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MD, I heartily agree with all of that, well said!
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Seems Mrs gb did rather jump down the throat of this hapless functionary.
''Make the road bigger,'' she says, demonstrating a not very firm grasp of traffic management.
Shame he didn't reply: ''You could use the bus - or mover closer to work."
Like it or not, traffic surveys are one of the things used by the Highways Agency to determine future road building policy.
Not taking part is like not voting.
And being rude to someone who can't answer back is not clever at all.
Edited by ifithelps on 05/07/2009 at 09:41
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Shame he didn't reply: ''You could use the bus - or mover closer to work."
Sounds like the Green Party talking there. They seem to want to limit movement of people/traffic.
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....Sounds like the Green Party talking there....
ND,
Not at all, I just think one rude, fatuous remark deserves another.
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Not at all I just think one rude fatuous remark deserves another.
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Not a problem, but it still sounds like an advert for the Green Party!
And I have a problem moving closer to work or using public transport.
1. There is no public transport, except the train, which comes within 4 miles of my gaff.
2. Being self employed, I dont know where I will be working two days in advance so wouldnt know where to move to :)
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had this happen to me the other week at bolney in w/sussex,i just pointed to the bt openreach logo on side of van and said as i had signed the official secrets act 30 odd years ago i could not answer any questions.at least it got a smile from the traffic cop in attendance.
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Why are all these things done and run by Jerks who have never had to turn Tuppence into Threepence. Ruddy idealists the lot of them. Then after several committees they embark on a scheme and then change midway or don't think far enough ahead from the start. Little people in little jobs. Sack ALL Politicians and give the job/s to those who have turned Tuppence into Half a Crown.
Give me strength cos I've nearly run out of Hobgoblin!!
Best regards..............Martin.
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Give me strength cos I've nearly run out of Hobgoblin!! Best regards..............Martin.
I'm on the 6X - plenty left.
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I'm on the 6X - plenty left.
Sorry Madux. I didn't give you the full story in case you lot decided to come round. Hobgoblin nearly expired, but then a case from O'Hanlons (mixed) and some Marston's Burton.
I'll do my best, but the Son-in-Law to be is here for dinner and he can guzzle if one doesn't keep an eye.
Have a pleasant Sunday and Bottoms up..................MD
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He he, seems opinion is divided here which is a good thing.
I'm not going to defend SWMBO, she hardly needs me for that as many a big bully has found to their cost over the years..;)
The stretch of road i'm referring to is a section of A road designed and built many years ago, little has changed with it since i've been using it since '73m except the major industrial town B She travels to every day has quadrupled in size especially following enterprise zone status some years back.
Once you are past this town the 2 way A road can cope very easily even at the heaviest peak time.
Why it needs so much time and money to be directed at something so blindingly obvious is beyond me, except it does keep an awful lot of people doing something apparently useful (beats the hell out of a days work), and it seems some here are convinced it's important work as their replies have shown.
Hmm...wonder if i can get a job sitting in my car on the verge wearing the obligatory hi viz counting vehicles when i'm retired?
There have been promises of a second route for years, but as with most of these things they are announced by some rising star for some free publicity and never happen.
I have little faith in the results of such census surveys, i daresay something similar resulted in the M6/A14 junction where a route of national importance goes into a single lane Southbound resulting in chaos and the deaths of many poor souls over the years.
(whoever is responsible for that junction should be doing time)
Locally we now have traffic light controlled roundabouts on the main road, where it ran fine before queuing for no one at all hours of the day and night result.
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Not taking part is like not voting.
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Not quite. I don't think people chained themselves to railings or threw eggs at ministers in order to secure the right to take part in traffic surveys.
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These censae (censuses?!) seem to only prove the bleeding obvious. Rubbish, poorly maintained roads are busier a)in te morning and b) in the evening
In the North East last week we were being monitored by an absolute army of those little spy cameras on poles - on every bridge and intersection.
What benefit will they bring? Absolutely none. The data collected will simply be used to prove the latest half cocked theory about traffic, or simply used to push another toll/tax through.
In a years time some beared, leather-patch-on-jacket-elbow'd professor will appear on the local news informing us, that we are yet again at traffic meltdown status and tolling is the only way forward.
And now I've been driving for 25 years I simply hear 'blah blah blah' I still have to go to work on Monday. Its 30 miles and theres no viable public transport option.
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Girly question:
There are quite a few double wires laid across roads around here... connected to a box and tied around a lamp post - the wires are tacked down to the road. Are these to count the amount of traffic? Or some strange council thing?
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Are these to count the amount of traffic? Or some strange council thing?
I would have thought they would get a false reading when a lorry or bus with twin rear axles drives over them.
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Aly, they can be to monitor speeds on that stretch of road, and if the percentage is high then a speed trap will be set up as some date in the future. I asked a police chap wielding a speed-gun on a road with little traffic at that time.
Edited by deepwith on 05/07/2009 at 22:30
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There are quite a few double wires laid across roads around here..Are these to count the amount of traffic?
Yes. They also tell which direction you are going by which wire triggers first and your speed by the time intervals between them.
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>>It's my way of hitting back.
I sometimes have a bit of sport with the "traffic monitoring" cars parked up on verges by junctions around here: I don't make eye contact, but suspect they must notice when I've gone past the same way a few times, when they are expecting the traffic to go and fro...
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...Not quite. I don't think people chained themselves to railings or threw eggs at ministers in order to secure the right to take part in traffic surveys...
I don't see what the fight for universal suffrage has to do with it.
Traffic surveys play a part in forming transport policy, so you may as well contribute.
Unless you genuinely couldn't care less about the transport infrastructure in your area.
That's possible, but unlikely for a regular contributor to a motoring forum.
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Unless you genuinely couldn't care less about the transport infrastructure in your area.
At times there is little point in caring as it is highly unlikely that any rational input from us Peasants would be taken into consideration anyway. Our sole purpose it to pay tax to keep those who will not!!
Goodnight all...........M
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I don't see what the fight for universal suffrage has to do with it. >>
It doesn't, but you said not answering a traffic survey was like not voting.
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>Like it or not, traffic surveys are one of the things used by the Highways Agency to
>determine future road building policy.
Yeah, right!
From a rival broadsheet in Dec. 2008:
"The only road approved by Geoff Hoon, the transport secretary, under a £400m highway improvement scheme is adjacent to his constituency, it has emerged. A new £100m section of the A46 will run alongside Hoon?s Ashfield constituency. The remaining £300m will be spent on projects such as extra speed cameras."
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...The remaining £300m will be spent on projects such as extra speed cameras."....
Kevin,
How do you imagine the projects for the remaining £300m were identified?
Using information the Highways Agency had to hand which includes, in some small way, the results of surveys.
I'm not saying the system is right, wrong or anything else, just pointing out how it works.
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Using information the Highways Agency had to hand which includes in some small way the results of surveys.
I, you, he, she could sit at the side of a road and see traffic volumes WITHOUT stopping folk trying to earn a crust, get to hospital appointments etc etc etc. They, the 'powers' that be don't need our opinions. They count for nowt.
Morning...............M
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..I, you, he, she could sit at the side of a road and see traffic volumes WITHOUT stopping folk trying to earn a crust...
Some surveys are done simply by someone sat beside the road counting moving metal.
The ones where they stop the driver are generally to ask where you've come from and where you are going.
This can build a picture of the types of journey a road is used for, rather than simple volume.
As regards our opinions counting for nowt, I'm sure you will know of by-passes which have been built partly as a result of local pressure, or at least built sooner.
Edited by ifithelps on 06/07/2009 at 09:49
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