I was thinking of buying a 2.0 diesel Mondeo, and was wondering what is the difference between these 2 diesels ?
I assume that the TDCi is going to be phased out as it is the old mondeo engine, but is the Duratorq and completely new unit and is it very much better ?
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They are all know as TDCi and Duratorq.
The Mondeo III engine is different, chain cam though the Mondeo IV uses the joint venture Ford / Peugeot engine as per the Focus II etc.
The only thing I have heard is that the 2.2 may be phased out in favour of a nearly as powerful and more economical 2.0 unit.
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The mkIII 2.0 TDCi comes in two flavours as well - 115 PS or 130 PS. Same basic engine, but mapped differently, and with differences to the fuel system and turbo. Identifiable by a label on the engine cover, or by typing the reg or VIN into this website:
www.etis.ford.com/
Seen stories on the Mondeo sites of unscrupulous traders trying to pass off 115s as 130s, so check it out thoroughly.
Edited by DP on 24/01/2010 at 13:24
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Od course there was also the TDDi Duratorq as well though I assumed that the OP was talking about the Mondeo IV because he talks about "being phased out as it is the older engine".
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...there was also the TDDi Duratorq as well...
I got the impression Ford marketing used Duratorq when they had more than one type of diesel engine.
They are all TDCi now, even the light commercials.
The blurb for the new Focus mentions a new range of improved TDCi engines, so it looks like the term will be with us for a while.
Gave my CC3 - 2ltr TDCi - a little blast yesterday,
It revs willingly past the red line, has a decent amount of grunt, and when pushed, a not unpleasant throaty growl.
Pretty good for what is more of a workhorse unit than a thoroughbred.
Much more petrol like than my previous 1.8 TDCi.
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Much more petrol like than my previous 1.8 TDCi.
I think the current CR diesels are "tuned" to feel like a petrol (wash my mouth out) engine. When I moved from the previous technology diesels, both to IDI and DI, I had no problems but initially, I stalled my first CR diesel occasionally. I assume this was to make them more acceptable to drivers used to petrol engines.
Edited by Old Navy on 24/01/2010 at 13:55
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Sorry I should have been more specific, I meant a new or nearly new Mondeo and according to the brochre there is still 2.0 TDCi and 2.0 Duratorq so I am confused...
I know on the old shape Mondeo theu had the TDCi engine but in 2 power guises.
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Duratorq was a brand name they used (and still us) for the diesels. As some have said already the TDDi and TDCi have both been branded as Duratorq. All diesel engines from Ford are currently all common rail and known as TDCi.
Things may change with the new turbo petrols bringing a common name to turbo engines from Ford.
If you're after a new or nearly new Mondeo IV then it will be a common rail engine from the joint venture between Ford and PSA.
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In the diesels there's currently the 1.8, the 1.8 Eco, 2.0 TDCI and 2.2.
The 2.0 and 2.2 are relatively new engines so will be in the range for a long time.
I've had a 2.0 for just under 2 years and 20K miles. Average of 42.5 genuine mpg in that time, performance is pretty much all I want (I drive, er, positively) :)
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My 2.0 TDCI has Duratorq moulded into the engine cover, I think Duratorq is Ford marketing speak for "Diesel Engine". As Durashift is for auto transmissions.
Edited by Old Navy on 24/01/2010 at 20:42
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The 2.0 and 2.2 are relatively new engines so will be in the range for a long time.
There is a new version of the 2.0 on the way, 163 bhp and very eco, I wonder if the 2.2 will continue alongside this or will itself get a power boost.
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