Any - Ultra Low Profile Tyres - Roly93

I'm looking for a nearly new Mondeo at the moment and most of the suitable cars I am seeing seem to have 18" alloys and to add insult to injury this seems to be a selling point.

Given the state of our roads, the additional cost of these tyres and the rapidity of wear on lower profile tyres, why are the car manufacturers almost forcing these on us ?

Is it a conspiracy to sell more expensive tyres and more of them I wonder ?

Any - Ultra Low Profile Tyres - Ethan Edwards

They are forcing them onto us because they look 'cool' and that is supposedly what people want. If it were not so then cars (so fitted) would remain unsold. Plus they do improve cornering.

However I agree they ruin the ride comfort, are expensive and wear poorly. I don't have them by choice. I suggest you look at an SUV type vehicle instead (Kuga?) as I can't think of any, that have these fitted as standard.

There's another consideration. Big wide alloys (esp Ford OEM for some odd reason) on rough surfaces (ie UK roads) are EASILY damaged and knocked out of round. They cost an arm and three legs to replace plus invariably you need a new tyre. SUV alloys tend to be a bit chunkier and more robust. Writers opinion only.

Cheers,

Any - Ultra Low Profile Tyres - daveyjp

This is one aspect which puts me off volume manufacturers.

As soon as you start choosing a car with a few extra toys in the cabin they start giving you 18-19 inch wheels on 30/35 profile tyres which wear quickly, ruin the ride and cost a fortune to replace.

Any - Ultra Low Profile Tyres - primeradriver
Don't the 16" steel wheels from the MK3 Mondeo retrofit?

These can be picked up very cheaply -- just put the cartwheels back on when you're done with the car.
Any - Ultra Low Profile Tyres - RogEnfield

I've been looking around at newish estate cars and rejected quite a few, including a Mondeo and a Vectra as they have stupidly low tyres. I carry quite heavy loads sometimes and I just like to know that there is a decent amount of air between the car and the road, particularly over potholes.

Any - Ultra Low Profile Tyres - Ethan Edwards

SUV - no low profile tyres...long travel suspension. Eg Subaru Forrester etc

Any - Ultra Low Profile Tyres - SteveLee

It's ridiculous isn't it? Marketing men think we are all bling heads because that's what they are- I like the idea of pneumatic tyres and suspension - still the sheeple confuse having their spine smashed through their skull and over direct steering with "handling" - encouraged by the popular press.

A work colleague has spend £1000 this year alone on tyre and wheel damage to her hot hatch, I fly over speed humps and bumps, and bump up kerbs without a worry on my 16 inchers booted with cheap tyres (reinforced sidewall versions naturally) can't remember the last time I had a problem related to speed bumps - probably a slightly warped (inside edge) wheel on my XJR due to straddling 1 meter speed humps too fast.

Any - Ultra Low Profile Tyres - Sofa Spud

A lot of today's stylists would have grown up with Hotwheels toys when they were young, and now that's coming through in designs for real cars.

Oversized wheels and silly shaped headlights are the current styling fads, plus a more recent one of exaggerated sculpted wings that follow the curve of the wheelarch (e.g. Nissan Juke). But there have always been ugly styling fads - remember Coke-bottle sides, vinyl roofs, wrap-around windscreens, tail fins.....etc.

Edited by Sofa Spud on 13/04/2011 at 23:38

Any - Ultra Low Profile Tyres - SteveLee

Just realised I typed "meter" I've been AmericaniZed - I'm doomed!

Any - Ultra Low Profile Tyres - unthrottled

100 years ago, engineers worked very hard to figure out how to get air into the tyres to improve the ride quality. Now the marketing men are doing their very best to get the air out of tyres again. Still, marketeers are fickle and their fads seldom last. In couple of years, they'll have a brainstorming session and one of them will say "hey guys,I've got a great idea! Why don't we try putting air into tyres...?"

Any - Ultra Low Profile Tyres - ForumNeedsModerating

Unfortunately, the marketing people will make whatever the punter (or numpty in this case) wants. Presumably their focus groups & surveys still show that most of the inadequte company and/or 'executive' car buyers/keepers want their phallic symbols suitably wheeled/tyred for company car park rispek or for rear-view mirror machismo.

As with the OP, the only Mondeo I could find with sensible wheels/tyres was the Zetec grade - shame, because I like the other extras that come with the Titanium+ specs.

I think, as with speed calming measures, we pay for the numptiness of others & the lowest common denominator always 'wins'.

Edited by woodbines on 14/04/2011 at 09:45

Any - Ultra Low Profile Tyres - RT

Reminds me of someone who ordered a Vectra SRi instead of a Vectra Design, because it "looked sportier" and then complained about the hard, unforgiving ride and just wouldn't accept the suggestion they'd ordered the wrong model for their needs.

I always buy cars based on "functional specification" - but I realise I'm in a small minority.

Any - Ultra Low Profile Tyres - Ethan Edwards

Hey I really like Coke bottle sides the Mk3 cortina is a classic bit of 70's cool.

Ditto Vinyl roofs...I loved them.

As for yank tanks I love the 50's Plymouth Fury /Chevvy's etc which have wrap around windscreens, tail fins etc Two tone white and Candy apple red...the epitome of good taste...lovely.

Now if you don't mind disco Stu here has to pop on his flared jeans and boogey..oh yeah!

Any - Ultra Low Profile Tyres - turbo11

I wish the manufacturers would give you more of a choice on wheel/tyre combinations when choosing the spec. of a new car. Just because you may want a 6CD and Leather doesn't necessarily mean you want 18,19 or 20" wheels. It seem sthe higher the spec. the bigger the wheels. We don't all live on nice smooth roads ( are there any?). Now I live in the sticks and commute on poor rural roads, I wish my car had 15 or 16" rims and taller profile tyres rather than 17" and low profile tyres which crash over every pothole,sunken drain and split in the road.

Any - Ultra Low Profile Tyres - SteveLee

turbo11 - Amen! I like lots of kit but not the wheels that go with it.

Any - Ultra Low Profile Tyres - Roly93

I just looked at the price differential between 235/45/17 and 235/45/18 and it is huge.

£126 versus nearly £200 !!!

This could be one of the reasons these are being forced on us.

Any - Ultra Low Profile Tyres - MikeTorque

Some manufacturers give the buyer a choice of wheel/tyres size.

Take for example at the Vauxhall Astra, some models come with 17" alloys as standard. It is however possible to order 16" steel rims with higher profile and slightly narrower tyres which significantly improve both ride comfort whilst at the same time reducing road noise to almost zero and offer a small fuel saving as a result of the narrower tyre. The 16" tyres start from 205/60/16 and go to 215/60/16, the Astra owners manual contains all the details as does the brochure, so it's only a matter of taking a closer look at these documents prior to making the final decision to purchase.

In addition if a vehicle comes supplies with low profile alloys rims they can be replaced with smaller alloy or steel rims, then a higher profile tyre can then be fitted thus improving comfort etc. as described above.

Much depends on what a particular vehicle manufacturer allows. They will have data on suitable rims/tyres for any given car and a call to their customer services or their garage servicing department can provide useful intel.

Any - Ultra Low Profile Tyres - unthrottled
A higher profile tyre mated to a steel rim is much less susceptible to being 'curbed' (everyone parks by ear occasionally!). Those sporty looking 'alloy' wheels don't look nearly so snazzy when festooned with scratches and gouges.

Steel wheels are purposely designed to look cheap and nasty-especially when adorned with plastic 'trims'. This is a marketing con. Steel is itself an 'alloy' and a very good one!
Any - Ultra Low Profile Tyres - ForumNeedsModerating

"..parks by ear..."

Excellent expression!

Any - Ultra Low Profile Tyres - captain chaos

"..parks by ear..."

How about these then? http://tinyurl.com/3dhrsce :)

Any - Ultra Low Profile Tyres - Vitesse6

Chap who lived down our street had something like that on his Ford Anglia - looked ridiculous too!

Any - Ultra Low Profile Tyres - captain chaos

Aye, they're meant for huge American barges. Putting them on a Ford Anglia is a bit like fitting parking sensors to a motorbike.

Any - Ultra Low Profile Tyres - bbc123

My car runs on 15" alloy wheels. They seem to be a bit of a rarity these days, and they don't look as good on the car as the 16" or 17" rims would. But the compliancy the extra rubber gives is really handy on the pretty awful road surfaces I have to drive on. On dual carriageways tyre roar isn't an issue, and they performed much better in the snow this winter than an identical car with the low-profile tyres and bigger wheels. Win win!

Edited by robjamac on 22/04/2011 at 11:39