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Glad no one was hurt and no metal bent ON. I am not a qualified truck driver but I do notice that some of the really big ones need to be in the "wrong" lane to get a swing at some smaller roundabouts. I tend to hang back if in doubt.
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Thanks Humph. This was a full sized "over motorway junction roundabout", I have driven these sized trucks and the lanes are marked and wide enough not to need to use more than one lane. I think he just entered the roundabout in the wrong lane, poor planning. I have taught SWMBO never to get alongside trucks on roundabouts and always to give them room, must be the only time she has taken any notice of what I say.
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Thanks all, appreciate all that but what I meant was signalling right during the exit manoeuvre, rather than left.
FTF
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I have seen drivers do that, more dangerous are the ones who indicate left and continue around the roundabout.
Edited by Old Navy on 28/10/2009 at 19:42
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I have seen drivers do that more dangerous are the ones who indicate left and continue around the roundabout.
I saw yet another unbelievable roundabout antic yesterday on the Hogarth Roundabout at Chiswick.
I was on the inside lane, of two. approaching the lights and intending as are virtually all vehicles not taking the first exit. A Yaris was in front of me and a learner in front of him.
The lights had been green for a while and i guessed we would not make it into the roundabout on that phase. The idiot in front at the last moment with of course no signals switched into the right lane, went past the learner and then cut acrross the front of the learner and went left at the first exit..
Well done to the learner and instructr as a nasty T bone was avoided.
I wonder what the instructor said to the pupil?
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Thanks all appreciate all that but what I meant was signalling right during the exit manoeuvre rather than left. FTF
I can't say I've noticed an increase. Yes, it is wrong!
Most indicators would cancel when exiting, wouldn't they? That's highly prevalent, and could be getting worse.
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signalling right during the exit manoeuvre rather than left.
I allways assumed this was lazy rather than not knowing what to signal, ie taking the 3 o'clock exit so join signaling right and don't bother to flick it over to left.
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SWMBO wrote off an old Fiat because shortly after leaving a roundabout a car pulled out of a junction to her left where she was going straight on, it appears her left indicator was flashing.
From the roundabout to the junction the road maintained a slight LH curve and we assume this was what prevented the indicators from cancelling.
The internal noise of the car and position of the wheel prevented her being aware the indicators hadn't cancelled.
Fortunately no-one was hurt. Our insurers held us not to blame and it didn't affect our premiums. I don't know if we'd be so lucky nowadays.
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I am not a qualifiedtruck driver but I do notice that some of the really big ones need to be in the "wrong" lane to get a swing at some smaller roundabouts. I tend to hang back if in doubt.
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Good sense Humph. Most drivers do that but you always get one idiot who's in a hurry.
Same logic applies when a truck's indicating left; many drivers forget that it might have to move outwards into the crown of the road in order to get round the corner.
In response to the OP; many drivers round this area (West Wales) do not seem to use indicators at all. My theory is that they all know each others' business (not as daft as it sounds) so therefore they also know where everyone lives and where they might be going on a particular day, making the use of direction indicators superfluous! ;-)
I think it was Dylan Thomas who said that the Welsh "pray on their knees and prey on their neighbours".
Edited by Harleyman on 28/10/2009 at 20:31
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Pray on their knees on Sunday and prey on their neighbours the rest of the week.
I find some roundabouts very confusing now due to 'the planners ' Often you get in the correct lane for your destination to find you're not in it at the next exit, having to make an unexpected lane change...then again at the next exit. Many around Manchester do that and I even avoid some of them now and go another way .
I travelled up a dual carriageway somewhere with 4 simple roundabouts. The lane markings were not consistent at them all, some lane 1s were straight on/left, some left turn only and some lane 2s were straight on/right or right turn only. Trouble was, the directions were painted on the road and were invariably under the cars in front of you.....unseen !
Ted
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Trouble was the directions
were painted on the road and were invariably under the cars in front of you.....unseen
Road planners don't actually drive cars. They never seem to realise that if they paint vital information on the road then motorists can't read it in traffic, just when it is most needed. On a clear road getting in the right lane doesn't matter.
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In Stevenage there are lots of roundabouts so for me its a regular occurrence that people either do not indicate (every other driver has to mind read which exit they plan to use) or cut across lanes on roundabouts.
Had one numpty this morning (funny enough a nerb in a BMW) who thought I didn't exist and cut across me on the roundabout.
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Agree that lane signing is a problem. We have situations where two adjacent lanes on the R/B both have straight on and turn right lane markings. Consequently the person on the left could be continuing around the R/B but the person on the right is taking the exit. In my experience if the crunch of metal is avoided it is normally by the person on the right being on the ball, but situation is the cause of many scrapes and flies in the face of give way to the right on R/B's
Whatever the rights and wrongs there is IMHO, a need for a clear understanding of how indicators should be used at R/B's and the reason for my original question.
Regards.
FTF
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>> Trouble was the directions were painted on the road and were invariably under the cars in front of you.....unseen
Absolutely! Something I have moaned about for years. When approaching an unfamiliar complex roundabout, you want to know what lane to get into well in advance. Also, where there are lanes marked around the roundabout, it is sometimes unclear which one you should be in and even if you get into the correct one as you enter, good chance you won't be by the time you get half way round.
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The existance of traffic lights on roundabouts (unfortunatley pioneered in Norwich 25 year ago) makes their use much more difficult as the stop/start driving negates the smooth flow that a roundabout is meant to achieve. Finding yourself in a the wrong lane on a large complex roundabout with traffic lights can be a nightmare.
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