Looks like ive been pulled in.... - Carmad 10000
I have submitted...

i think im going to get a mini from a dealer....

the TLC pack has won me over as you get 5 years servicing for £100....very good price.


The thing is, do dealers offer any discounts at all? -i.e. £100-200? or are they all List price?
Looks like ive been pulled in.... - iwantascooby
My wife went to buy one in the last fortnight - the dealer seemed to think that being able to only pay list price was a bargain in itself - he wittered on about used cars costing more than new etc.

I think supply is very limited, and I havent seen any new ones in non franchised dealers, even abroad.

Good luck
Looks like ive been pulled in.... - Carmad 10000
Yea, i guess thats true but £11600 is still a lot of money.

I reckon the cooper is the best value considering all the kit on it and also the engine is more powerful.

I would be looking to get the TLC pack for it at £100 as its the main reason for purchasing it in the UK.

Do you know of any good sites where UK cars are supplied at a discount?

Looks like ive been pulled in.... - iwantascooby
Not for Minis I'm afraid. I usually check the large supermarket sites (Motorpoint etc.) but they only deal in a limited range, although if you find what your looking for you can save a packet. I bought a Celica two years ago at four grand under list.

Maybe worth investing in Top Gear magazine which has an extensive classified section dealing in import of UK spec cars - it shouldnt add to your lead time becasue the waiting list for the Cooper is huge I think.

Adverts in the London papers have used Coopers at £20000, so if you get one you have done well!
Looks like ive been pulled in.... - DavidHM
No chance of a discount that I can find, and I can usually dig *something* out.

Oh and I know there is a waiting list in the UK, but that doesn't mean it's going to be the same in Europe. If anything, BMW is less likely to divert RHD production from the more profitable UK.

Plus you have the convenience, your dealer is going to be nice to you, you save a lot of money with TLC, and you'll have a fighting chance of selling the car for decent money. In this case, don't import.
Looks like ive been pulled in.... - Carmad 10000
Have decided not to import for sure now. However i dont know which car to get. Its between:

Mini One - 15inch alloys, Chrome pack, TLC Pack, Salt Pack

or

Mini Cooper with TLC Pack

I am a new driver and am going to be sharing the car with my dad so am more enclined to go for a cooper as insurance as a named driver is only £130 more. Also performance is better and it looks good with the white roof.

Looks like ive been pulled in.... - oRb
Given the choice, I'd go with the One with extras rather than the basic Cooper.

The One is a perfectly adequate performer - and if performance is that important to you, you could always have it chipped and make it more powerful than a Cooper (invalidates the warranty if BMW notice it tho').

Another factor is the waiting time, you'll get a One sooner.

You could save some money (or use the money to get something else) by foregoing the alloys and getting them second-hand. I'm getting a set from a Cooper owner who is upgrading his wheels at what I think is a very reasonable price.

Rob
Looks like ive been pulled in.... - Mike H
Given the choice, I'd go with the One with extras rather
than the basic Cooper.


Yes, but it is generally reckoned that, when selling a used car, you have effectively lost the value of the extras...not sure if this holds true with such a sought-after car though. This would mean the basic Cooper is better value overall.
Looks like ive been pulled in.... - Dynamic Dave
Mini One - 15inch alloys, Chrome pack, TLC Pack, Salt Pack


Excuse me for asking, but what is a TLC & salt pack?
Looks like ive been pulled in.... - Blue {P}
Yeah, I know about TLC but what is Salt pack?

DD - The TLC is their 5 years servicing for £99 package. It means that just about every car in the country has a full BMW service history for the first few years...

Blue
Looks like ive been pulled in.... - Carmad 10000
salt pack gives the silver interior, cooper rev counter, interior lights, fog lights, and a few other bits and bobs - basically it is something like £330 but it is regarded as one of the 'essential' items for the one - i think it makes quite a difference to the car as well
Looks like ive been pulled in.... - DavidHM
My instinct is, get a Cooper, but neither is a bad choice.

Especially as the diesels come out, the One will be the staid and sensible one, driven around London by people like Perpetua from Bridget Jones' Diary. Plus, it looks much worse in one colour and with steel wheels.

The Cooper is definitely the thrusting, sexy choice and the difference in insurance is, as you say, negligable, while the performance is way better.
Looks like ive been pulled in.... - Dave_TD
There are three option packs for the Mini, in ascending order these are Salt, Pepper and Chilli. Each adds more extras to the basic car.

Sniffpetrol.com (good website, mind the swearing though) had a little more to say though...

NEW RETRO OPTION PACKS FOR MINI
Buoyed by the success of the new Mini, BMW is to release new option packs to capitalise on the car's retro design. The new packs will compliment the existing Salt, Chili and Pepper trims, but are designed to capture the appeal of the old Mini. First up, the Soy Sauce package includes a unique engine management programme which will allow the car to leak oil all over your drive. State-of-the-art multiplex wiring has also allowed engineers to create deliberate 'bugs' in the car's electrics, causing phantom operation of the lights, wipers and de-misting fan whilst permitting them to 'pack up' when a sensor detects bad weather. A second complimentary pack, dubbed Balsamic Vinegar, comes with a feature linked to the rain sensing wipers which allows water to leak into the car when it rains. Thanks to lightweight valve technology, the water leak can be switched between ten different locations, making it utterly impossible to trace. Ever. Balsamic Vinegar equipped cars will also come with small pieces of loose metal inside randomly chosen body cavities, creating a series of irritating and ever lasting rattles which nothing short of dismantling the entire car will cure.
Continuing the old-skool theme, dealers will now offer a new deal to compliment the revolutionary TLC servicing scheme. For an extra £100 customers can chose the PITA option which will attempt to replicate the elusive 1970s BL dealer experience. Your car's service will be done in a really half baked way and your Mini will be returned scratched, dirty and smelling of spaniels. Some lucky customers may even find that their car has been lent to a 17-year-old apprentice who has had sex in the back seat and then crashed it into some sort of tree.
Beep beep! - Citroënian {P}
Carmad,

One with options or Cooper? Not an easy decision to make; We went the Cooper route (and Chilli), but neither is a bad car.

The main differences I think I highlighted in an earlier thread, but if you want a contrasting roof, Cooper is the choice (not convinced about painting a roof on a One afterwards), and the Sports Suspension. You could pay the extra £££ on a One and add it, but it does make quite a difference to the handling.

Rob mentions getting a One and then the alloys afterwards - I don't think £250 is unreasonable at purchase. There's a good few people upgrading their Daytona 5 star 16" to 17" so it wouldn't be too difficult to get a set of the bigger wheels, but I think the suspension is set up specifically for the wheels the car is supplied with. I'd just sort it out at purchase and avoid the hassles.

Sorry Rob, but can't see that the One can be tuned to out-perform a Cooper - it's got the same engine so surely you could put an equivalent chip into the Cooper and get the same output from both?

Just read DaveHMs post - LOL - he's right. You know yourself that the Cooper is the way to go, just get ordering!

And if you're getting the Cooper, think hard about whether you need the Salt pack - you've already got the rev counter, floor lights and chrome - do you really need the seat nets and map reading lights? £90 for some fogs would be enough I reckon and I think you can specify the silver interior as standard now. Certainly Alloy patina (a la Cooper S) is only £50. And the pack is £280 on the One, £330 on the cooper.

Dropping the Salt but getting the fogs would leave enough to get Sports Seats or a CD changer...

Either way, get it ordered soon so that you can't keep adding to the options, endlessly...we've all been there!

Lee.
Beep beep! - Carmad 10000
just been on an excellent site called mini2.com

They all think i should get a One....i really like the one and would be happy with either but i have a feeling my dad wants me to get the cooper..and to be totally honest, i would prefer a cooper...but reckon the white looks a bit 'camp' perhaps? (NOTE:- on top gear the list of the top 10 gay cars from that website the Mini Cooper was included! lol - the idea of getting is to pull the girls, not the blokes! :-D

I think i will probably decide to go for the One then we will get to the dealer and we will order a completely different car lol

Same thing happened when i brought a scooter...went to look for a 'basic' A to B sort and ended up getting a top of the range one and blowing all my money on it lol

Beep beep! - Dwight Van Driver
C.10000

Camp for a mini? Take the test

www.hekkuli.org/~hekkuli/flash/gaytest.swf

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Beep beep! - oRb
Lee said: Sorry Rob, but can't see that the One can be tuned to out-perform a Cooper - it's got the same engine so surely you could put an equivalent chip into the Cooper and get the same output from both?


Which is right. My point is, tho', that if cost saving and performance are critical, for £435 you can get an extra 30bhp out of a One to take it to 120bhp (compared to the 115bhp of an unchipped Cooper). A Cooper costs £1300 more than a One.

Personally, I wouldn't have my One chipped. There's the issue of invalidating the warranty and also I expect that the insurance companies load the premium if it's done. And anyway, I'm happy enough with the performance.

Carmad - you'll be happy whichever you get.

Rob
Beep beep! - J Bonington Jagworth
"..insurance companies load the premium if it's done"

And the insurance will be invalid if you don't tell them, with all the usual consequences if you have a prang.

Just in case anyone was thinking of it...
Beep beep! - Citroënian {P}
Rob wrote:
Which is right. My point is, tho', that if cost saving and performance are critical, for £435 you can get an extra 30bhp out of a One to take it to 120bhp (compared to the 115bhp of an unchipped Cooper). A Cooper costs £1300 more than a One.
{snip}
you'll be happy whichever you get.


Oh dear. In the excitement of getting a Cooper I'd forgotten that it's £1300 more. Oops! I recall that it was a close thing with adding sport suspension/seats and stuff. I think we just liked the idea of having the a "Cooper".

Rob is of course right, you'll be happy with either, just watch those options!

Lee.
(PS - told you mini2 was good!)


Beep beep! - DavidHM
Carmad - if a Cooper with a white roof is a bit camp, how about silver with a black roof?