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Another day and another death by dangerous....
This time it's three years.
Edited by Dynamic Dave on 14/08/2009 at 01:22
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I'm struggling, ifithelps, to understand how starting this thread is going to help anyone.
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Nor me - are we going round in circles again ?
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Well if it can make one person out there think a little after reading then it's worthwhile imo
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Do we really have to continually dissect peoples loss and grief on a Forum, like vultures circling , when these events are already plastered over newspapers and repeated ever 15 minutes on television news?
Edited by oilrag on 13/08/2009 at 09:55
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Interesting! This thread was locked and has now been unlocked- quite rightly. This seems to be a matter relating to motoring: driving and killing while exceedingly drunk. The OP just pointed it out to those who, like me, had not heard of this particular case. It seems to me that the Publican has a lot to answer for, although this does not seem to have been mentioned before.
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"It seems to me that the Publican has a lot to answer for"
Are you expecting the licensee to check how the customers arrive (car, bike bus etc) and ensure that each only imbibes enough to be safe/legal to use that same transport home?
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Not exactly what I would call an 'accident'.
She deliberately drove whilst plastered - that was only going to end in tears. Someone tragically died, but it could have been any innocent party that she encountered on the way home.
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'Do you expect the publican to check' etc
Yes. They were parked at the pub. It's impossible to know for sure, but the chances are they were well known at the pub, and this is just another case of 'passing by on the other side' and 'nothing to do with me guv'. My understanding is that publicans do have some responsibilities beyond allowing customers to pour alcohol down until they fall over or run out of money to pay. The pub sold them the alcohol, and it appears they were there for hours. The woman looks about 60, so this heavy drinking is (was) probably a regular occurence. It's not a matter of checking- they probably knew.
Edited by William Stevenson on 13/08/2009 at 14:52
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So people don't have to take responsibility for their own actions-there's always someone else to blame-next thing they'll be suing the landlord for compensation!!Thank goodness it was not one of my children/grandchildren that got killed as she drove home!!!!!!!!!!
Edited by Webmaster on 14/08/2009 at 01:37
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Poor woman. She will have to live with this forever.
Poorer man. He won't.
Poorest children. They lose BOTH their parents - one dead; the other to gaol. These children will end up as young offenders, chances are. (I am assuming that as they had been together for 8 years, and had children, they have young children.)
Suspended sentence IMO, for a very long time indeed. A deferred sentence would be even better - deferred until the children reach 18.
It will cost us immeasurably to send her to gaol. But she certainly needs to go down at some point.
Edited by Mapmaker on 13/08/2009 at 17:04
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>>These >> children will end up as young offenders chances are. (I am assuming that as they >>had been together for 8 years and had children they have young children.)
I think the parents already had that in mind as carrer choices for their kids. WHo was looking after them when the parents were lolling around in a drunken stupour in a pub carpark?
It will cost us immeasurably to send her to gaol. But she certainly needs to go down at some point.
At least the benefit money will go the kids rather than the pub.
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The children will be to another father. Her eldest is probably 20 or more. Of course she should go to prison- the alternative is that anyone who says they didn't mean to do it, gets off with pretend community service. In any case she'll be out after only a year or two- is your dead relative not even worth that? If she stayed out the heavy drinking would continue; at least that's a little more difficult inside. At least, I hope it is.
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Bit of stereotyping going on here I think.
These unfortunate, none-too-bright people drank far too much, as many do, and suffered a sort of silly freak personal tragedy as a result. The court has been quite severe.
There seems no particular reason to speculate about their private lives or the paternity of their children. There's somethinbg a bit unpleasant about it.
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Is there no compulsion to close this thread yet?
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Yes, so I have. If only for the reason that too many conclusions being jumped to and assumptions being made.
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