Volvo V70 - CO Emissions MOT Fail - Help Please - FunkyFox

Hi there, any help very much appreciated.

Volvo V70 2.4 (140bhp) 2000 with 165k failed the MOT today on the fast idel CO emisions test. Recorded 0.79% first time and 0.63% second time. Natural Idle passed at 0.32%.

HC was 90ppm and 24ppm first and second time respectively and lambada was a pass at 0.97.

Everything else was perfect.

Have used same garage for many years and they obvioulsy cannot say what it is or whats wrong without the clock and cost starting ticking. Car is due a service but has FSH. Orange engine light is on a the minute but seems to have come on and off at will for the past 2 years without event. Car returns the same economy as always and idles and runs perfectly. Completed 1000 fault free miles in last week alone.

Any guidance or pointers or advice very much apreciated as cannot afford to throw money after something that may be uneconomical to repair but can't afford to replace it either!

Thanks in advance.

Volvo V70 - CO Emissions MOT Fail - Help Please - Victorbox

A proper service with new plugs and filters etc - even just an oil and filter change can dramatically reduce the MOT emission levels so that would be a good start. The orange management light indicates something is outside the correct parameters so can't be ignored. Make sure the car is good and hot with a long low gear thrash immediately before the re-test.

Volvo V70 - CO Emissions MOT Fail - Help Please - FunkyFox

Thanks for the advice.

I am really suprised that a service could make that much difference to the emissions.

However, as I am sure you appreciate, I wanted to see if it was an economical repair before forking out on a service! Your advice has skewed that logic somewhat now?

Given the readings anyone have any ideas how serious or what kind of problem it may be?

Thanks, FF

Volvo V70 - CO Emissions MOT Fail - Help Please - Collos25

The above advice is spot on,the vehicle is getting on regards mileage so you need everything to be ok including the management light.Other problems are quite common on volvo v70 are noted in HJ car by car report especially the carb valve causing all sorts of problems and a cost of £700 "ouch" the exhaust and cat cause problems as do worn injectors another common v70 problem.

Volvo V70 - CO Emissions MOT Fail - Help Please - tdc

As you have already mentioned that your Volvo runs very well, give the following a try,it`s relatively inexpensive and may get you through...

1)Fit a new air filter(a local car accessories shop should stock one)

2)Add the very best injection cleaner to your fuel tank and give car a good blast around the block.A very helpful local MOT station(they still exist) did this for a mate of mine a fortnight ago after initial fail readings and his car sailed through.

Worth a try before letting the garage loose on your wallet.

NB.Confessions of an ex-MOT tester:-In the days when we were able to MOT up to 30 cars in a normal working day(yes 30)before being computer-tied to the powers that be,we still had time to do what fuel system adjustment we could to get a pass for the customer.We offered free re-tests if resubmitted within a fortnight so it was a win/win situation for both parties if we got the emission's within ministry limits.

Volvo V70 - CO Emissions MOT Fail - Help Please - Railroad.

I would guess the the MIL lamp is on because the ECU is registering that the system is generally running too rich or too lean, or is indicating an oxygen sensor or catalyst fault. Unfortunately these type of problems are not always easy to diagnose, but it would help if you could get it hooked up to a scantool. If your car was registered after 1 January 2001 it will be EOBD compliant and so any generic scanner should work. If it were me I would be looking at live data after I'd read the fault codes to see what's been stored, and in particular looking at 'Short Term Fuel Trim' and 'Long Term Fuel Trim' which ideally should both read 0%. If they move up or down it means that the engine is running rich or lean and that the ECU is compensating by either adding or removing fuel by the percentage shown. That I'm afraid is the easy part. It is more difficult to establish why the engine isn't running as it should be. Possible causes include: Faulty oxygen sensor (either pre or post cat), faulty catalyst, faulty MAF sensor, air leak on inlet manifold, blocked air filter, blocked or faulty fuel injector/s, incorrect valve clearances, loss of compression or low fuel pressure.

Also I think there is a lot of mileage in the above advice. Buy some good fuel additive and thrash it up the road immediately before the retest.....

Edited by Railroad. on 02/10/2010 at 08:49

Volvo V70 - CO Emissions MOT Fail - Help Please - FunkyFox

Thanks for all of your replies.

I'll try the injection cleaner (any recommendations) and air filter suggestions and see if that enough to get it through.

BTW, I 'd notice this morning that it idles at 900rpm, is that a little fast?

Thanks again, FF

Volvo V70 - CO Emissions MOT Fail - Help Please - tdc

Try Forte specialist injection cleaner c£14 for 400ml;if it does the trick for my local MOT station I`m sure it`s good enough for the rest of us :)

Volvo V70 - CO Emissions MOT Fail - Help Please - Collos25

To high a tickover and MIL on is a sure sign the ETM is failing ,I don't know what they put in Fortes trade only cleaner but it certainly does the job certainly give you a hangover if you drank it..

Volvo V70 - CO Emissions MOT Fail - Help Please - tdc

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Volvo V70 - CO Emissions MOT Fail - Help Please - Avant

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Volvo V70 - CO Emissions MOT Fail - Help Please - garage-express

It sounds like the cat has failed as that controls the amount of carbon monoxide emitted from the exhaust if it was anything else like lambda sensor or blocked air filter you would have failed on lambda reading and Hydracarbons.

Edited by garage-express on 06/10/2010 at 17:10

Volvo V70 - CO Emissions MOT Fail - Help Please - mastertechGeoff

Hydrocarbons ppm (parts per million) which is unburnt fuel is low, that indicates that there is no misfire and the engine is probably running fine, lambda readings ok indicates the fuel injection and metering is ok, cruise rpm showing high readings indicates that the catalyst is not doing it's job, whilst replacing the air filter is a good idea and fuel cleaner, take it for a good hard drive and get the cat really hot may also help especially if it's doing slow work around town but if that does not bring the levels down you will probably need to replace the catalyst, obviously get it tested beforehand.

Volvo V70 - CO Emissions MOT Fail - Help Please - FunkyFox

A big thank you for all your input and advice. Very helpful.

As it happens, a bout of 'man flu' meant I never got to do the filter and injection cleaner. I took it in on Monday and they slapped it on the computer, it showed the lambda had failed and when tested it was doing nothing!

£200 for a new one (there isn't a Bosch replacement for this model - so had to get the original part from Volvo!) and it sailed through the test with hardly a breath of CO.

Left it in for a full service and fingers crossed will have another 12 months super comfy motoring, might even take it up to 200k!

Thanks again, I'll be running the injection cleaner any way as it sounds like a good idea.

FF.

Volvo V70 - CO Emissions MOT Fail - Help Please - tdc

Excellent,a happy ending!

Hope you get some good mileage out of her to offset the repair cost...... peanuts compared to having to replace your vehicle :)