What is wrong with the tube/train/bus/walking? It is this lazyness which is destroying society, people parking were they want without thinking. It is double yellow lines for a reason you moron.
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It is double yellow lines for a reason you moron.
But often a pretty crap reason Rattle. I am surprised by your harshness towards this poor fellow. It's funny of course - even the guy himself thought so - but liable to cost him quite a lot.
Horse Guards Avenue is a wide sweeping road from Admiralty Arch to Birdcage Walk. Used to have cars parked nose to tail down both sides. Never goes closer to Downing Street than about fifty yards. It would have had to be a hell of a bomb to do any damage there.
I think the antiterrorist squad were feeling a bit bored and leapt at the excuse to blow something up. Pity it was a nice motor and not a horrible old shed.
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>>The force of the blast blew the doors off and smashed the windows
What was Michael Caine's line in The Italian job? ;>)
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Coincidentally, I've just received this e-mail from my daughter in London:
I got a parking ticket this am outside the hospital. I had paid using the phone service (you ring a number on the machine and quote your number plate and a location code) and have a receipt to prove this. The time on the ticket is two mins before the start time stated on my receipt meaning the xxxxxy jobsworth actually issued the ticket while I was at the machine paying! Do you think I can appeal on these grounds?
If she'd run from the car to the ticket machine she may have beaten the traffic warden but lost the car. ;>)
Edited by bathtub tom {p} on 23/11/2009 at 14:18
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btt & daughter.
If this is a London Council appeal it. There are reported cases in the reports of both the parking appeal tribunals (London has its own) about going to pay which clearly apply here.
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Thanks Bromptonaut.
I've advised her to do so. I thought it was coincidental that I should be reading this thread when her e-mail arrived.
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Parking in military establishments has been enforced by this method for many years.
Illegal parking is very rare.
I wonder if he jokes about bombs at airports?
Edited by Old Navy on 23/11/2009 at 14:19
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He was a Moron because you dont park there at that time of the year, and then run away.
He might have well painted it black, written B O M B on the side in white letters, and lit the fuse on the roof.
Edited by Altea Ego on 23/11/2009 at 14:16
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He was a Moron because you dont park there at that time of the year and then run away.>> He might have well painted it black written B O M B on the side in white letters and lit the fuse on the roof.
Exactly. Although I'd extend it to any time of the year.
If after all this time and all the headlines over the years re various terrorism difficulties, if people can't work out that dumping you car illegally near any kind of Govt building or similar in circs like that doesn't look suspicious, then they're incredibly foolish indeed. Particularly as you'd get clamped if nothing else, so why would anyone normal dump it there?...which adds to the suspicion.
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Arrogance and thoughtlessness. Same reasons for most anti-social behaviour.
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LOL, I think they should do the same to everybody who parks on double yellows, it might create some sort of deterrent ;0)
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He should never have dumped the car illegally there and then ran away. If he'd walked away maybe they'd have taken a different approach.
Remember the (thankfully) failed attempt to detonate a car outside a club in London a few years back. And then they moved on to Glasgow airport to try and bomb that.
I'm sure he'll get some compensation - well maybe.
Looking at in another way... had they not done the controlled explosions and it had been left by a terrorist.... shudder to think what may have happened.
Well done I say to the security services!
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In the late '70s, a friend broke down outside what was then the GPO in Edinburgh in his Mk1 Cortina. Earlier that day he had been unsuccessfully trying to fit a radio and there were wires hanging out of the dash. It was of course a time when the security services were very sensitive to the Irish troubles.
Anyway, my pal went home to get some tools to attempt to fix his car. On his return he found the bomb squad having cordoned off the area around his car and about to conduct a controlled explosion. He did manage to persuade them not to but I do seem to remember he got quite a lot of grief over it.
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quote......... a spokesman for insurance price comparison website confused.com said it is unlikely he will receive a payout for his car as he parked illegally........unquote
even more stupid than leaving keys in cars
no wonder we are called a nanny state
nincompoops are getting numerous as i get older
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Until March 8, 1973 I used a very nice office on the first floor of the London School of Accountancy building - exactly opposite the Old Bailey. Somebody parked a car below my window.
The building was cleared of people - all standing near Barts - when one of the wheels embedded itself in the stone wall next to my office, and three offices became one. For the youngsters, look up Old Bailey and the date - anyone who runs off from a car parked suspiciously deserves a little attention from the Bomb Squad.
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And deepwith, someone involved in that 1973 bombing is linked to the another "incident" recently. So you show these things have to be taken seriously. But do not discuss to linked "incident" recently (I know they're linked but this is a new investigation).
Edited by rtj70 on 23/11/2009 at 16:42
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quote......... a spokesman for insurance price comparison website confused.com said it is unlikely he will receive a payout for his car as he parked illegally........unquote
crikey, i was unaware that parking on double yellow lines invalidated ones insurance?
heaven forbid i get an engine fire whilst travelling along such a road with parking restrictions
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"crikey, i was unaware that parking on double yellow lines invalidated ones insurance?"
A few months ago someone parked on double yellows near where I work in Epsom was hit by a reversing lorry.
The police on the scene said they would be very unlikely to get a payout because they were illegally parked.
"heaven forbid i get an engine fire whilst travelling along such a road with parking restrictions"
In such an instance you would get a payout because you were not parked when the incident started.
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If after all this time and all the headlines over the years re various terrorism difficulties
I hope I never make any suspicious move myself near any of these "anti-terrorist" people and get shot at, or have my car blown up. Doubtless it'd be my fault for getting something out of my boot, or bag, or jacket pocket.
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The clever bit is striking the balance FT, blow the car up, or suffer the consequences of a potential bomb. No contest in my book.
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there are badly parked cars in every City, every day of the week...the judgement call is when to take a concern seriously and when not to... and it's not necessarily easy
without giving away too much, with the limited info to hand in this case, i'd say it was reasonable to take it seriously
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The other report might have read.
"Police spotted the car being parked and the driver running off, It is believed, that shortly before the bomb had gone off hey had sent a Police patrol to the registered keeper's home address but could not get a reply there - a Police Spokesman said - "we ummed and ahh'd about it for a while, Nobby thought it might have been on false plates, but no-one here thought that car bombers were canny enough to think of that....."
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He was parked there for at least four hours - I suppose they could have lifted it, but if you recall they did that with another car-bomb a few years ago. Damned if they do, damned if they don't, usual story, armchair warriors will love it though.
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I was the only one on my set of 3 minibuses not to make it to the Harrods bomb...(we'd all heard it from opposite Downing Street, sounded like a big wall falling down)...because I ran up the road to stop traffic to let all our minibuses out of a side turning (my driver didn't stop for me, when i thought naively he would).
Judging by the trauma suffered by my colleagues, which came out in various ways for many months afterwards and the truly horrific things they had to see and deal with, i'd inadvertently done myself an enormous favour....and they were on the periphery of it all when you consider those that died, their families and the injured.
So if anyone is inconvenienced or has their property damaged in circumstances where they themselves were to blame..let's not forget that...HE WAS TO BLAME FOR THIS... then too bad... maybe he'll be more thoughtful next time...and maybe someone reading the Press reports will have a think to themselves and not do the same. You live and hope.
Don't forget the bomb disposal man had to deal with it, not knowing whether or not it was a real one....I take my hat off to them, big time.
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If I recall that area of London correctly, a parked car would be very conspicuous.
I don't think you have to have police or security services anti-terrorism training to wonder what it might be doing there.
Anyone with a modicum of intelligence would be concerned.
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Its a sus car in a sus place in a sus manner.
Its tough sus that it got blown up. Moron.
My beer was spilt by an IRA bomb when i was working in london, I have no sympathy
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>>Don't forget the bomb disposal man had to deal with it, not knowing whether or not it
>>was a real one....I take my hat off to them, big time.
The bravest bunch of people IMO. It's one hell of a brave thing to go off on a patrol and find yourself in a scrap; quite another to look death in the face in completely cold blood as the bomb disposal boys do.
My view is that the motorist in the link should be prosecuted for wasting police time, and should be billed for the costs of the operation.
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Yes, I well remember during the IRA bombing campaigns in the 70s and 80s the bomb squad disposing of suspiciously parked cars.
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His boasts to his mates down the pub have certainly come true. That'll teach him to tell them that it goes like a bomb ;o)
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Quite Dave...after all they had him....um....bang to rights.....
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His boasts to his mates down the pub have certainly come true. That'll teach him to tell them that it goes like a bomb ;o)
I was going to say something similar...only the terminology would have been 'bag of nails'. I censured myself...but...if you've tested the water.
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I somehow hope he doesn't get compo. :-(
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I know he didn't expect the bomb squad to do controlled explosions. But did he assume his car would still be on double yellow lines near 10 Downing Street after a few hours? They'd have taken it away at least. If he'd walked away, determined an identity then it would have cost him a lot of money.
Was his engagement so important he thought - well if I park it here I won't have to pay because the bomb squad will blow it up? Maybe it had a mechanical defect and out of warranty :-)
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Looks like his insurance won't pay out...
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If he'd walked away, determined an identity then it would have cost him a lot of money.
Sorry, don't understand?
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Sorry I posted quickly - cooking the evening meal. Somehow I edited it badly.
I meant if he'd walked away (after parking on double yellows) and they had worked out it was not a terrorist attempt after checking car/identity, then they'd have clamped the car and then lifted it. Thus costing a lot of money to get it back. Not as much as destroying the car mind.
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It would be interesting to know whether there were may other cars parked there; if so, perhaps his only "mistake" was the running? Or leaving it until 2am?
As someone who often hurries this would be rather a worry. Though I don't, as a rule, park on double yellows.
I guess the people who deal with this sort of thing develop a sense of what is 'ordinary' and what isn't, quite - a bit like the people who do customs searches. But of course HMRC find quite a lot of contraband, whereas there aren't many actual bombs to help develop the special powers.
I wish they'd blow up a few cars parked illicitly in the pick up, sprog and disabled areas at Tesco. That'd learn 'em.
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Funilly enough I was walking along this stretch of road on Saturday - there was a 54 reg Audi A3 being dragged onto a low loader leaving a very expensive pool of oil on the road .
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I somehow hope he doesn't get compo. :-(
tinyurl.com/c33bd7 ?
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Its a damned pitty they didn't do a controlled explosion of an Iveco van parked in a busy Manchester city centre shopping street in June 1996. It was parked illegally and if it was now there is no way they would have get away with it, if cars park illegally in certain places in Manchester city centre they get crane lifted away, seen it happen a couple of times now.
However nobody thought to think why is this van parked illegally been there for several hours.
At around 11:00 the biggest bomb in main land Britain went off causing damage to around 1/3 of the city centre. It took many many years to repair the damage but we have a much better city centre now.
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Its a damned pity they didn't do a controlled explosion of an Iveco van parked in a busy Manchester city centre shopping street in June 1996.
Priorities, Rattle, Brown and his cronies don't work in central Manchester.
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It was John Major at the time :). As I said now the van would have been investigated (in fact it is pedestrianised now anyway) but back then they probably just didn't think anything of it, even though it was just three years after the IRA blew up Warrington which is only 15 miles away :(
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Not everyone is paranoid all the time, or up to speed on security matters like us. I think you are all being a bit severe with the poor hot Honda owner.
It's a weekend. How does anyone know he knew he was sixty or seventy yards from the garden wall of number ten at the very nearest? He's looking for a parker within a brisk run of where he's going. He doesn't, er, remember it's remembrance day tomorrow. He leaps out of his car and rushes off to wherever he's going. Comes back and finds what he finds.
How would you like it?
He must have wished he had listened to that little voice saying it wasn't perhaps the best place to leave the car. I feel a bit sorry for him personally.
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I don't get the "No payout" thing. If I park my car/van illegally and it gets nicked will I not get paid out?
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...I don't get the "No payout" thing....
Me neither, unless the reference is to the police not paying out.
As I understand it, police forces do not have insurance, so if a patrol crashes into your car, technically, you have to claim from the chief constable.
I think it works like insurance, though.
Would this guy's fully comp policy pay out, assuming he has one?
At one time I'd have said 'yes', but claims seem to be refused more and more these days.
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It strikes me that this driver is totally ignorant about double yellow lines, honestly believes the streets of London at night are a free unlimited parking space reserved exclusively for him and has never heard of Enniskillen or Horse Guards Parade.
I'd give him a tenner for scrap metal, a compulsory UK citizenship test, and a driving ban of at least ten years for starters.
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Double yellow lines - cant you park legally if the owner of Blue Badge? Providing not dangerous. Or do double yellow lines have a different meaning when close to sensitive bulidings?
Although in this case he did run off:)
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Rattle. You may be too young to remember, but there is a very strong school of thought that the IRA did Manchester a huge favour.
Nobody was killed. And Manchester City Centre received a 0.7bn makeover, with over 50% of that cost being funded by insurance.
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It is likely that the security forces were on high alert for something just like this considering the recent shooting incidents in NI.
Deserves all he got and does not deserve a payout as his actions caused the problem. Anyone remember the pipe bomb attack on downing street?
I too was 1/4 mile from an IRA bomb (in Derby) and similarly close to an IRA shooting.
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When a real bomb goes off it often does considerable damage over a wide area, demolishing buildings and blowing out windows hundreds of yards away, often leaving a huge crater in the road.
When the police did their controlled explosion, they presumably anticipated that similar might have happened if this had turned out to contain a real bomb?
Did they evacuate buildings so far away this time? Turn off services such as gas mains?
Or were they perhaps taking a small gamble that it would not be a real one?
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Anyone remember the pipe bomb attack on downing street?
Yes. Went to it, the call interrupted my breakfast. It was freezing as it had started snowing. The IRA did well with that one, they were unlucky not to be more succesful.
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>>they were unlucky not to be more succesful.<<
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Edited by Pugugly on 26/11/2009 at 17:20
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Oh ho ho ho.
I can remember people claiming to be pleased when the IRA bombed the Brighton hotel and nearly got Mrs Thatcher. I wasn't at all keen on the lady myself, but I didn't even pretend to be pleased for the sake of a joke. That stuff isn't funny, it's very very nasty and destructive of much more than the lives of one or two politicians or their wives or innocent bystanders.
Removed the offensive comment you are commenting on Lud - but I've left your comment in tact
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"I wasn't at all keen on the lady myself"
I met her when I did some design work for the launch of The Downing Street Years
She told me nobody would ever take me seriously if I went to work in jeans.
And she was right.
(I was plastered at the time, as there was a free bar)
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Depends which industry you work in and the quality of your jeans......If I turned up in a suit everyone would think I was in mourning.
I have to park ( legally ) near Kings Cross on and off for a couple of days including an overnight next week. Nightmare.
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...I have to park ( legally ) near Kings Cross...
Don't go cruising around slowly looking for a space, and on no account lower the nearside window. :)
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