2nd December it was reported a rooftop protest caused traffic chaos across London as police were forced to close a major commuter route for more than nine hours.
Motorists were stuck in jams for up to six hours after the man refused to come down from the roof of a community arts centre in Leytonstone.
Police closed nearby roads as a safety measure, including the eastbound carriageway of the A12 between the A106 Eastway and the Green Man roundabout.
It caused tailbacks stretching more than three miles and affected Hackney, Bethnal Green, Poplar, Whitechapel, Clapton and Leyton, through yesterday afternoon and evening rush hour.
How on earth can 1 person be allowed to affect the lives of thousands of other people in this way?
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Where's a sniper when you need one?
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A fire hose can work wonders!
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maybe he was a terrorist (causing mayhem and major inconvenience to us all). !
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I see a Transport Minister complained to the Highways Agency about congestion following the closure of Blackwall Tunnel on Monday after the fire. Something along the lines of "there should be better diversions and/or no delays".
Well, many of us have long had similar criticism of the Traffic Wombles, and my thoughts to the Minister are "welcome to the real world!"
And I see today the South Circular Road was closed for much of today after someone was sadly run-over and killed by a truck at 5.00 am. All very sad, of course, and I know the Police have to treat it as a crime scene, but is it really necessary to close a road for so long??
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Hang on just a cotton-pickin' moment...
It's in the L.E.S. as "he walked into the 491 Gallery, in Grove Green Road, and scaled the chimney stack". Looking up the "419 Gallery" indicates that the post code is: E11 4AA. Plugging *that* into "Google maps" gives this: tinyurl.com/ygaxwxy. If yon chappie can hurl a brick (or anything else) from that row on Grove Green Road onto the A12, then he must be a world-record champion brick-thrower. So, why close the A12?
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All very sad, of course, and I know the Police have to treat it as a crime scene, but is it really necessary to close a road for so long??
This has been discussed ad-nauseum here - there are government proposal to change the practice. N need for topic drift.
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... there are government proposal to change the practice. .. >>
Pugugly: Do you mean this?
www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?v=e&t=80...6
If so, it refers to a suicidal man on a bridge, and my reading of the reports does not show any rethink by the "Government" but merely a referral to the IPCC . Note that road closure "guidelines" are drawn up by a self-appointed Union (ACPO) who IMO seem to want to protect their own backs and seemingly draw up the guidelines to avoid being sued.
report of the incident:
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bristol/8245500.stm
" ... The M5 was shut due to concern for the safety of a man who later died after falling from a motorway bridge.
Andy Pullen, of Avon and Somerset Police, said: "Let me apologise to all the road users who were caught up in the traffic at Avonmouth last weekend." ...
.... Supt Andy Pullen, head of the road policing unit, said the force would be carrying out a full scale review of their procedures. ...
... The incident was also raised by Lord Stoddart of Swindon, who has submitted a written question asking the government to investigate the closure of the motorway on 28 August. ... "
and the follow up report:
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bristol/8358752.stm
" ... "I understand that Avon and Somerset Constabulary have informed their Professional Standards Department and the incident has been referred to the Independent Police Complaints Commission," he added. .. ... "
I may of course have misunderstood and there may be other "government proposal to change the practice" that Pugugly is aware of; and if so, perhaps he could tell us more details.
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If you read the remark correctly it was to stop it was made to stop this thread going down the fatal RTC investigation route.
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If you read the remark correctly it was to stop it was made to stop this thread going down the fatal RTC investigation route. >>
Yes but, no but, what about your claim that "there are government proposal to change the practice"? What proposal is that?
www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?v=e&t=80...0
Edited by jbif on 03/12/2009 at 14:28
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Reminded me of a bomb scare at home. Police at the door telling us to evacuate...they'd found a shell on waste land' It was about 400 yds away and there were plenty of houses between us. I didn't go. The road was taped off and a family a few doors further away made the trek complete with budgie and fish tank. At the same time people were lifting the tape and walking up to where the bomb was, including a lady with a pram. I believe it was the size of a machine gun shell.
Later that afternoon I heard a ' pop ' as bomb disposal did what they have to do !
Didn't even vibrate....Good job it wasn't any nearer the main road...we'd have had gridlock for hours.
Ted
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>>were plenty of houses between us. >>
Lud will now sing for us:
"Wiv a ladder an' some glasses,
You could see to 'ackney Marshes,
If it wasn't fer the 'ouses in between!"
:)
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On London traffic report this week.
Congestion during rush on M4 elevated. Broken down moped. The reporter said it was on the chevrons. So out the way. The HA wombles came and closed a lane. Why didn't they just escort the unfortunate so and so off the motorway. It was by a junction for gords sake.
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