered. E.G. Cooper Discoverer (£70 a corner), Bridgestone Dueller (£95 a corner) and BF Goodrich KO 2 (£96 a corner).

You may need to inform your insurer of the changes (you know what they are like) and you will of course experience more road noise from an AT tyre. You may find the handling changes a litttle depending upon your tyre choice but you open up a whole new world of tyre choices.

My personal wheel choice would be a 215x70x16 8J wide with 45 offset. This will allow the 215x70x16 tyres mentioned above to be fitted (with a choice of +50 others in the same size confuguration). I like the Cooper Discoverer AT3 100T (£68) tyre but they also do the M&S (£62) in the same size. The Dunlop Grandtrek AT3 is another good tyre (£68) and there are many quieter grip style tyres available. From under £50 a tyre if you are on a tighter budget I'm sure there will be a tyre to suit most needs. My choice (Discoverer AT3) will save me £70 per tyre (against the Continental Premium Contact 2 215x55xH18; the only tyre KwikFit list currently for my Reg Number) and with a nice set of 16" alloys costing £370ish I will save that cost and more over the time I intend to own the car, and (as long they're stored correctly) have a nice unmarked set of original alloys to put back on the car when I come to part with it.

What are your thoughts?

Nissan X-Trail Tekna - Wot no tyres? - gordonbennet

Good way to look at these things this Mike Burton, that method can apply to many vehicles not just the one in question.

I've not had to change wheels as such, but i have made slight variations in sizes on my previous Landcruiser, then the Hilux and the current Landcruiser too.

First one the size Toyota used on uk models had few alternatives and getting fewer as the size became obsolete, so reverted to the US same size of 31/10.50 x 15 of which there were dozens to choose from.

Hilux, Toyota fitted a weird size to UK Invincibles, so i simply upped it to the correct size as fitted to rest of world, vehicle much better behaved for it...had they done this properly first that knee jerk reaction with subsequent recall following the Elk test dodgy video would not have been necessary.

Current LC, again standard size few AT/MT options, the previous owner had no doubt already discovered this as the better size was already fitted, just raising the aspect from 70 to 75 does the job.

Edited by gordonbennet on 16/01/2016 at 09:23

Nissan X-Trail Tekna - Wot no tyres? - RT

The vast majority of 4wd vehicles sold in the UK don't go off tarmac - and bling sells - so they almost all get stupidly low profile tyres on stupidly large rims.

Changing tyre size, with or without a change of rim size, needs to be restricted to those combinations Type Approved by the car maker - insurers will get very obstructive otherwise.

Nissan X-Trail Tekna - Wot no tyres? - xtrailman

Just what is classed as low profile?I certainly don't think my 55 profile is, so where is the change over?

By the way my 55 tyres performed perfectly a year last boxing day in around 4" of snow, passing cars in ditches, and abandoned at the road side in some silly places. And on summer tyres. But then my car has around 7" of ground clearance.

Nissan X-Trail Tekna - Wot no tyres? - RT

Just what is classed as low profile?I certainly don't think my 55 profile is, so where is the change over?

By the way my 55 tyres performed perfectly a year last boxing day in around 4" of snow, passing cars in ditches, and abandoned at the road side in some silly places. And on summer tyres. But then my car has around 7" of ground clearance.

There are no fixed boundaries for the profile descriptions, particularly as the lowest profile gets even lower - at one time, 70 was low profile, with 60 as ultra-low - but now 50-55 is low profile with 35-45 as ultra-low.

Nissan X-Trail Tekna - Wot no tyres? - xtrailman

But i don't think my 55 are low profile, not with the ride they provide.

Nissan X-Trail Tekna - Wot no tyres? - Avant

I think 55 is about average for a medium car, as in 205/16/55. Why the tyre industry mixes up the measurements between Imperial and metric defies logic.

Nissan X-Trail Tekna - Wot no tyres? - gordonbennet

I remember when i worked in the tyre place and someone brought a Citroen DS tyre in (no a proper DS), we hadn't a clue what the second figure referred to, size being 165 x 400 as i recall, Michelin XAS...that was 45 years ago, how come i can remember that and not where i went yesterday.:-)

I'm quite happy with the mixture of metric and imperial sizes, how many here without googling would know what 31 x 10.50 x 15 tyre sizing means?

Nissan X-Trail Tekna - Wot no tyres? - RT

I think 55 is about average for a medium car, as in 205/16/55. Why the tyre industry mixes up the measurements between Imperial and metric defies logic.

It doesn't defy logic - although you may not agree with the logic.

Radial car tyre widths are expressed in metric to differentiate them from cross-ply tyres, very important during their changeover phase.

Wheel rim diameters are expressed in inches because they always have been - when Denovo runflats were introduced they used metric sizes, again to differentiate them, as the two tyre types needed different rim profiles.

The % profile is just a %, works in both metric and Imperial.

Edited by RT on 17/01/2016 at 05:26