01 2.0 Headlight Kick Up caused MOT failure - Neel
Hi,

I just had to change the near side headlight of my peugeot 307 because the old one's bracket had broken so it was not attached properly. Now the people at the MOT garage have said (after £60 labour) that there is no kick up on the headlight (ie the beam is flat). Are they correct in that it cannot therefore pass the MOT?

Any answers/suggestions would be appreciated!

Neel
01 2.0 Headlight Kick Up caused MOT failure - bell boy
yes they are correct
have you got a decent bulb in that sits in the holding properly? as this will cause no kick up
(your garage should know this) or it could be a case that you got your headlight off a dubious source and therefore its never going to be right
01 2.0 Headlight Kick Up caused MOT failure - bathtub tom
Perhaps not quite so clear:

www.motuk.co.uk/manual_160.htm

I need to read it when I'm less tired.
01 2.0 Headlight Kick Up caused MOT failure - Neel
Ok, thanks guys. I tried to change how the lightbulb sat in its holding but that doesn't seem to have helped.

I went on that site and it doesnt say anything about not having kick up as a reason for rejection - only if it kicks up to the right, so going to have a read through it again later.

Thanks again

01 2.0 Headlight Kick Up caused MOT failure - DinUK

What about all these continental imports, where people have just masked off the correct section so there is no kick up to the wrong side, which of course means no kick up at all.

They pass the MOT without problem, well at least mine did 10 years ago...

DinUK
01 2.0 Headlight Kick Up caused MOT failure - Dave N
The regs just say that it mustn't dazzle, and even covers LHD lights fitted with stickers.

You can pass with a KMH speedo also, as the rules only state you need to know your speed, and not what it's calibrated in. Could be in inches per year if you want.
01 2.0 Headlight Kick Up caused MOT failure - Hamsafar
Is there a small lever inside the lamp aperture to change between asymmetric and symmetric? Most Hellas have this. Many dubious sellers on ebay sell LHD headlamps from cheap markets and set them as symmetrical.
01 2.0 Headlight Kick Up caused MOT failure - Kevin
>Could be in inches per year if you want.

When I told a friend in Texas that I was bringing my car to the UK with me she asked if I'd need to get the speedo changed to kph.

I explained that the UK didn't use kph - we still used imperial units so I'd need to have it re-calibrated to furlongs per fortnight.

It took about 5 seconds before the penny dropped and she bruised my arm. We then spent the next ten minutes discussing how 'quaint' the term 'fortnight' was.

Kevin...
01 2.0 Headlight Kick Up caused MOT failure - topbloke
i have recently been on a refresher course and iirc no kick up is not reason for rejection, the mot inspectorate have a help line,However your argument should be with the manafacure/supplier of the headlight, i have fitted many headlamps in my years and only realy found that oem spec headlights give a correct pattan,Regards TB
01 2.0 Headlight Kick Up caused MOT failure - bathtub tom
She probably didn't understand leagues.

HALF a league, half a league,
Half a league onward,
All in the valley of Death
Rode the six hundred.
01 2.0 Headlight Kick Up caused MOT failure - o_ptic
Sorry for the late reply guys thought Id reply being a lighting engineer;

The kick up that you mention is a 15 degree gradient that is there for pedestrian and curb side illumination; it has measured values and is part of the headlamp beam.
The headlamp fitted to the 307 for your age of car is a Valeo unit which will be ECE reg 112 approved; you will need to verify that the lamp is genuine from the person/place where you purchased from or check that the approval marks and manufacturers name is on the lamp.
The manufacturer has a legal requirement to produce COP (conformity of production) lamps which is basically a lamp which meets the original regulation.
If your MOT station has failed you then its time to call the DOT; the equipment that the MOT station have is simply a crude aiming rig and does not measure intensity, glare or colour of light emitted. When the manufacturer approved the lamp they would have submitted samples to an approved test house (such as BSI or UTAC) who use calibrated equipment and bulbs ? the requirement for testing to approval standards.
Providing you have used an ECE reg 37 approved bulb (and I would personally use a Philips or Osram) then you have complied with the regulation.

I suspect that the MOT station wanted some extra beer money!

Steve