VW Passat diesel - cam Tensioner Stud coming Loose - Carl2

is there a known problem with the tensioner stud coming loose on Passat diesel's. The car in question is a 55 year not sure of engine type or size. Neighbour changed the belt on one and now the stud keeps coming loose. He is meticuleus and used a calibrated digital torque wrench to the correct torque. We are guessing at some point someone may have overtightened it . it torques up ok then comes loose hours later luckily no damage each time (3). can anyone suggest a remedy heli coil, super duper locking compound etc

VW Passat diesel - cam Tensioner Stud coming Loose - Peter D

Post this on www.vwaudiforum.co.uk in the passat section i have read about that problem on there i think. Regards Peter

VW Passat diesel - cam Tensioner Stud coming Loose - Carl2

Thanks. any chance if i register with this site so i can search i,ll be landed with the usual junk e-mails?

VW Passat diesel - cam Tensioner Stud coming Loose - 659FBE

interestingly, i've just changed a cambelt on one of these. i decided to use a contitech kit as opposed to the oe VaG parts and found the supplied belt and rollers to be identical in manufacture to the originals on the engine (eg. tensioner made by Litens).

i had no problems whatever in doing the job but two factors relating to your problem came to light. The contitech kit includes the tensioner (and roller) studs, wheras the VaG kit does not. Presumably contitech regard this stud as a weakness - it's M10 in the engine, necked down to M8 for the retaining nut. There is no washer.

The other factor is torque. The specified torque for the tensioner wheel nut on a PD engine is 20Nm + 45deg. on reassembly, i tightened the nut to the specified torque, feeling that a reasonable tightness for the M8 stud had been almost reached. To finish the job, rather than using my angle tightener, i used a long ring spanner and a 45 deg "protractor" made by folding a rectangle of paper so that i could feel what was happening.

i decided that it would be most unwise to tighten this nut to the full 45 deg and stopped at about half the angle. There it sits - without problems and i have checked it a couple of times since.

i just wonder if the specified 20Nm + 45 deg was for the earlier tensioner which used an M10 stud of constant diameter. The tightening data is actually moulded onto the cam cover - it seems almost inconceivable that VaG would get it wrong - until you remember the debacle over special oil for the PD engine... any other feedback welcome.

659.

VW Passat diesel - cam tensioner Stud coming Loose - Peter D

No junk emails will appear. Regards Peter

VW Passat diesel - cam tensioner Stud coming Loose - Carl2

thanks for this excellent advice. Spoke to a VW mechanic who agrees with you (659Fbe) he says he does not give it the extra degrees. on closer inspection it now seems that the stud was fine but it came out of the head with a helicoil attached. i would not have thought that it was helicoiled from new so it looks like the previous owner had problems and my unlucky neighbour ended up with a headache. have registered with the VW forum this was a great help with one identicle car. this site and its posters are just great .thanks again

VW Passat diesel - cam tensioner Stud coming Loose - Carl2

i forgot to mention VW Mech said they take out the studs and give a dose of "JP Weld" when they work on these cars.