a relative of mine, is thinking of buying one of these; '09' plate, very low miles on a very good deal via another relative (long story)...and has asked me my opinion before they dive in
TBH I don't really know what to say as my own thoughts have come to the forefront.... and i'm trying desperately to be objective and see it from their perspective.
I've looked up various reviews, inc obviously HJ's...and found out they're virtually Daihatsu's with Toyota engines, which isn't a bad thing.
The new owner would be; 66 year old female driver, does 5,000 local miles per year in a rural area, not got much cash flow, might well keep it for the rest of their driving career. Current car is 2.0 petrol Mondeo '02' plate, which isn't really necessary for the mileage/usage.
anyone on here got one, driven one? anyone got an informed opinion that might be helpful?
if anyone thinks 'dreadful, plastic box', then you'd be echoing my own views..i'm trying to go beyond those...:-)
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She may still be driving it in 15+ years time perhaps, Westpig?
If so I would be looking to see if it has one of those 6yr non galvanised body warranties and in particular at spares prices. Is it going to be popular enough to source a plentiful supply of parts from the trade and from scrapyards?
Perudua/diahatsu just don`t feature as accident damaged cars in the breaker I visit.
I once walked into a breakers and out again with a full drivers door, fully fitted, correct colour (gambia Red) and it saved me a fortune in repairing SWMBO`s door damaged 10 yr old Polo.
For me, that breakers yard potential for (future) spares, is the single most essential point in any car I buy new. Hence popular mainstream models.
Edited by oilrag on 30/06/2009 at 13:30
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If its a good deal on offer then why not. It will be a lot cheaper to run than the mondeo and the money saved can be spent on other nice things to compensate for driving around in a plastic box.
If your not fussy or a badge snob I reckon they are probably a great car for the ocassional use - nipping down to the shops, that kind of thing.
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My car is an un-loved depreciating lump of mechanicals! I don't care what it looks like as I can't see it when I am driving it. I get it properly serviced and I drive it - that's it! I do agree with the point of view re spares availibity in future and BTW where will the new owner's nearest dealer be?
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where will the new owner's nearest dealer be?
i've checked that...it's about 30 miles away, although a pig of a journey...i suspect servicing would be local mechanic, with genuine parts... and argue if there is problem with a warranty claim
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Perodua have a fairly tenuous presence in the UK - IIRC, their UK distributor only sold a few hundred cars last year and has a pretty sparse dealer network. On the other hand, with the Myvi, you do have Daihatsu to fall back on...
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For space, comfort, repairability the Mondeo would seem hard to beat. Perhaps the best thing you could advise would be 'do nothing'. An 02-plated petrol Mondeo must be worth much more to the incumbent than as a sale one would have thought.
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Crashes on country roads can be pretty nasty. The bigger the car, the better, so I'd suggest sticking with the Mondeo, which can't be worth more than £2k now, but has a good five years in it if given basic servicing on a regular basis.
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According to parkers fuel cost calculator the change of car would save approx £160 a year in fuel (based on 105p/litre)
I doubt Westpigs relative is paying much for insurance, low annual milage, 66, female, rural location.
Road tax will be £125 a year cheaper.
So an annual saving of just short of £300 It will be along time before that pays for itself.
That all combined with the cheap parts for fords, and any mechanic can fix them with their eyes closed I would be inclined to say stick with the mondeo.
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I would advise them to keep the Mondeo unless they really need something that's easy to park. I can't believe with such a low annual mileage there would be any difference in running costs. It's basically depreciation vs. potential repair bills.
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I think she ought to shop around and see what sort of deals are available on a Daihatsu Sirion (very similar) or a Hyundai i10 (much lauded by HJ and others), or perhaps a C1/107/Aygo. Which of these to go for might depend on which dealers are local. Also - how long can Perodua survive in the UK? I can't believe that there are enough sales here for the importer to be making any money.
I presume that - while financially it might make sense to hang on to the Mondeo - she wants a new car and feels that she can afford it now. The Mondeo could well get expensive (repairs) in the next few years.
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brake discs for these things are $95 each plus pads
this is a serviceable article
hate to think how much a failed component would be like abs pump
its a throwaway car it will never last 15 years
i would rather have a mondeo
is this thing 3 pot too?
if it is tell them to have a drive of it as a 3 pot corsa is a rolls royce in comparison
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There were quite a few around in Malaysia last Christmas. The word was they are all right. Mostly new cars down there. People like their motors.
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A look at www.perodua-uk.com/ suggests to me that Perodua is not a brand that has had much investment. The website has been put together on the cheap and badly.
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The website has been put together on the cheap and badly.
Wow, that website really is bad! Good job they are in the car business and not web design :)
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Then again, most of their customers won't have an internet connection.....
Edited by oldnotbold on 30/06/2009 at 23:07
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Then again most of their customers won't have an internet connection..... >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> they might have at 2.35 pm tuesday
the usual?
yes please
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It's basically the same as a 1.3 Daihatsu Sirion. My mother has the Sirion and it's a fantastic car with loads of internal space and dead easy to drive.
see the What Car reader review link for the Sirion which confirms just how highly people regard these cars:-
www.whatcar.com/car-reviews/daihatsu/sirion-hatchb.../
25424-5
{link edited, no clickable links to one of our competitors please}
Edited by Dynamic Dave on 01/07/2009 at 01:25
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Just back off honeymoon so only just got to this thread. It is basically a Sirion, yes, but in a basic way and as someone who spent quite some time working out the differences, actually its not as good value as it first appears as it is down on spec, rust prevention nor does it have the updates that the Sirion got in 2008, so its a bit old news in comparison and they do feel somewhat different. If you can secure a good price on a Sirion, its a better choice and yes, you can secure good prices on them.
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Congratulations, Stu - I hope married life suits you well. Remember - a married man's place is in the wrong....
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I forget where I first heard this but congratulations as well !
" A woman worries about her future until she is married. A man never worries about his future until he is..."
;-)
Different in your case I know, only kidding. All the best Stu.
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I enjoyed the very best of Devon for the last week, thoroughly enjoyed Torquay and Salcombe especially, the South West never gets old for me :-)
On a car related note, our Sirion did 1000 miles in 6 days and performed faultlessly as ever, only demerit was some twit at Paighton Zoo opening their car door on ours - misses was none too happy!
Thanks folks, its my second bite at marriage, this ones a keeper though - our first day back after honeymoon she accompanied me to the Hollowell Steam Rally - they do not come any better than that!
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Thread drift alert!
Humph, was that your email quoted in todays HJ column in the paper - getting rid of a Signum via suresell?
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The Myvi is a licence produced Daihatsu Sirion with only the 1.3 litre engine option. The Sirion is also sold as a re-badged Subaru Justy* (with only the 1.0 litre engine option).
As Toyota have owned a majority stake in Daihatsu for years - the 1.3 engine is largely the same as that used until recently in the Yaris (in actual fact I was informed by someone on the Daihatsu motor show stand a few years ago that the first Yaris was originally a Daihatsu design that Toyota took for its own). Toyota also own a stake in Subaru* (purchased from GM).
The Sirion seems the best package of the three. Although it is more expensive than the Myvi(£ 8300 for the 1 litre and £ 8800 for the 1.3), it has a five year 100,000 mile warranty/five year roadside assistance package.
Also as Daihatsu is more established in this country they are less likely to be affected by the recession than the small importer of Perodua. I think they were the first Japanese manufacturer to import cars into the UK.
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thank you for all your input...there is no real hurry for the lady to make a decision. She's going to drive it first and see how she gets on and whether she likes it. The Mondeo has had a few niggly things that have needed doing to it (most recently a broken spring and a wheel bearing) and from memory it has 80 or 90,000 miles on it.
Personally, it would be the Mondeo every time...but it's not me. I suspect the Myvi would be the better option for her circumstances and with less than 1,000 miles on the clock, it would be like brand new.
She was less than impressed at the retrospective Road fund Licence hit last year, so that might be a consideration for the future i.e. will there be any more hits from that area?
Spares is a concern with a small importer, but if the Myvi is mostly Daihatsu bodywork and Toyota engine, then that's not the worry it could be.
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I was talking to my neighbour yesterday (I did the same last year :)
He has the Perodua franchise and reckons he only makes around £300 per car sale on these critters whereas he also specialises in 2nd hand MX5's and makes more out of selling those!
Apart from Malaysia where they are made, the Perodua is only sold in the UK.
He says (like others have stated) "There are no bad cars these days" ... obviously referring to new cars.
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>>it has a five year 100,000 mile warranty/five year roadside assistance package. <<
Its unlimited mileage, not 100,000 miles.
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