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My mother-in-law's '03, 19,900 mile Getz, six full services behind it, has just been diagnosed with a broken crankshaft. Local main dealer identifies this as "a known fault". Crank part number now superceded with modified type. Oops... Result: that'll be a new short motor madam, two grand please!
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Its nice of Hyundai to introduce a bit of character back into Asian made cars.
In this case they have brought in a feature of 1940-50's cars very nicely !
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Time to ring round the scrappies and "auto-recyclers" - I can't imagine the car's worth the cost of the new engine?
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Nevertheless, the car deserves some kind of award for doing less than 3,000 miles a year in its 7 year life so far.
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Thatz what you getz when you buy a cheap Korean car!
But seriously, that is poor. I wonder if the oil was actually changed in the service or whether it was skimped, considering the low mileage?
Edited by boxsterboy on 27/01/2010 at 16:09
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"Not fit for purpose" in my opinion.
Crankshafts should not break in this day and age, especially something as mils as a Getz.
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Scrap the car it's just not worth forking out the money for a second hand engine and fitting some £800.00 plus.
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A crank shouldnt break unless motherilaw is doing standing start clutch dumps at full revs
get back to someone in charge at hyundai towers,they should be sorting this at 80% to them 20% to motherinlaw for fair wear and tear
known issue indeed
even ladas didnt break crankshafts
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even ladas didnt break crankshafts
If the Getz engine was based in a indestructible Fiat 124 engine - I doubt if that would break either!
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If the Getz engine was based in a indestructible Fiat 124 engine - I doubt if that would break either!
Well the Getz is based on what is usually the even more indestructible Mitsubishi Colt engine.
That is seriously poor, and I certainly don't buy the common fault line. The almost identical 1.3 12V fitted to the Accent is a proven high-miler. No reason whatsoever why this should have happened other than a poorly manufactured part -- no design fault I'm aware of. The only inherent fault these cars had were that the earliest cars had weak clutches -- like the Accent -- and these had been sorted by 2003.
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I used to have and '03 1.1 Getz, it had 80k+ miles on the clock before I sold it to get something a bit more powerful. Had no problem with it whatsoever apart from it needed a new oxygen sensor after I filled it up with contaminated Morrisons fuel. How's that for a cheap Korean car?
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We have a Hyundai dealer not far away and so seen quite a number of Getz for servicing. They are normally very reliable little cars and I never heard of broken crank. I dont think its a 'common; problem.
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Define Broken Crankshaft, exactly. Regards Peter
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...Define Broken Crankshaft, exactly...
Yes, that would be helpful.
I'd be surprised if it's snapped in two.
Doesn't anyone regrind cranks any more?
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>>I'd be surprised if it's snapped in two.
Oddly, that's the failure which I would imagine to be more likely. A fatigue failure caused by torsional vibration not being adequately mitigated would be more likely - a wear failure would have givenlots of warning.
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I've known a few cranks go out of true, and quite a few with knackered bearing surfaces due to oil starvation/breakdown.
Can't recall coming across one in two pieces, which is not to say it doesn't happen, of course.
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>>Can't recall coming across one in two pieces
It used to be a surprisingly common failure. Even on 4 cylinder engines, it was more common on three bearing engines, and engines without any form of torsional vibration control. The crack would typically begin in the fillet area between the big end journal and the web.
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Early MX5's suffered the crank nose breaking off due to a combination of design and servicing errors.
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Formula Ford engines used to suffer broken crankshafts. The engines were often set so low that the bottom of the bellhousing was cut away and the flywheel was the lowest part of the car, hanging down below the chassis. This was good for handling but not so good for the crankshaft if you went hopping across the kerbs.
I don't think they set the engine so low anymore.
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But seriously that is poor. I wonder if the oil was actually changed in the service or whether it was skimped considering the low mileage?
On mileage as low as this, I doubt if the odd missed oil change would have ever made the oil go 'out of spec'.
The failure would be down to a manufacturing/metalogical defect I would have thought.
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If it's a 'known fault', doesn't that make Hyundai bang to rights? They can scarcely blame it on mother-in-law after saying that.
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Not a Getz but, the crank broke in two across the web between nos. 3 and 4 cylinders on my 1954 1200 Beetle at 105,000 miles. We were 100+ miles from home but it still got us back with a bit of a rattle! The later (1960?) engine had larger diameter bearing journals and probably thicker webs.....
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If it's a 'known fault' doesn't that make Hyundai bang to rights? They can scarcely blame it on mother-in-law after saying that.
It was someone at the dealership who said that, not Hyundai themselves. The "someone" may have been wrong. It's not unknown for people to exaggerate.
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tinyurl.com/yde7uam
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My mother-in-law's '03, 19,900 mile
The point above still remains this is a seven year old car well out of warranty it mat have full history but just can't see it been replaced under warranty.
It's a shame but still hand in pocket and pay or cut your loses and scrap.
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tinyurl.com/yguhkgt
Not a Hyundai, though.
Clk Sec
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The point above still remains this is a seven year old car well out of warranty it mat have full history but just can't see it been replaced under warranty.
Can you still get £2K of my (and others of course) taxes to buy another car ?
The car is 7, I wouldn't expect anything from the manufacturer, even Korean manufacturers have to run a business, subsidised by the British tax payer or not.
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Didn't see the thrust bearings going in !
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The crankshaft snapped in the (single) engine of a plane my brother-in-law was flying!
They're American engines, very lightly loaded and running at 2500 RPM while cruising. Apparenly it's unheard of for them to snap. But his did.
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The crankshaft snapped in the (single) engine of a plane my brother-in-law was flying!
Did his parachute work ok?
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Chances are it was faulty manufatcure which slowly got worse and failed. It's probably not worth the effort but it should be possible to have the part examined by a metals expert. I think if you can prove that the fault was there from new you might have a case.
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Did his parachute work ok?
Crash landed in a field in Ireland with no injuries, this was flying from England so most of the journey had been over water.
He won't fly anything with a single engine now.
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