I have a Berlingo. Vredesteins for me. Better tyres, and cheaper, than Michelin. How you drive will affect fuel consumption rather than choice of rubber, in my opinion.

If you don't want to spend a lot, then if they are available in your tyre size then I would recommend Uniroyal RainExpert tyres. Fitted them to my wifes Mazda 3.( Event tyres-mobile fitters, very good. HJ recommends them) Quiet, drive nicely, very good in the wet, and were excellent in the snow. We live in a rural area on un-gritted and ploughed roads. Not once did she get stuck. Twice I had to leave my car at home and use hers to get to work. If they were available in my car tyre size (they're not) I would fit them without hesitation.

Different story altogether SFD. You've gone from a tyre that is known to be pretty poor (the P6000, regarded by many as a "ditchfinder"), which was well-worn (stopping distances in the wet are significantly longer with 1.6mm tyres than ones with 3mm or more), to a good tyre with full tread. Of course there is going to be an improvement.

I have P6000s on one of my cars and they're not a good tyre -- the Admirals that make up the other pair on the same car are far better, and cost half as much.

Michelins generally are good tyres, but I found the Energy Saver to be no better than a budget tyre for grip -- and I didn't see any improvement in MPG either. They last well, but then so does a Nankang NS2 at half the price).

The recommendation of the Uniroyal RainExpert is a good one.

Edited by primeradriver on 31/03/2011 at 15:15

Many thanks for the replies folks, much appreciated. I have ordered a set of the Uniroyal rain expert, as they are available in my size, and they inspire me with confidence safetywise. will let you know how I get on with them...cheers

CB

Vredesteins are an up and coming brand provnig to have brilliant performance in all weather conditions and we are finding them to become very popular amongst our customers. They are a lot cheaper then Michelin as well in pretty much every size

I am 64 and you could buy them when I was a lad.

I have been running some cheap "Runway" tyres on my CLC they are excellent as far as wear goes but the road noise is something else so I have put some Dunlop winter tyres on a few weeks early and they are totaly noiseless,they are now compulsory here in Germany.

Edited by Collos25 on 01/09/2011 at 15:46

The latest Energy Savers seem to have sorted out the compromise between low rolling resistance and comfort/performance. I had them on my previous Passat and they replaced part worn Dunlop Sports which gave me one very scary moment in the wet. Michelins were much much better in every single way, quieter, more comfortable (M4 west between J5 and J6 and speed humps as the tests?) better wet and dry grip. Only had them on for 10,000 miles before I sold the car but they hadn't worn more than 1 or 1.5mm if that. Can't say they were notably more fuel efficient than the Dunlops as I never kept the Dunlops long enough to measure. I bought the Michelins assuming from test data that they'd be mpg efficient, wear well and offer good wet and dry performance. 25% off for 4 at ATS made them competitive with mid market offerings.

I've had Vredesteins summer and all seasons in the past and the only negative over the Michelins would be noise and comfort.

Why would you want them to wear out? Id want them to last forever if i could.

With regards to vredestein I know they've been around years but what I mean is they are becoming more and more popular and making a bigger name for themselves and pushing on their promotions more than they used to