Newly elected Tory boss of Surrey CC has promised to increase the number of speed cameras. When many forward thinking authorities are taking them down.
They announced a £1m inititaive to tackle speeding on the county's roads, which will be launched in September. As well as extra cameras, speed monitoring groups will be set up. Their aim is to enforce and educate drivers by introducing more equipment and community "SpeedWatch" schemes.
If you live or drive through Surrey, you've been warned.
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Spood,
Thanks for the info but why is this of concern to any motorist who deserves the privilege of using our road system.
Stick to the speed limit and you will have no problem.
You may even be called a mimser. But hey, mimse on and keep your licence clean, your insurance premiums low, and death off your bonnet.
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Oh for heaven's sake.
Another person who thinks he's got a God-given right to get in everyone's way well below the ridiculous so called 'speed limit'.
A world of utter screamers, darlings. Puke.
Edited by Dynamic Dave on 29/06/2009 at 10:46
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The council in the part of Surrey I live in are (allegedly) so short of money I am surprised they can afford to shell out for any cameras.
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The article is in the Staines Informer, and from the horses mouth. They can't be that strapped for cash. Remember, the million or so they shell out will have a nice return in the way of fines. Speculate to accumulate! And its not your local surrey council, it's Surrey County Council.
Edited by spood on 27/06/2009 at 01:42
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Sir Cliff breaks the first law in his life, speeding 51mph in a 50 zone in his merc outside his Surrey Mansion. I can see the headlines in the Daily Saturn tabloid now. Sir Elton will then get the headlines the next day for doing 40.5mph in a 40 zone.
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The ACPO guidelines recommend an allowance of 10% above the posted limit plus 2 mph. www.speedlimit.org.uk/faq.html
Edited by Pugugly on 27/06/2009 at 08:44
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I didn't know about this until friend passed it on. It seems that following the UK Government's Freedom of Information Act you can now get access to ALL speed camera offences registered in the last 12 months. Every time your car goes past a speed camera, even 1mph over the set limit, it is registered and put on a database? You only get a ticket if you are way over the limit or, if you receive over 10 near misses, you will be classed as a serial offender and get a ticket the next time you go just over the limit.
This is why you hear of people being done for 34mph in a 30mph limit area, whilst others doing 39 do not. You can check what has been registered against your vehicle at the following web address: www.i-database.co.uk
Just enter your car registration. If there is any data on your vehicle you can click on the camera window to see a copy of the photograph.
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DON'T check on this site. (www.i-database.co.uk) It's a spoof.
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...DON'T check on this site. (www.i-database.co.uk) It's a spoof...
I did, and it is.
I'm a bit miffed a fellow Backroomer would seek to waste my time in this way.
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..DON'T check on this site. (www.i-database.co.uk) It's a spoof...
I'm a bit miffed a fellow Backroomer would seek to waste my time in this way.
A bit worrying that a journalist is propagating this sort of information - but on second thoughts maybe not surprising?
Or did he overlook the smiley ;)
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"Speculate to accumulate! "
Very true.
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It is a spoof - but perhaps evidence of humour in the Backroom !
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sorry BRs, unintentional spoof
PS Hacks are human too
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unintentional spoof
...and a good one - will be forwarding to SWMBO...
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...sorry BRs, unintentional spoof...
No worries, El Hacko.
I thought your post was 'straight', so I'm not surprised you were not deliberately trying to mislead us all.
I've met a few genuine conmen through the courts over the years and I've always thought the most convincing ones believed their own fairy stories, which made it easier for them to convince others.
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This is the sort of coprrespondance that peeves me on this site. Someone has the time to give a little information or start a genuine thread and then it's hijacked by members who can't be bothered to answer the opening post or offer any opinion. It happens so often on various subjects, I wonder sometimes what the MODS are doing to control the input on here.
Out of the 15 replies to the OP, 10 are nothing to do with the subject with even PU joining in. Either join the debate in the thread or start your own!
Rant over.
Edited by spood on 28/06/2009 at 00:09
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Well it made me laugh, thanks. :)
To those with no sense of humour, pomposity kills, usually with high blood pressure.
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Oh for heaven's sake. Another person who thinks he's got a God-given right to get in everyone's way well below the ridiculous so called 'speed limit'.
Where did the person say they wanted to travel at well below the speed limit?
I take it you are one of those people that enjoy tailgating and pushing other road users off the road as they are travelling at alot less than 90mph?
There is nothing wrong with travelling AT the speed limit.
In my old car I used to get 55mpg by sticking to the limits, push it to 85mph and consumption would drop to around 35mpg. No brainer really for those with brains.
Edited by Dynamic Dave on 29/06/2009 at 10:45
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I take it you are one of those people that enjoy tailgating and pushing other road users off the road as they are travelling at alot less than 90mph? There is nothing wrong with travelling AT the speed limit.
Isn't it a wee bit naughty to assume that just because someone disagrees with the current policy on speed limits, and enforcement, that they are automatically a very dangerous driver?
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Isn't it a wee bit naughty to assume that just because someone disagrees with the current policy on speed limits and enforcement that they are automatically a very dangerous driver?
I was only following the example set from the poster that I replied to.
According to Lud, because I respect the law I am a problem.
Think you should take his attitude up with him rather than pressing on mine. If sticking to the law is a crime then Im guilty, but not as guilty as others who think it is fine to break that law.
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NorfolkDriver, and Jon even more: if you are decent drivers who try to observe the law in a slightly obsessive way, then I am sure no one has anything to say against you.
The trouble is though that this haughty insistence on law-abiding behaviour strongly suggests a mimser cast of mind. Another problem, the real problem really, is that a lot of drivers can't tell the difference between incompetent mimsing and law-abiding driving. If you can, I apologise for my abstract rudeness.
If you can't, bad cess to you. You are far more dangerous than those you accuse of tailgating and 'pushing other cars off the road because they aren't doing 90', there being in my experience plenty of tailgaters who, when allowed past, reveal themselves as mimsers, but very few of the latter if any.
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I was only following the example set from the poster that I replied to. According to Lud because I respect the law I am a problem.
Okay, fair point. You did indeed reply in the same tone as Lud.
Still, the earlier poster stated:
"You may even be called a mimser. But hey, mimse on and keep your licence clean, your insurance premiums low, and death off your bonnet."
I'm afraid that such crass statements wind me up.
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Bad move that I'll also be affected by. There's a lot of Surrey folk on here isn't there :)
But, while this gets underway, a dangerous pothole in my road is getting bigger and bigger. It's not an ordinary pothole either. Imagine a circular hole, completely black because there's a large void underneath. About the size of a fridge.
On Thursday the opening was the size of a teacup. I've made an emergency call to the police this afternoon because someone or something's going to get horribly damaged.
"Thank you sir, We'll get someone to pour some temporary tarmac into it for the interim and get it repaired asap"
That was 2pm. The hole and its characteristics repoorted in Thursday. Nobody's looked at it, nobody's been near it.
I am NOT a police basher or hater of councils. But this proves to me what cameras are all about. Nothing to do with safety, that's what.
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...Out of the 15 replies to the OP, 10 are nothing to do with the subject...
And you've just made it 11.
As regards the mods doing something about it, I think we are moderated heavily enough already.
The number of speed cameras can increase in Surrey - we can do without an increase in rules and regulations on here.
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And you've just made it 11.
When I start threads on here, i'm quite happy for the thread to meander wherever it goes...just like it would if you were stood face to face having a conversation with people. That's natural and often inspires people to say things that are interesting. It would be awfully stilted if you could only rigidly anwer the question.
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This is probably because the government provides the lowest subsidy in the country to the surrey force and have actively taken money back from them. This in turn means thay are having to make real live warranted policeman redundant. Your chances of meeting a surrey copper on the road will be minimal in the coming 24 months.
the only way to prevent the surrey roads becoming lawless are cameras.
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As regards the mods doing something about it I think we are moderated heavily enough already.
we can do without an increase in rules and regulations on here.
I agree, although the Mods do have a hard job, and we as posters have to (try) and abide by the rules of the forum.
I personally dont see a problem with a little thread float, as already posted thats the way real life conversations work - major float should have a new thread.
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ith even PU joining in
Spood - the reason for that was in response to a e-mailed complaint about the database site - I was pointing out to members that there's no need to take things posted on this site as being literal. That's why I "joined in"..
Now back on topic please.
Rob - Moderator.
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Newly elected Tory boss of Surrey CC has promised to increase the number of speed cameras. When many forward thinking authorities are taking them down.
Sad. The near accidents I have seen, or been involved in (none my fault) have all had nothing to do with speed. One was someone jumping the lights long after they had gone red. Another was someone turning right forcing me to emergency brake to avoid a side on. Still, it is easier and more profitable to target speeding.
In the Hampshire area (Liphook, Bordon etc) all speed limits are being dropped to silly levels. Straight roads with good visibility are now 40mph. I know there have been some nasty accidents in the area (a colleague was involved in one, and another colleague saw a biker killed) and in the cases I know about speed was not a factor. In those cases the cause was dangerous driving e.g. overtaking and hitting a car head on. It seems to me that if a motorbiker totals himself due to taking silly risks, the nutters in charge reduce the limits and install cameras.
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It's particularly laughable that this speed crackdown should be in Surrey, home of the heaviest concentration of the worst, most mimsing drivers in the country outside St John's Wood (HJ and AE being among the honourable exceptions, I am sure).
Came through Surrey yesterday. Mile after mile at 40 - 45mph on easy, fastish 60mph A road... a line of waddling carphounds led by a recent Audi convertible. That's what these sanctimonious individuals mean when they point out to you in lordly fashion that it is just good sense to observe speed limits. They want to bully everyone into not minding when they waddle about in the way at these pathetic speeds, brake down hills, accelerate up them and do all the rest of the deplorable mimser repertoire.
I know it's good sense not to drive dangerously. I don't tailgate or feel furious at people who observe speed limits. I just despise pathetic waddling self-satisfied mimsers more than I can possibly say. They are everywhere; the authorities encourage them; and so do some people here, to my utter disgust.
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Lud - well done getting to 45 in your 60 zone. I did Fishguard to Aberystwyth a week ago. 60 miles, most of it NSL, on roads which barely see traffic, yet it took 2 HOURS!
Reason was two horrendous mimsers both of whom seemed to think 35 was excessive speed. The first one turned off after about 5 miles, the second one lead an ever lengthening queue for about 20 miles, the fool then entered a roundabout and not knowing where to go stopped dead and let cars out whilst he pondered where he should be going!
I saw loads of camera vans and police with sped guns whilst down there (6 in a week), but I'd rather they pull mimsers who fail to make adequate progress to at least allow me an opporutnity to get a ticket!!
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Lud! The Surrey borderes police let you in to the county of my residence?
I shall complain to my MP.
Not sure which of his two homes to contact tho, after all its 32 miles to the house of commons and that easily justifies a second home. :/ My MP's expenses would pay for three
warranted police constables.
Edited by Dynamic Dave on 29/06/2009 at 20:24
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I know it's good sense not to drive dangerously. I don't tailgate or feel furious at people who observe speed limits. I just despise pathetic waddling self-satisfied mimsers more than I can possibly say. They are everywhere; the authorities encourage them; and so do some people here to my utter disgust.
well said Lud, agree entirely.....i really don't mind being slow in the bits where all the danger is e.g. the built up area....but on the open bits, i'd like them to get a move on
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Part of the problem is the dying art of overtaking. I lose count of the number of times I am stuck behind one driver who may have a perfectly good reason for not going faster, who is then followed by two or more others in close convoy forming an impossible overtake obstacle.
If you don't want to hurry, fine, but leave a distance from the car in front so that those who do can get past you one at a time.
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Quite right cd. They follow each other in close queues, wandering from side to side, completely unaware of what is going on behind them, hypnotised by the back end of the car in front. Hardly anyone ever makes their car narrow and blips the nearside indicator at a good overtaking spot to show they know you are there and won't get in the way when you overtake. Only press-on drivers do it when they aren't pressing on, because only they recognise and respect others of their kind.
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Anyone bothered about being made late for work by a mimser should simply leave home a bit earlier. Simple
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The point is that real "mimsers" are not only slow but unaware of other vehicles behind them. You can drive slowly if you want to without holding others up.
Anyway leaving a little earlier for work gets you stuck behind a milk float instead:-)
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I have really given up on "getting there on time" (unless its really important - I mean personal like a show or a meal)
It causes far to much hastle, tension, bad driving (by me) etc etc
I now "leave on time"*. My arrival time is therefore when I get there. Like it or lump it.
*leave on time is a rational assumption of normal journey time plus a safety margin (10% or 6 minutes in every hour)
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It causes far to much hastle, tension, bad driving (by me) etc etc
Heh heh... you are a rational man and sympathetic figure AE.
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I've found that on the 2.5 hour drive to my wifes parents in Surrey, I don't arrive any sooner by hurtling along at 80+mph. I now stick to 70 or less and actually find I can use the inside lanes of the M11, M25 and M3 more effectively and in many cases, have it all to myself with the exception of trucks. I no longer have to put up with BMW X5 driver's sitting inches from my bumper in lane 3 (sorry to target Beemers but you know who you are!)
My fuel economy has improved and I no longer end my journey feeling stressed and sweaty palmed. My concentration can be better spent watching for other road users rather than trying to spot unmarked police cars or cameras.
Basically, driving within the limit or less (without being a mimser) equals better economy, safer driving and less stress for me and my passengers. I wish I'd tried it years ago.
;-)
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