Car Insurance Increases - budu
Just got my renewal quote. Up 18.86%. I rang to ask why and was told, no reason except that rates had increased...

Is 18.64% reasonable?
Car Insurance Increases - Mark (RLBS)
There are many reasons why it may or may not be. The most likely reason is an insurer rebalancing its portfolio.

The *only* way to know whether or not it is reasonable for you is to get quotes from other insurers.
Car Insurance Increases - mandy june
Did you know that if your car was recalled it may affect your insurance indirectly? They can't legally raise your insurance because your car was part of a huge recall but in the future, your insurance may go up slowly because your car is more of a liability. Kinda crazy. This is where I got that from: www.goinsurancerates.com/auto-insurance/how-vehicl.../
Car Insurance Increases - Armstrong Sid
Replying to a thread which is almost 8 years old must be something of a record on any forum
Car Insurance Increases - LucyBC

Timely revisit though:

This went out on Tuesday:

Record rise in car insurance costs

Car insurance premiums rose by a record amount in the second three months of 2010.

The AA British Insurance Premium Index showed that premiums for third party, fire and theft climbed by 15.9%, and annual comprehensive car cover averaged more than £700 - that represents an 11.5% increase in only three months.

The index, which records the fluctuation of premiums for 2,800 car insurance customers across the UK, cites inflation and increasing fraud as the primary reasons behind the increase.

The three months to 30 June saw premiums rise more than 11%, the biggest increase recorded by the study since it began 16 years ago. The average for policies sold through price comparison sites increased by 12.7%.

The rise in premiums for people looking on price comparison sites was a real blow to those looking to save cash.

"For those shopping on comparison sites, average premiums have climbed by an eye-watering 32.8% or £193 in just nine months," said Edmund King, AA president.

"Even those taking the cheapest prices have typically seen them rise by £98."

Why the increase?

Industry experts state that insurance premiums have been on an upward spiral for some time.

"For years, insurers have been running an unsustainable business," said Ian Crowder, from the AA. "The cost of claims has exceeded premiums by 22%, so for every £100 claimed, insurers were paying £122."

The cost of fraud is another reason for the sharp increase. Despite the UK's falling crime levels, insurance fraud is increasing. A number of people have lied on insurance applications about rates, occupation and claim history among other things.

It is easy to be economical with the truth when buying insurance with online applications, making it easy to manipulate information such as ignoring past claims or convictions, to get the cheapest price.

More serious fraud has also had an impact. Staged accidents in which people have been injured have led to a rise in claims over the past year. Although damage to the cars may not always be covered, the insurance companies have had to meet the cost of third-party coverage.

The cost of meeting accident damage is yet another underlying reason for the increase. Although the AA's report suggests fatal accidents on roads have decreased, accidents and the cost of repairing cars remain high.

This is because, while modern cars are designed to protect the occupant, increased complexity and technology means the cost of repairing these cars can be quite high, Crowder points out.

Who is most affected?
The sharpest rise was found in third party, fire and theft coverage which will hit young drivers the hardest as they typically buy older and cheaper cars and choose this kind of insurance.

Because third party insurance is often the cheapest cover, it's a good option for those on a tight budget, such as young drivers. It also works if you drive a low-value vehicle as the cost of repair or replacing it will likely be less.

Third party, fire and theft insurance premiums increased by 15.8% to an average of £1,224.99, the AA found. For people shopping around, the price was lower, but still considerable. The AA's Shoparound index for third party, fire and theft insurance rose 15.9% to £963.79 on average.

People using comparison sites to shop around could have saved more, but still had to stomach a rise in prices. Third party, fire and theft insurance rose 17.1% to £700.21 on average for people using comparison sites.

People taking out comprehensive car insurance saw less steep rises. The average comprehensive car insurance policy rose 12.1% to £980.05 on average. People shopping around saw rises of 11.5% to £703.79, while those shopping around and using comparison sites paid £536.13 on average - a rise of 12.7% compared with three months ago.

Car Insurance Increases - Berisford

Two points come to mind here;

1, If the fire brigade weren't so keen on playing with their toys and cutting the tops off motors, losses would be reduced. Why is it these days with all the modern safety equipment built into motors every minor shunt results chaos and great expense?

Is it written somewhere that if you're involved in a shunt you should stay in your vehicle, wait for the emergency services and feign whiplash?

2, Fraud, why does the insurance industry not do something / more about it?

Here 'up-north' it's a regular pastime / income stream for some community members. The bus companies have spent a fortune on CCTV fitted to the outside of their vehicles to try combat the problem of single driver minor shunts turning into multiple occupancy multi whiplash / personal injury / total write-off claims.

Car Insurance Increases - turbo11

, "If the fire brigade weren't so keen on playing with their toys and cutting the tops off motors, losses would be reduced. Why is it these days with all the modern safety equipment built into motors every minor shunt results chaos and great expense?

Is it written somewhere that if you're involved in a shunt you should stay in your vehicle, wait for the emergency services and feign whiplash? "

My best mate is a paramedic. He often attends fairly minor RTA's. Quite often crash victims who are suffering"whip lash injuries" will suddenly be miraculously cured when he explains that the fire brigade are going to cut the roof off the drivers pride and joy.

Car Insurance Increases - Paul Mykatz-Tinks
Mine's gone up 4.3% today
Car Insurance Increases - The Watcher
Seems a big increase. I take it you told them you'd be shopping around unless they reduced it?
Car Insurance Increases - volvoman
My renewal came in April but was only about £10 more than last year :-)

Are they trying it on 'cos you've been with them for a few years ?

Get some more quotes and go back to your company with the lowest one and see what they can offer.
Car Insurance Increases - madf
Insurance companies are putting all rates up or trying to. Because the stock market (where they invested premiums hoping to make profits ) has been falling, they have to rely on preiums covering costs of claims. They did not.

Hence the rise.

(and yes I'm buying certain insurance stocks:-)

madf
Car Insurance Increases - Chris M
Insurance is due on the wife's car later this month. It's gone down by £7 to £190. It's a group 5 car, Comprehensive, Protected NCB.

I work for the insurance company so can have a look on the system to see how the premium is calculated. The basic premium has risen from £1,500 to £1,600 but, the various discounts/loadings (of which there are 8!) have reduced the final figure.

Chris M
Car Insurance Increases - hca
My insurance is due for renewal next week and I am currently with one of the large well known 'direct' insurance companies.

Yesterday I got the details through the post and they want £496 (up from £440 last year). I have been with this same company for 4 years so I suspected that they might be ripping me off a bit now. To test this theory out, I entered my details back into their own website and it returned a quote of £380 for exactly the same policy.

I have heard that insurance companies offer special discounts to get new customers. However, I think this means the loyal customers who have been using the same companies for years are being conned. Surely, they should offer the most competitive price for everybody (both new and existing customers).

HCA
Car Insurance Increases - madf
"Surely, they should offer the most competitive price for everybody (both new and existing customers)."

Hmm
I was always taught that you should in business endeavour to retain your existing customer base by treating them fairly.. as new customers involved a lot of expense in marketing etc.

Insurance companies work in different ways. Their logic is to impose large increases on existing customers and offer cheaper deals to attract new ones! Then they complain that they cannot make money on basic insurance underwriting!

This only works if your view of most customers is that they are fools who won't leave you becuase of laziness/inertia. It is true for about 50% of customers. (I have no statistics but the churn rate of insurance customers must be large.)


Sure the business is competitive for those who are average risks and who can move. For bad risks it can be still competitive but for very bad risks (drink convictions etc) the market quite rightly imo charges large premiums.

Insurance companies think loyal customers are fools. So always shop around. I find I change all insurers (house/car) about every 3 years purely on that basis..as a result my car insurance costs (with max no claims) have been static for 3 years and home insurance has fallen.

Loyalty to insurers is rewarded by being fleeced. Which insurers offer loayalty bonuses? hmm..none I can think of. Caveat emptor..





madf
Car Insurance Increases - Chris M
Don't single out insurance companies. All businesses are out to make money, it's about marketing. Insurance like most other businesses in this country operate in a competative market and we all have the freedom to shop around. Some of us exercise that freedom, some don't. Those that can't be bothered, shouldn't complain.

Credit Card companies offer interest free periods to new customers. Mortgage lenders offer discounts to new borrowers. AA/RAC offer cut price deals to get new customers. AOL gives a free 120 hours internet access in your first month. And so on...

Chris M
Car Insurance Increases - Dwight Van Driver
As it is mentioned above been with mine for years and no desire to change to a Company I know nothing about.

My ploy is on receipt of renewal premium to write back pointing out my loyalty and that I would prefer to stay with them and also cheaper quotes elsewhere.

The outcome is inevitable - a reduced Premium.

Even works on Home Insurance.

DVD
Car Insurance Increases - Andy P

I managed to shave nearly £200 of mine at the beginning of this year by changing.

Car Insurance Increases - Falkirk Bairn

Car renewal in this week, 5% up to £195 for a Group 12 car (1 to 20 scale).

Tried the comparison sites and they could save £15-£20 with unknown insurer and bigger excess. Better the devil you know (or think you know). Did not work with house policy - saved £120 by transferring to another company in the same group last month.

Car Insurance Increases - Pondlife

I don't understand how "lying on application forms" increases the insurance company's losses. I thought lying on the application form means that the insurance company still takes the premium, but would not pay out in the event of a claim. If that's true, lying applicants would seem to be a good thing for them.

Car Insurance Increases - LucyBC

I suspect they are talking about cases when they do pay out - most notably due to "fronting" - where the named driver of the car is not the "main" driver of the car but is used because they present a lower risk (usually it is mum or dad).

Car Insurance Increases - v8man

It doesn't help that cars arewritten off for very minor damage. Also, when airbags go off the cost of replacing them and the interior trim is often far more than the exterior damage.

My Wife had a minor shunt a year ago in her 54 reg Astra. The bonnet had a small ripple, broken headlight and dented wing. No damage to engine or radiator etc. but the airbags ment the complete replacement of the dash plus the airbags at £600 each!

Result, write off.

Car Insurance Increases - skittles

I guessing car hire charges must cost the insurance industry a fortune

When I was involved in a very minor accidant - minor sc***e to the bumper, slight sc***e to the body, not even down to the metal - I took the car in to a local accidant repair place who told me it would take two days to get the car repaired.

Direct Line had an approved repairer who kept the car for over two weeks and replaced a headlight, despite enquires I never got to find out why the headlight was replaced

The same was true when someone ran in to the back of my sisters' car, very minor damage and took nearly three weeks to repair the 307. Slightly more damage to a Mondeo belonging to a friend and that was seven weeks off the road

Why is it that abroad insurance charges are so much lower, have relatives in Poland and they have any driver policies, even I am allowed to drive their cars when I go to stay with them, they pay something around £100 per car comprehensiove. Told that in France insurance is more then 50% cheaper

Car Insurance Increases - gordonbennet

Indeed it is a timely thread renewal, groan sorry, notice NFU have been mentioned for the minor extra amount we have to pay the peace of mind of having an honourable and fair minded company with local offices staffed by good people is worth every penny, having said that NFU seem to appreciate honourable fair customers too as seen in our renewal premiums, as with most things it's a two way street.

In broader terms, until the insurance companies dig their heels in and start fighting back against fraud and spurious injury claims then it will continue. When they fight and win a few fraud cases and take the fraudsters to the cleaners for 6 figure legal bills then they'll think twice, even if hey have no funds or assets a lifetime commitment of X quid a week payback would help concentrate some minds.

It's peoples greed and selfishness that is much to blame too, if my car is off the road for a minor shunt i can manage quite well with the accident centre's Aygo for a couple of weeks as can 90% of us, we should all try to mitigate our losses and tell these accident management companiers to clear off, a brand spanking 5 series is only needed by a few.

In my previous work i've collected fleets of top brand executive cars from some of these companies, airfield compounds full of them it's big business.....and we are paying for it.

Car Insurance Increases - jonny1

got my insurance renewal today.its gone up £30 but im not complaining as its still £230 fully comp with protected noclaims etc.Funny thing is i've been looking at comparison sites and my renewal is £40 pounds cheaper than these online quotes.Also the cheapest online quote is from my current insurer.(the one that specializes in over 50s sounds like a longrunning tv prog)

Car Insurance Increases - kelove

When applying for a drivers license for the first time, i was wondering if it increases a person's car insurance; even if the person that is getting the license doesnt have a car, and is under the age of 18.

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Edited by WellKnownSid on 12/08/2010 at 13:31

Car Insurance Increases - Armstrong Sid
That doesn't seem to make sense.

If a person doesn't have a car how would you get a cost for insurance, unless for a hypothetical car
Car Insurance Increases - madf

New quote for Mrs madf reduced costs from £130 to £91... (Saga).

Inflation? what's that? :-)

Car Insurance Increases - BigJohnD
New quote for Mrs madf reduced costs from £130 to £91... (Saga).

Ha! Saga wouldn't insure me - said I drove too many miles a year (15,000+)!

Car Insurance Increases - WellKnownSid

Doesn't make sense because it's just rubbish to justify posting a URL to another site...

Car Insurance Increases - johnnyrev

Just got my renewal quote, up nearly 100 quid to 409, with protected NCD and legal cover. From various websites I found quotes around 100 lower, so I rang existing company and they wouldnt lower their quote any lower! So I am now shopping around, but getting annoyed with extortionate APR that some companies charge if you pay monthly.

Car insurance, what a racket!

Car Insurance Increases - Nezza

Agree with johnnyrev, complete racket. Paid £331 last year, renewal now £383. Ok in grand scheme of things not bad for a 31 yr old and a group 16 car fully comp with protected no claims, but still an increase. Rung them up, reduced to £297. They all just hope you will renew your policy without shopping around or querying the charges. If the renewal had been similar to last year I would have done just that and without complaint.

Car Insurance Increases - bonzo dog

Jeez Nezza, so Johnny complains that his ins co WON'T reduce their quote & you complain that they WILL. Would you prefer they increased it?

Car Insurance Increases - Nezza

Far from complaining that it has reduced. Point being if the price was fair initially, I would have been happy to pay more (ie similar to last years premium). The complaint was about the initial renewal price. If they can drop it so much when I complain and still make a profit, then why hike it by such a high percentage initially? Answer, to rip off those who do not question it.

Car Insurance Increases - Leif

My renewal quote was £225, up from £175, from a 'rapid insurer'. So I shopped around, and I can get the same for £200 from the nautical people with the camp actor in a sailor suit. I bet when I ring them, they'll say "What have you been quoted sir?" and the renewal will magically come down a noticecable amount.

What makes me angry is that some insurers automatically renew UNLESS you ring them up and say no. No doubt they do this to force you to ring them, so they can then do a sales job on you. Surely this automatic renewal should be illegal? What if the letter is lost in the post, and you don't find out until weeks after the renewal went through? It does seem iffy to me.