MG ZR - spare wheel dilemma - traveller29

Am I alone in being increasingly irritated by car manufacturers who no longer supply a full size spare wheel with their new models?

My MG came with one of those useless foam spray cans in the event of a puncture, other makers have adopted the practice to supply a "space saver" spare on most new cars, with a 50 mile range to "get you to the nearest garage". No explanation as to what to do if it's a Sunday or Bank Holiday and all the "nearest garages" are closed. Anyone who has been caught out in this way, would not consider embarking on a long journey without a full size spare. I had to obtain mine by scouring sc***yards on the internet.

I'm now looking round for a new vehicle, which is proving difficult, since I now refuse to buy one that doesn't come with a full size spare. Is it time to publish a list of manufacturers that still supply full size spare wheels with their new cars? (How about it, Honest John??).

If enough drivers boycotted those manufacturers who do not comply with a full size spare policy, perhaps those same manufacturers might very quickly change their minds confronted with falling sales.

MG ZR - spare wheel dilemma - Andy P

I can see why manufacturers are doing this - save weight and fuel, safety etc., but I'm with you on the subject.

I'd much prefer a full-size spare rather than a space saver/goo/current RFTs, although my overall preference would be the new run-flat tyres (providing they live up to Bridgestone's claims to be indistinguishable from normal tyres so I don't have to risk changing a wheel on the hard shoulder of a motorway).

Maybe manufacturers should provide space for a full-szie spare but with the option of a space-saver or can of goo. That way the buyer can decide which route to take, and if you buy one second-hand you can change it if you want to.

Edited by Andy P on 18/06/2010 at 13:26

MG ZR - spare wheel dilemma - Glaikit Wee Scunner {P}

Beware of 'full size' spares. They are not necessarily of the same wheel diameter, material and tyre profile. But better than a space saver.

MG ZR - spare wheel dilemma - veryoldbear

The "space saver" concept is a real pain if you do a lot of travel over the other side of the Channel. One puncture and you are very likely to have to buy 2 new tyres because you can't find a matching full size. I have a SAAB 95 Estate and carry my own full-size and matching spare (thanks to good 'ol Ebay) .... and of course it fits in the wheel well anyway ... and I have spider and a scissors jack (blow the fuel conumption). Anybody tried to change a wheel with the comedy jack and wheelbrace supplied ?

MG ZR - spare wheel dilemma - traveller29

Interesting thought..........supposing an accident is caused as a result of one of these "space savers" blowing out, causing the car to go out of control. Could you sue the manufacturer for supplying an unsafe spare wheel???

Wonder if anyone's tried it?

MG ZR - spare wheel dilemma - midlifecrisis

Run flat tyres are the single biggest abomination ever to hit motoring. We have looked seriously at the future purchase of more 5 series BMWs because of them. They have serious effects on the high speed handling and if you get a side wall blowout, you're screwed.

BMW owners are changing to 'normal' tyres in droves.

MG ZR - spare wheel dilemma - Andy P

I wouldn't go as far as to call RFTs an "abomination". I have them on my 335d and I don't have any problems with them in terms of handling, tramlining or anything else. The ride is firm, but no worse than a lot of other cars on 18" wheels. As for side wall blowouts, I'd expect this risk to be reduced because of the reinforcement placed there in order for them to be driven on at reduced pressure.

My friend has a 535d estate, and he's quite happy with RFTs.

As for "droves" - I doubt that. It's more that those that don't like RFTs are a lot more vocal in their criticism that those that do.

MG ZR - spare wheel dilemma - galileo

I was gratified to find a full size spare (on a matching alloy!) on my last 2005 Corolla and also on my 2009 Hyundai i30.

I'd guess Toyota Auris and Kia Ceed probably have full size spares (or at least space under the boot flloor to put one)

MG ZR - spare wheel dilemma - Avant

You certainly aren't alone. Unfortunately not enough buyers think of this point when buying a car, but find out the hard way later on.

I think most VWs and Audis have a full-sized spare, but that may have changed. Skoda supply one for about £60 as an option, which is I suppose better than a slap in the face with a wet haddock.

We ought to lobby the car magazines to include information about spare wheels or the lack of same in their road test tables. I will if I have the time.

MG ZR - spare wheel dilemma - traveller29

Good idea re. lobbying the car magazines to state, when they do new car tests, whether a full size spare is supplied.

I will e-mail relevant magazines to this end. Hopefully others who feel the same way will do the same.

MG ZR - spare wheel dilemma - meldrew

I would like to add to this thread. My son's ZR had a puncture in the wilds of Wales and the tyre was beyond the repair with the canister of squirty stuff. The RAC deemed the car not to have a spare wheel and charged for taking him to a garage.

My protests were ultimately agreed to and the RAC refunded the charge with shopping vouchers.

There is of course a well for a spare wheel so after the event we went to a breaker's yard in the wilderness of Cheshire and got a decent steel spare with a good tyre for £15.

Any spare that work is better than no spare and we learned our lesson the hard way!