I asked because a lot of them don't say - in fact a couple of local main dealers' ads say in the small print "price includes labour and VAT" but don't mention consumables.

To my suspicious mind that suggests oil and filters aren't included. Guess I'll have to phone around.

You are right bigtee be carefull out there they should say mot no service just a check.Like Bill Hicks american comedian now deceased once said marketing what a wasted live live is a roller coaster.:)

I have never belived in fixed price servicing, mainly due to the fact that a service is being carried out to a price & not to what the car needs!

How can you carry out fixed price on one car that may do 1000 miles a year & another that does 30000 in a year !

You find if it sounds to good it is not.Unless family owns a garage.I have never dealt with a garage who would change a cambelt brake fluid change removal of brake pads or shoes coolant etc.Without having a talk what was needed.If you build up a certain trust with a garage they will tell you what needs to be done.These packages take them with a pinch of salt .There are a lot of genuine garages out there but there are always cowboys who try it on.

Same here better overservice or i used to find someone who had a better knowledge than me to help me out,I used to change the oil filters adjusted the tappets replaced brake shoes on my old vw beetles myself.Touch wood i have never broke down anywhere but i suppose that was luck.I have found over the years if you look after anything mechanical it looks after you.A lot of people hope for the best or cant be bothered to learn anything about their car or show interest',I try to explain this to my daugther clever girl mental health nurse ,We all have our problem car i remember when i had the hillman imp nice little car,but that engine.Oh dear i go on a bit must be old age.:) Hope you get sorted primeradriver.