www.jrclassics.co.uk
I am interested in the services this company provides. But I was wondering if anyone has any thoughts about the procedure they use. When I asked someone else about it, they said I should be asking lots of questions - like, how do they power wash and thoroughly dry the car in such a short time.
It would be great, if by chance, someone here has actually used this company. Any thoughts appreciated!
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I didn't read that they power washed, just "cleaned" so no need to dry. In fact they state To help speed up the time it takes to treat your car we recommend that you hose down any build up of mud under the car a day or two before the treatment.
Not used them, but for the time involved, the price seems reasonable. It takes a lot of effort to do the job properly.
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Yes, I have heard of people applying Waxoyl themselves and then a year later most of it is flaking off - probably because they didn't apply it properly in the first place.
My point is that their procedure doesn't seem like it would work too well on a car that's been on the road for any considerable amount of time. Injecting waxoyl into a box section full of road dirt doesn't seem like too good an idea?
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I had my pick up rustproofed professionally by another company earlier this year, i supplied a link to my photobucket account showing some pics...if you go to Ratties ''Motoring Snow Pics'' thread and click on the link in my post they should be there.
Waxoyl is used inside box section, doors, bonnet section, sills etc and a much heavier semi hardening seal is heavily applied to the exposed underbody, ordinary waxoyl is too soft for long term exposed areas.
IMO it's worth doing but i would prefer to wait until the salt has gone and you can start to fully clean under your vehicle before the process is applied, and give any rust spots on chassis/suspension etc a good wire brushing and coats of paint etc to add to protection.
I supplied my vehicle to them in spotless and dry condition underbody and they did not need to pre clean again before application, which pleased us mutually, and saved me a few bob.
Cleaning the body of waxoyl overspray the day after process was elbow geasing work however.
The protection seems good to date, we'll see more after the winter's over.
I would do it again without hesitation to a vehicle i intend to run indefinately.
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Sounds interesting for the Maxi, but they are a long way away - anyone know if there any West Midlands way as I'd like to chat with them first before committing myself...
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if there any West Midlands way as I'd like to chat with them first before committing myself...
There's 'beforenafter' at Rugby, and 'Rustmaster' at Harpenden who i used, both easily googlable.
I have no interest in any of the companies mentioned other than a satisfied customer of one of them, incidentally they were about to start an E type V12 after finishing my truck, and had just finished a Tranny!!? as i turned up which had travelled down from the West Mids.
I would have considered the Doncaster company too but we were able to meet up with family at St Albans whilst the truck was being done...plus Donny's a fair run for us too.
Edited by gordonbennet on 21/12/2009 at 20:38
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I will probably go with JR Classics. I live in Sheffield so Doncaster isn't far for me. I've been Googling for ages but I haven't found many other companies in Yorkshire. So now I just have to wait until the winter weather finishes. :)
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Is this a classic or modern vehicle you're thinking of doing? Many modern vehicles just do not need this treatment. If a classic vehicle huge care needs taking with the power washing.
In any case I'd think about deferring this until july/aug when the car can be cleaned and left a few days for the water to dry out from the seams. Some places extensively use a dewatering fluid which should do the same job but I'm wary. You don't want to seal in seam moisture with waxoyl.
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M.M - The vehicle in question is a 2008 Ford Ka, the old shape. Obviously the car is not old, but the design is not modern by any means. The Ka was introduced in 1996. The design is based off the Mk III Fiesta. The bodywork design dates back to the late 80s/early 90s. It does not use galvanised steel and I do not see any evidence of rustproofing on the vehicle. These cars were built very cheaply and rust is typical on the door sills, pillars, suspension arms, underbody, etc after about 5 years if they are not looked after, treated, etc. What can rust will rust. ;-) So I think it's a pretty good idea to get this done, and also religiously start pressure washing underneath the car once or twice every month all year round.
Edited by Jcoventry on 21/12/2009 at 21:14
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a ka is easy to rustproof yourself
have they quoted a price?
i would agree get it done if its a long term keep as on some places in the old ka there doesnt even seem to be even primer,i look at these sometimes and think of the old bl minis and brand new rusting subframes
be aware these fords rust most where two panels meet like the ends of the front inner wings /rear boot floor to rear panel etc, oh and the sills everywhere
good luck
i would expect to pay £250 ish for a thorough job by the way
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bell boy - JR Classics charge £195 for small cars, price list is on their site.
I've been reading that Dinitrol is better than Waxoyl - maybe I can work something out with Jr Classics to use that instead.
This is interesting:
www.fiatforum.com/bodyshop/208610-rust-proofing-wi...7
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Yep fully understand if it's a Ka... had a bit to do with them. It is true some wax into the rustprone internal seams would help but loads could be done by brushing on waxoyl over the whole underbody, suspension etc... plus using waxoyl's own underseal for the higher impact wheel arch areas. Waxoyl is often better brushed on if the vehicle isn't absolutely clean. It is acceptable to brush it on over light dry dust as the brushing action ensures it adheres... spray it on and it will likely peel off in time as mentioned above.
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Nothing wrong with waxoyl but dinitrol do have a larger range of products for different areas of the car.
On the slightly rust prone Ka I guess £195 is a decent price if it includes the cavities. I'd still ask how they clean/dry at this time of year.
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