www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00qsv4l
Probably similar to other police-based programmes? I'll be watching anyway...
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Let's hope it is better than Police, Camera, Shouting - which would not be hard.
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Not Jamie Theakston again...
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He's not that bad - better than PC Tony Stamp.
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I will watch it on Iplayer later, I never seem to get bored of these cop programmes though they do make me a bit paranoid.
Sorry officer I did not see the car in front of me, I just sneazed all over the windscreen as it is ilegal to use a hankey.
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He's not that bad - better than PC Tony Stamp.
Sorry, I forgot the :-). You're right - I think he does it pretty well.
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Actually I've just discovered that this is just a new series of a programme which has been shown before, which might explain the deja vu.
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I might have taken a look - it's not on in Scotland.
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Theakston used to do some unusual documentaries of his own - which were qurky and interesting. He's better than the Estuary English speaker they have on Road Wars.
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He is actually a manc, his name is Lee Boardman and used to play a drug dealer which Jim McDonald killed in Coronation Street.
That said maybe there is a different presenter now? I don't have Sky so I have to watch it on Sky3 (freeview).
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He is actually a manc his name is Lee Boardman and used to play a drug dealer which Jim McDonald killed in Coronation Street.
I believe that the character was called Jez Quigley. I really do dislike the narration style on Road Wars - it's far too 'matey' for my liking. I'd much rather have Jamie Theakston. As it were.
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That said maybe there is a different presenter now?
I'll bet you a virtual pint there is - here's Lee Boardman:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=OD-RtOuiUPI
and it's definitely not him!
Edited by Focus {P} on 10/02/2010 at 21:36
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In real life, he married Jennifer James...pretty girl who played a barmaid in the Rovers.
Ted
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I might have taken a look - it's not on in Scotland.
According to the BBC page (link at the top) it's on tomorrow at 9 in Scotland.
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I'll be home in Manchester then. Intended driving home this afternoon but decided at the 11th hour to check back in to the hotel and drive back in the morning.
If it's any good I'll watch a bit on iPlayer. Sure I won't have missed anything though.
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I think Road Wars has that style of presenting as its trying very hard not be Police Camera Action. I enjoy a Roadwars but I find PCA far too patronising. They seem to have an hour eposide on why it is important to slow down in built up areas.
Police Interceptors on Channel 5 is sometimes worth a look, they go behind the scenes of different police forces.
Edited by Rattle on 10/02/2010 at 21:34
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Anyone notice the irony of that bald lorry driver telling us about the risks to lorry drivers, then pulling his curtains too when he went to beddy-byes whilst leaving his sat-nav on the screen?
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Yeah i noticed that bald driver. Last week at work i noticed a foriegn lorry pull up down this quiet lane near work. He was there all weekend. He undid the doors at the back of the trailer and left em wide open all weekend. They do this thieves know there is nothing to steal, the trailers empty.
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common occurance arount the m6 (j28 -j31) area , all the wagons parked in laybys have there rear doors opened
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According to this programme mega crime. Who would be a lorry driver eh.
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Looks like swindle sheets is still common though especially at night when vosa sleep and they think the police are too busy to cruise the motorways.
Good programme i thought,especially the caravan bit.
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That was interesting as well, smash and grabs in London nowadays always carried out by motorcyclists. You would be a fool to use a car in central London they said.
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jep a mk11 jag with blaggers in would soon get caught in some congestion
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It did make me feel a bit sorry for lorry drivers - well, the ones who do overnighters etc. - not knowing who's going to tamper with your vehicle (or you!) while you're asleep.
Leaving the back trailers doors open - see it quite alot up this way, near the Ireland ferries approach roads. Thing is, any lorry that doesn't have its trailer doors open might as well have a sign up saying: 'load on board, come and investigate'
The trucks with flappy textile sides - what is that about? Secure? Not. Why on earth design trucks like that! It's like me moaning that I've had burglars 'breaking in' while living in a tent.
Although I do, at a personal level, have some sympathy for truck drivers - fact is, we have far too much freight transported by road. Period. Much more could/should have been transported by rail. The transport lobby have created a bloated under resourced fleet without the infrastructure to service it e.g. secure lorry parks etc. Result is, 100s of millions of pounds' worth of stuff sitting around in lay-bys every night of the week - a blagger's charter.
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We also have a lot of secure lorry parks sitting only partially full at night, simply because Haulage companies have decided NOT to pay to have their lorries parked in them.
Parking costs anything between £15 and £27 per night and for a driver who is out for 5 nights a week, that represents a large part of his weekly wage.
Yes, we do get an overnight subsistence allowance of £17-£22 per night, but this is intended to reimburse the driver for food, coffee, showers and general inconvenience, NOT to park the employers loads and vehicles securely overnight.
This has always been a bone of contention with lorry drivers and Haulage firms and it's one of the things that will differentiate a good job from a bad one, when the wages are the same.
I understand the two lorry drivers found to be running over their hours were Irish, who are only just having to come to terms with a strict operating system as we have had to do for years!
Pat
Edited by pda on 11/02/2010 at 04:00
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Is there no pressure from the insurers for hauliers to use secure lorry parks? Higher premiums/no payout if they don't for example.
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None whatsoever OG unless it's a very high security load.
And there should be, it would prevent the safety of the load being put on the lorry drivers shoulders as happens at the moment.
A lot of firms have stopped paying parking fees since the recession, it's seen as a way to be able to cut costs and stay in business, I'm afraid.
Pat
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I understand the two lorry drivers found to be running over their hours were Irish, who are only just having to come to terms with a strict operating system as we have had to do for years!
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<>>>>> oh so its common for swindle sheets not to be used in ireland
interesting
so even though both halves are in the eu its quite normal to remove tacho fuses to flout driving hours
dont think so do you?
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Woodbine good point . Something ive said for years we have to get lorries of the road where possible. We have many rivers & canals far reaching inland, and also the rail network. Its a no brainer really is it not.
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Providing you want your out of town shopping centres built on the side of the picturesque British rivers and canals, it is.
Maybe a huge IKEA on the banks of the Thames at Henley?
Shame about all those people who love to take leisurely quiet holidays on the waterways.
Or shall we move them by rail and make everyone drive to a new shopping complex at DIRFT at Rugby.
Pat
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Massively off topic but wherever you put an IKEA it's going to be an eyesore.
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My point exactly OG :)
Pat
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When I watch programmes like this, I get very frustrated because the means to prevent these crimes exists. However, the risk of theft is obviously not deemed great enough to warrant spending the money on such security systems.
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...two lorry drivers found to be running over their hours...
One of the funniest things I have heard in court was at a Traffic Commissioners' hearing.
We were being told by a TC inspector about a dodgy haulage firm and its bad record keeping.
"I opened the nearside door of one their vehicles," said the inspector. "And I was nearly buried under an avalanche of used tachograph cards."
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I like that:)
In my new career of teaching the Driver CPC I'm learning the lorry drivers best friend is the 'transport cafe barrister'!
'I met a bloke the other day who told me...........'
What's more surprising is that so many prefer to believe him!
Pat
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What's more surprising is that so many prefer to believe him!
Probably because they don't like the sound of the alternative, Pat! :)
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I just give them all a list of VOSA's new Gradusted Fixed Penalties to take home!
Off to face todays 10 drivers now:)
Pat
Don't be falling out now whilst I'm gone:)
Edited by pda on 12/02/2010 at 09:47
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Don't be falling out now whilst I'm gone:)
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Yes Ma'm, er, No Ma'm! :)
Edited by Old Navy on 12/02/2010 at 10:10
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Very interested in the issue of caravan thefts. All caravans built after 1998 have a hidden microchip to identify it?
Could be worth putting into cars as well?
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And with the stolen caravan that was found via a tracking sytsem, how come that tracking system was able to follow the caravan on screen and know exactly what road it was on, but when you see police cars trying to find stolen vehicles using other trackers, they have to look for signals to tell them to turn left etc depending on strength of signal? Has always looked antiquated to me!
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And with the stolen caravan that was found via a tracking sytsem how come that tracking system was able to follow the caravan on screen and know exactly what road it was on
I'm guessing, but perhaps that had some sort of GPS device in the bit on the caravan that could transmit its exact location to the receiver.
but when you see police cars trying to find stolen vehicles using other trackers they have to look for signals to tell them to turn left etc depending on strength of signal?
Whereas the bits in the stolen vehicles are just simple transmitters that have to be 'located'.
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The original (non-GPS) tracking devices will have worked as described. More modern ones use GPS and send their position. You can be alerted if the car has been moved without your knowledge etc.
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Would it help to paint (or sticky label) your postcode in a big font on the roof of your caravan?
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Would it help to paint (or sticky label) your postcode in a big font on the roof of your caravan?
The last few digits of the CRIS number might be better. Allows you to move house, sell the caravan, not let thieves know you're away etc.
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Its a no brainer really is it not.
The only "no brainer" here is the person who makes daft suggestions like that. Apart from the fact that the maximum permitted speed on a canal is the walking pace of a horse, most canal boats have a smaller payload space than a small removal van. Even if you kicked all the pleasure craft off the canals, and replaced them with modern narrow-boats (an oxymoron in itself!) it wouldn't make a ha'porth of difference.
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Compare and contrast
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The english motorbike cop who was manning on the ANPR van over the M1, and the swedish motorbike cop seen pulling a driver in the swedish segment.
Who would you rather have feeling your collar ?
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Compare and contrast
Sorry borasport, I missed it - please could you summarise?
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The Swedish cop was a blonde lady, though I didn't see her sans helmet?
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The Swedish cop was a blonde lady though I didn't see her sans helmet?
thanks - I think I understand now where borasport is coming from :-)
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Did I hear the lady police officer get insurance law in a muddle over the white transit van guy? She was saying that him showing another persons policy with him as a named driver (or was it any driver?) for that vehicle didn't count unless he had his own policy in his own name???
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I was trying to get my head round that too, it seemed a muddled situation.
But then didn't it transpire the only insurance any of them had was a trader's policy and they weren't motor traders so it was void?
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The lady officer who was dealing with it was not very clear in her explanation, I thought, but at the same time it became increasingly clear that the driver and his son were doing their best to confuse the situation in the hope that the Police would give up.
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>>...didn't count unless he had his own policy in his own name???
The traveller guy tied her knots, although they did take the van off him.
She was actually right in what she said, but she was saying it for the wrong reasons.
The vehicle doesn't need it's own insurance if the driver is covered elsewhere BUT the guy was claiming he'd bought the van that day therefore he can't claim cover on someone else's policy.
Anyway, I think the Driving Other Cars (DOC) type cover is for cars only - not for vans.
It was interesting that it said a friend picked the van up the next day - with all the uncertainty over ownership and insurance I wouldn't have thought that would be allowable.
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One of them was unappealing (*), be-stubbled and looked to be on the outside of several very good lunches plus a pint or two, the other was lithe, blonde and leather clad - can you guess which which came from Sweden and which was West Mercia's finest ?
(*) to me at least -his mother/partner may disagree :-)
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I came into this programme last night about half way through..I agree that the guy with the white van and the female police officer were getting very messed up with the insurance confusion (I think it said 9 officers eventually got involved trying make sense of things).
I did like the piece about the Swedish licence plate system, very simple, and although they only have 5m cars compared to our 35m if it could be setup here it would cut our car crime rate dramatically, they reckoned because of it less than 1% of the car crime related to number plates,tax, MOT, insurance etc.
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