I happened to spin my front wheels accidently in the rain when exiting a side turning and apart from going nowhere the driving wheels were just banging?? and felt terrible. The whole car shook and it felt like something was broken. I have checked everything seems ok and the car drives fine. Any ideas? Could one of my wheels be buckled, seems strange as the ride is fine? Tyres are good brand (Goodyear) and whilst needing imminent replacement they are not down to the TWI.
The car hasnt got traction/stability control btw.
Edited by TimOrridge on 29/11/2009 at 17:20
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yup thats what happens when you wheelspin a fwd car, specially with the wheels not pointing forwards. The wheels jump up and down.
The cure is easy, dont do it.
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as in "axletramp" to us olduns
yes?
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Check out this thread for some thoughts.
www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?t=59113
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When I occasionally wheelspin my mk3 Golf, I can hear a bumping sound from the rear around the exhaust area, BTW it's fwd.
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Ah the efficiency of FWD, so much power available and no way of getting it down:-)
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Ah the efficiency of FWD so much power available and no way of getting it down:-)
LOL more like the inefficiency of FWD getting traction down - weight transference being one culprit!
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weight transference being oneculprit!
All you need is traction, stability, ESP, ESG, WRVS or whatever all that rubbish is called and the car will be perfectly controllable:-)
How did we manage to nip around with all those old RWD's without such gimmicks.
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How did we manage to nip around with all those old RWD's without such gimmicks.
Sometimes sideways ;-)
... but then we learnt how to control a car - not the car control us!
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Much the same experience with my Xantia. Multi-storey car park, steel ramps with a "grippy" surface. Weather damp and cold.
Wheel on inside of turn when ascending (offside in this case) made loud bumping noise at every opportunity. Conviced myself that CV joint was on way out but it passed MoT fine 5 days later and fault will not replicate on level tarmac.
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i've copied this from the squeak and rattle thread:
Jag X Type 2.0 D SE estate 2005 (50K): ................................. Approx 4 times over 5 years, loud clonk from O/S/F suspension, (similar to axle tramp thread) e.g. if you pull out of a junction very quickly and spin a wheel on a wet road. Has once done it during sudden emergency braking. Had it checked the first time it did it, nothing untoward found. Very infrequent as we don't usually drive it like that, so now ignore it.
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Nothing to with FWD or RWD per se as either can suffer from axle tramp. This can be quite damaging.
A decent suspension design does not do it, but costs more, so not all cars have good suspension.
As far as the op is concerned you would need to find out how typical of the make and model it was. Different models of same car can vary.
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I've noticed this 'front-drive-axle-tramp' now I'm driving a fwd car after a few years in rwd. Not nice at all.
I think the problem is that when I used to drive fwd, they didn't have so much power - now they have too much power for their own good. 'Power corrupts' etc.
Edited by boxsterboy on 30/11/2009 at 14:55
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