Riles me too, but methinks we're fightin' a losing battle lads, and i have to agree it's usually a female of loose description that's the worst offender for sheer ignorance and poor attitude.
Is it so difficult to say 'excuse me' these days, i get odd looks when i do.
This is one of the reasons swmbo and i are becoming increasingly reclusive.
It has great benefit to the bank account though..;)
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parking at a petrol pump, then doing some shopping or ordering a latte...pig ignorant
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parking at a petrol pump then doing some shopping or ordering a latte...pig ignorant
Pet hate of mine too and the worst offenders are truck driver's, some of whom actually put the thing on break for 15 minutes whilst at the pumps, faff about, have a chat, have a coffee, have a leak and then when exactly 16 minutes are up miraculously reappear and drive away leaving queuing fuming late trucks trying to get some juice lined up all round the services.
Sometimes they arn't even filling up, but we have whole legions of truck drivers incapable of parking a truck, and those too bone idle, so stop at the pumps as they can drive in drive out....i'm not joking or exaggerating here, it's incredibly frustrating.
Normally proper lorry drivers fill up and then pull forward if room so the next chap can fill up whilst the first is paying up...established practice as the cashier has your pre authorised card and expect it, used to do this at some car filling stations in the better past.
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They can't even spend 50p to take a newspaper home...have to spread it out over the one you want.
Then there's the magazine reader, you're trying to find your copy of Caravan or Angler on the display and they all stand there like a reading room ! I have known SWMBO to ask them why don't they just buy one.
She held a door open for someone and got no ' thank you'. I heard her say ' That's all right ' to the woman. The Beast said 'What do you mean ? ' Wife retorted 'Oh, sorry, I thought you said thanks '
Ted
Edited by rtj70 on 31/05/2009 at 00:26
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I've got a lot of stories about other people's bad manners, and one or two about my own. But rudeness for one reason or another - ignorance, neurosis, anger - is so common that it's a bad idea to brood about it. I have the impression that standards of politeness are lower than they used to be, but that may be an illusion. Old geezers have been saying things were going to the dogs since the beginning of recorded history.
I would take issue though - very gently - with those who let the failure to acknowledge a minor courtesy - standing aside, holding a door open, allowing another car to go first - annoy them enough to react. A courtesy of that sort has to be gratuitous. Generally speaking people do acknowledge it, often a bit gracelessly. Failure to acknowledge it identifies that person as someone incapable of courtesy: in effect, an inferior. And commenting on the failure to acknowledge it risks lowering you to their level. In reality their lumpishness doesn't matter. You will continue to be polite, won't you? It's the way you're brought up.
It's a mistake to roll in the mud with one's inferiors, however intensely one may long to give them a flying kick. .
Edited by Lud on 31/05/2009 at 03:15
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Bad manners aplenty on this site is a reflection of society in general.
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When I first read the thread title, I thought for a minute that Buster Bloodvessel had been spotted shopping for car polish ;o)
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DD - Very good thanks for the laugh first thing on a Sunday morning!
Nice to turn the PC on, log in to HJ and see humour on here again!
Off to look at BBC News 24 now - that should wipe the laughter off my face...
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It's a mistake to roll in the mud with one's inferiors, however intensely one may long to give them a flying kick. . >>
There's an old saying: never wrestle in the mud with a pig. You will both get dirty, but the pig will enjoy it.
Have a good day.
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It's a mistake to roll in the mud with one's inferiors, however intensely one may long to give them a flying kick
On the button Lud - as you usually are on this sort of thing.
The only temptation I have is when confronted by poor manners is to attempt to inidicate their lack in some way - but that must be gracious, polite & often indirect. To do otherwise, is, as you say, rolling in the same mud.
The frustration, if not to say the Catch-22 - is that that distinction is, mostly, entirely lost on your protagonist.
My own favourites when confronted by an immovable object in a shop or similar, is to say in an almost apologetic manner - 'Excuse me, I'm a doctor...' - this works in a way I'm too poor in words to explain, but work it does. The prey is momentarily stunned, during which time you can seize your object of desire, or move to your chosen location.
For motoring situations, more circumspection & restraint is needed - no direct gestures or words, but a subtle & resigned shrug of dismay often hits the mark without allowing a hook for the ignorant to fester upon & justify their own poor conduct.
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>> It's a mistake to roll in the mud with one's inferiors however intensely one may long to give them a flying kick. . >>
Well, If I ever fail to acknowledge you, I'll say sorry now to get it out of the way. SORRY .In fact, I'll say it twice. SORRY.
There, phew! a couple of apologies racked up to be on the safe side.
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When I first read the thread title I thought for a minute that Buster Bloodvessel had been spotted shopping for car polish ;o)
Given the above and the title of this thread there's only one thing to say;
"Lip up fatty"
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First attempt at a `gripe` thread..
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The thing that gets me is waiting for your suitcase at the airport carousel. There is usually a yellow line or some such to indicate that you should stand behind it and then that way everybody gets a decent view of the approaching luggage, the chance to spot theirs and elbow room to step forward and wrestle it off. But what happens is that everybody crowds in, or they come and stand in front of you blocking your view and then toes get trodden on and people get barged about as cases and bags are grabbed. The only place where there is any sense of order that I have found is Geneva, inevitably, where a sense of calm seems to prevail. I was travelling to Italy the other day and I am afraid there was absolutely no sense at all particularly from one large,voluble family composed of what appeared to be overweight grannies and their husbands as they charged in to snatch what appeared to be the entire contents of their homes from the conveyor and then shouted at each other as they frantically rescued items that if omitted would have re-presented themselves for collection in two minutes. To step outside and into a waiting car was a great relief rather than having to travel on the bus with them and experience the same thing all over again.
MGs
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There used to be a very small newsagents in St.Anne's Square, Manchester. If you picked up a magazine and looked at it for more than 10 seconds, the old guy at the counter would say, "Shall I get you a bag for that?" and start opening a plastic bag.
To me, a mag is quite a pricey investment these days, so I do like to have a good look before I purchase, without treating Smiths like a library.
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There used to be a very small newsagents in St.Anne's Square Manchester. If you picked up a magazine and looked at it for more than 10 seconds the old guy at the counter would say "Shall I get you a bag for that?" and start opening a plastic bag. To me a mag is quite a pricey investment these days so I do like to have a good look before I purchase without treating Smiths like a library.
That happened to me at a small newsagents in Devon once. After the first "are you going to buy that or not" after 10 seconds reading, I vaguely recall getting through most of the magazines and newspapers in the shop before being asked to leave.
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in a newsagents abroad and noticed all the porn was on the bottom shelf and the motoring books were on the top shelf
weird?
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weird?
What's so weird about it bb? Wasn't it claimed that onanism (as well as smoking) stunted people's normal growth?
Those newsagents abroad are just realistic. They know what level their porn-punters are at. British ones are either deluded or sadistic. Or perhaps they just enjoy seeing human pyramids of scrofulous dwarves in their shops.
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they just all wear dirty macs in my town
well i think they just wear dirty macs as i keep away (dont look ethel)
they cant use the toilets anymore as all the ones round me have been bulldozed down
link coming...........
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Dogging is the preserve of more er.....liberal hetrosexual couples.
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Dogging is the preserve
Heh heh. You've done it again PU...
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The thing that gets me is waiting for your suitcase at the airport carousel.
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I was waiting at the end of the carousel and three of my priority bags arrived promptly but not the last one. Eventually I was alone at the carousel when a passing "customer service " staff member addressed me by name and said "Your bag is on the floor tucked around the corner at the start of the carousel. As it has a yellow label like the crew use I assume they removed it in error" and she went on her way.
Of course no one would condsider it manners to put the case back as they should not have touched it!
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Halfords this morning - customer knocks over some loose stuff from a shelf, walks on calmly as if nothings happened. I have a little pleasure from being overtly courteous to people including motorists - I make this effort especially on the bikes or when I was in my BMW as it made me feel better.
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Halfords this morning...realised that I too have become someone who needs to stand back somewhat, to be able to read all the writing on the polishes I was perusing...so therefore people were likely to have to walk in front of me. Maybe I will get those reading glasses.
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At the tip tis morning, Two empty cars blocking access, drivers chatting in the sunshine, totally oblivious to the queue of cars waiting to dump their rubbish. I was about to ask them to move when a member of staff appeared and said "If those cars are for the tip I will get them lifted with the digger." Effective statement!
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The staff at my local Morrisons look out for my approach each week.
They know which sections I regularly visit and place at least one member of staff plus a trolley in front of the items I wish to purchase.
If they do not have enough staff for this purpose, they find customers to position themselves at those points, reading every item of nutrition information on labels.
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Once had a car tailgate me for a good five minutes before we both turned off into a petrol station. I took my revenge by standing about half a millimetre behind him in the queue for the till.
When he finally turned round and asked me what the %&$# I was doing, I said, "Only tailgating you, like you were back on the road." He was speechless and the cashier was in hysterics.
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I was in sainsbury's store queing at the meat counter when an elderly women pushed passed me & proceeded to be served. I protested & she said " well i appeared just to be browsing " ! but she didn't offer to step back so i muttered " I supose as you will die before me your in more of a hurry " ! to which she then apologised & stepped back!
I cannot belive how this country is turning from one of the most polite to every one being so inconsiderate to others. I take my hat off to Bilboman.
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I don't like the way some supermarket shoppers treat food they are not going to buy.
Pick it up, examine it and then toss it back on to the shelf.
I'm tempted to say 'someone's got to eat that', but discretion usually gets the better of me.
During my last few visits to Halfords a member of staff has asked if they can help, their expertise may be lacking, but I applaud them for trying.
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If any BR s are involved with supermarkets professionally, can I ask about something ?
Do supermarkets, particularly the big M, have a staff member who's sole duty is to break the Digestives or, when not doing that, to shake the fizzy drinks ?
Just wondering.
Ted
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Yeah Ted, but hey, did you never shake a canned drink to death when you were young? Just before you gave it to a Mate!! Hilarious.........
Morning all. The sun's out....MD
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No consideration for others and bad manners are prevalant everywhere. It is Sat. 7.30 am- all is quiet and tranquil in my road. Having arrived back home from work at 1.30 am after 18 hours graft, my much needed sleep is shattered by the continuous horrendous din of a large circular saw. I get dressed and go outside to see two builders with their workmates set up on the pavement two doors from me. It was as if they were trying to make as much noise as possible. Needless to say that whilst trying to be as polite as possible, I informed them that it was IMHO a little early for waking up the whole neighbourhood. My tirade did have the desired affect, and peace was restored for two hours. I know these guys are only trying to make a living, but that much racket was taking the pee.Shame I couldn't get back to sleep.
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We were just talking about that at the weekend. Instead of a mate, it was usually the dinner lady. ;-)
Interesting point earlier in the thread about women being less likely to say thanks in response to a polite act, or even acknowledge one than men. That's my experience as well.
I find the British public generally to be among the rudest and most self absorbed people I've met anywhere in the world. I am determined not to sink to that level, or allow my kids to do so. Manners cost nothing.
On the flip side, when you do come across someone with basic social skills and manners, it gives you a nice warm feeling inside.
Cheers
DP
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I treat everyone equally and if a woman is offensive I leave it at that. I think there are other forces now at work in society that instill bad manners in some young women that have nothing to do with feminism.
The over riding danger in all of this - to me - is actually anticipating the worst and being offensive by discourtesy (letting the door go - for example) to someone who is actually a sensitive and caring Human Being.
Edited by oilrag on 01/06/2009 at 13:08
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I learnt many things after the sudden loss of my wife. One bit advice was to seek emotionally uplfiting experiences. I have bought stuff which gave me some temporary EUEs. But the most lasting EUEs come from Random Acts of Kindness - Gives you a nice warm feeling. One example was to give a little kid a quid in the local garage as he had overestimated the buying power of his when choosing sweets rather than have him face the embarrassment of putting stuff back.
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Bilboman... had a tailgater following me a few weeks ago in the lorry. Had to stop at road works traffic lights, which had just changed so I guessed they'd be a while.
Jumped out of the truck, walked round the back, opened the doors, then walked over to the miscreant and asked him if he could see what was in the back now.
He got the hint; kept well back after that!
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Coincidence. I behaved exactly the same as Harleyman just before I sold my LWB HiRoof Transporter. Tailgated all the way from Skipton to Gargrave en route home by a Mini...so close there were times I could not see it in my mirrors. I stopped at the pelican outside the Coop, walked to the rear doors, opened them up and said to the Mini driver..''Madam, I am awfully sorry, but as Iam fully loaded at the moment cannot give you a lift home'' .
And another thing...after a few decades in retailing, when, during a busy trading day, a customer whom I am serving decides to answer their mobile and begin a conversation, I terminate the sale and progress to the next customer, leaving them to go to the back of the queue. I may lose the sale, but I felt a lot better and all my staff were instructed to act in a similar manner.
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Nice one Pugugly. Nice to know there are still gentlemen around. I did the same once, but the kid was only 20p short.
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