You can look over your shoulder my friend as i've been in an audi rally car.
Is there a type of transport you haven't used?
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Is there a type of transport you haven't used?
Hearse.
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Hearse.
He probably used one as a gig van for his boy band.
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rally type harnesses are of the 6 point , or even 8 point fixing , running into the rear floorpan of the vehicle , therefore rendering the back seets unusable
i can only think that "adapted types " would be nothing like "racing harnesses" , probably more like the old static type "with adattives"
so how are you going to make a 3 point static belt , work like a 6 point?
wield a big bar between the driver/passenger mounted from the floor to roof ? , extra bars behind the seats (missing rear passengers? to attach it?
ok "my friend" ,,,over to you
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My friend, surely there is massive room for straighforward improvement to the seat belt!!
i'm not asking for the full harness my friend, but a more even distribution of load over cchest in the event of an impact.
i've already had an idea as i post this and acutally going to copyright my section and forward it to volvo via registered post - hence my idea.
over to you friend!
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Paul
two points.
I have driven and been driven in group B rally cars. (the realy hairly monsters.)
I was unable to turn round due to the restriction of the full harness. If you could, it wasnt done up properly
point 2, rally cars dont have airbags, cars do. I have also written off a car, big time. The standard belt and airbags did me just fine.
NO change needed
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AE
All i have done is posted an idea on the basis that a seat bealt that covered a larger part of the chest/sholders would disperse the impact load. along with the inertia type seat belt, surely reduce the risk of injury. I'm not saying we need a full harness type seat belt.
I still beleive that there are straightforward types of improvements to seat belts for roads cars and this will help all.
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Why would you want a cross your heart seat belt ? Unless you have some kind of central mounting point then the load is still going to transfer over to the side of the car where the single upper mount is.
Remember also some cars only have two doors so rear ease of access has to be considered.
My moobs are big enough yet to require lifting and separating or is this what you have in mind :)
www.emmitsburg.net/humor/pictures/2005/seat_belt.j...g - cartoon link
Edited by gmac on 20/01/2010 at 20:17
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"over to you friend"
Nice to know you have one Paul! somehow I couldn't imagine it:-)
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I don't see that trying to copyright such an idea (or patent) is any good. 4,5,6 and 7 point seatbelts have been around for years in non road cars and indeed in fighter aircraft (though for different reasons.) I would say with some certainty that most major car manufacturers have studied and researched the holy grail of safety systems, and looked to improve on it.
As already stated the harness in a rally car is designed in the absence of other safety systems, to hold the driver in place and to allow the roll bars to do the work. In a road car the seatbelt has to work with a range of other systems. Nowadays the additional techonology with various pretensioners and sensors provide amazing repsonse and reduced risk or serious injury.
Some of the most serious injuries are caused by rapid deceleration and the internal organs such as the heart smacking into your rib cage. A harness, although spreading the weight for external bruising and injury is not designed with the same flexibility.
I saw a demo of the new Mercedes system a while back. By now I imagine all modern cars operate similarly - when the front sensors detect impact, the seatbelt is released to allow the occupants forward with the momentum, to slow the body slightly more gracefully, before tightening and pulling the person back into the seat to avoid to close contact with the exploding airbag. This all happens in something like a quarter of a second. (It also does several other clever things which I now forget...)
And Paul, please don't go modifying your existing seatbelts, the insurance company would frown upon it and your MOT will fail it! ;-)
Edited by Devolution on 20/01/2010 at 20:19
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Good and informative post
I too is aware of the rapid deceleration/etc.
the point about 'mod' my seat belts, I won't - but certain you said that in jest.
however, I do have an idea and the copyright is the letter i will send dated via reg post.
I may be mistaken but about a year ago i recall a tv prog that showed a seat belt with an integrated airbag, ie to reduce load on a body part and aid declaration - not sure if i imagined this or really did see it on the tv.
If I could help in anyway in improving car/vehicle safety i'd be well chuffed.
Edited by paul2007 on 20/01/2010 at 20:35
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the point about 'mod' my seat belts I won't - but certain you said that in jest.
Of course!
I may be mistaken but about a year ago i recall a tv prog that showed a seat belt with an integrated airbag...
You did. Ford have trialled ideas based around this to cushion you more:
tinyurl.com/ybwr4a9
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Cheers D for clearing that one up!!!
Must put the laptop down on the floor and concentrate on the tv and unwind as v early start tomorrow.
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You'll be back....muwahahahahaaaaaa
[/Vincent Price voice]
Edited by Lygonos on 20/01/2010 at 21:03
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if I could help in anyway in improving car/vehicle safety I'd be well chuffed
I look forward to seeing you on Dragons Den!
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You can look over your shoulder as i've been in an audi rally car.
The driver didn't happen to be called John did he?
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