Supermarine Spitfire and Merlin yesterday - Happy Blue!
Out in south east Derbyshire yesterday in the National Forest (Conkers centre near to Swadlingcote) and witnessed a striped Spitfire doing a few turns imediately overhead. Glorious sound. Anyone here knows the story?
Supermarine Spitfire and Merlin yesterday - Pugugly
Was it a training version ? (Twin canopy)
Supermarine Spitfire and Merlin yesterday - maz64
I used to live near what I think was an RAF training college in Bracknell and once a year we used to get a Spitfire doing low level passes - I assumed it was their annual fete or something. Fantastic sight and sound.
Supermarine Spitfire and Merlin yesterday - Tron
If it is powered by piston or a gas turbine engine and aircraft are your thing, RIAT 18/19 July 2009 (Fairford) is the place to be this year.

www.airtattoo.com/airshow

From the left hand menu click on Newsroom to get all the latest information on this years show.

Especially: RARE VULCAN SET TO SOAR AT (RIAT) AIR TATTOO. On the 18 and 19 July - it will be there!

NOTE: You cannot procure tickets on the day for this event.
Supermarine Spitfire and Merlin yesterday - Alby Back
As a small child my parents home fairly much backed on to RAF Turnhouse. Used to see Spitfires, Lightnings, Vulcans etc regularly. Later we got used to Jaguars and Hercules. Often had a visit from the Red Arrows in their Gnats. Chipmunks were a daily sight and Jet Provosts were common. Two sounds stick with me to this day. the rumble of a Spit making a low fast pass. and the the banshee roar of a Lightning making a vertical ascent on afterburner. Thrilling doesn't really cover it.
Supermarine Spitfire and Merlin yesterday - AlanGowdy
Wonderful - compared to such aircraft cars don't get a look in. Years ago I was at the British GP at Brands Hatch (yes, that long ago). The cars screaming round the track were impressive.... until Concorde paid a courtesy visit with a low pass. After that they were about as impressive as kiddies' pedal cars.
Supermarine Spitfire and Merlin yesterday - oldnotbold
Battle of Britain Memorial Flight display info:

www.raf.mod.uk/bbmf/displayinfo/may2009.cfm
Supermarine Spitfire and Merlin yesterday - ifithelps
The RAF used to do a bit of low-level flying near where I used to live in South Worcestershire.

If you were on top of a hill at the right time, you could look down on a jet as it flew past.

Not many people can say they've seen that view - I did, once, of a Jaguar.

Supermarine Spitfire and Merlin yesterday - Dwight Van Driver
Sound up

tinyurl.com/op5fq5

dvd
Supermarine Spitfire and Merlin yesterday - bathtub tom
Brings back memories of driving up the Wye valley. I heard a roar and looking across I could see through the top of a Hercules cockpit, banked at what looked like an impossible angle as it flew up the valley.

There's someone who appears to practise aerobatics in a small, noisy, modern aircraft visible from my back garden. Throws it around like a ruddy hooligan - brilliant!
Supermarine Spitfire and Merlin yesterday - oldnotbold
This lives in the next door village - I've climbed over it - it's immaculate. It does the odd orbit over the house, such a great sound.

www.hurricanedisplay.co.uk/
Supermarine Spitfire and Merlin yesterday - DP
A Merlin powered Spitfire being put through its paces is just one of the most pleasing sights and sounds on Earth. I can think of little else that gets close to it.
Supermarine Spitfire and Merlin yesterday - Lud
DVD's link, with the sound obediently turned up, did take me back 60 years and more. Very evocative noise that.

In its way though a high-speed low pass by a modern strike fighter or similar is equally impressive. You hardly hear a thing as it approaches - perhaps just a very faint whine - but as it passes there is a shattering blast of engine roar and the heavy rushing sound of something large going at or near the speed of sound, fading quite quickly to silence. They do go at twice or three times the speed of Spitfires, so it doesn't last long.

Artillery shells passing overhead make a sound remarkably similar to a jet fighter, but without the engine roar.
Supermarine Spitfire and Merlin yesterday - DP
0.55-1.10 in dvd's link actually made all the hairs stand up on the back of my neck. Amazing sight and sound.
Supermarine Spitfire and Merlin yesterday - stunorthants26
That has reminded me that I must get to Duxford this year as I missed last year.

Im a firm fan of the Corsair, what a beast!
Supermarine Spitfire and Merlin yesterday - deepwith
Humph, my Ma was stationed there at one point - she was one of the first female Operations Officers - later in the war was based in Orkney as one of the only women officers.
Supermarine Spitfire and Merlin yesterday - AlastairW
The plane Espada saw could be the one owned by Sir Ralph Robins. It flew a display at last years SeeRed event at Donington Park, and was absolutely fantastic.
Supermarine Spitfire and Merlin yesterday - Armitage Shanks {p}
Check this out! The commentator is (I think) Alan de Cadanet and the pilot is/was the late Ray Hanna - great stuff!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvDDDKnNhuE
Supermarine Spitfire and Merlin yesterday - zookeeper
i had a dakota fly over the house this afternoon, heading southeast from loughborough direction couldnt of been more than 300 ft up
Supermarine Spitfire and Merlin yesterday - martint123
Sorry - duplicate link.

Edited by martint123 on 25/05/2009 at 22:09

Supermarine Spitfire and Merlin yesterday - dxp55
HB

The Lightning has always been my drool over plane - I have never seen or heard one in the air but two engines and cockpit must sound impressive - second is Vulcan. -- Does the Lightning still hold the vertical speed record.
Supermarine Spitfire and Merlin yesterday - Alby Back
Not sure but I remember as small boys sneaking in to the airfield and crawling through the long grass on summers days to lie on our backs as near to the end of the runway as we dared without being seen. The jets would roar over us and as soon as they were clear of the ground the Lightning pilots would sometimes stand them on their tails. A truly awesome sight and sound. Never got caught but came close a few times.

;-)


My dad had a Wolseley at the time. Just for a bit of a motoring connection......
Supermarine Spitfire and Merlin yesterday - henry k
The Lightning has always been my drool over plane
I have never seen or heard one in the air but two engines and cockpit must sound impressive

>>
Start saving?
www.bookcapetown.com/things-to-do/air/jet-flights/...l
10K Euros a trip
"The Lightning can reach an impressive speed of Mach 2.2 and an initial climb rate of 50,000 ft/min."

a video clip
www.capetown-direct.com/activity/jet-fighter-fligh...s
Supermarine Spitfire and Merlin yesterday - Falkirk Bairn
I was in Saudi Arabia around 1970 - Lightnings were sold to the RSAF.

Spare parts often took ages to come from the UK - except when a Saudi Pilot forgot to put down the undercarriage - lots of spares arrived at 200mph down the runway.
Supermarine Spitfire and Merlin yesterday - daveyjp
"second is Vulcan"

Vulcan Bomber XH558 is supposed to be making an appearance at the Windermere Airshow this year.
Supermarine Spitfire and Merlin yesterday - BrianW
Vulcan flight schedule. Apologies for the formatting.

www.vulcantothesky.org/FlightOperations.asp

Date Event Confirmed? XH558 on ground? Website
14 Jun Cosford Yes www.cosfordairshow.co.uk
19 Jun 21 Jun Vokel - Netherlands Yes Yes
27 Jun 28 Jun Biggin Hill Yes www.bigginhillairfair.co.uk
04 Jul 05 Jul Waddington Yes Yes www.waddingtonairshow.co.uk
11 Jul Yeovilton Yes Yes
11 Jul Lasham - flypast Yes
18 Jul 19 Jul Fairford - RIAT Yes Yes www.airtattoo.com
23 Jul 24 Jul Lowestoft Yes
25 Jul Windermere Yes
25 Jul Sunderland Yes
25 Jul Yes
07 Aug Cowes
09 Aug Whitehaven Yes
22 Aug 23 Aug Bournemouth www.bournemouthair.co.uk
22 Aug 23 Aug Shoreham
27 Aug 28 Aug Clacton
29 Aug Silverstone Yes
30 Aug Dunsfold Yes
05 Sep Cosby - Leicestershire
05 Sep Duxford
10 Sep Jersey / Guernsey www.jerseyairdisplay.org.uk
12 Sep Leuchars Yes www.airshow.co.uk
20 Sep Sanicole - Belgium Yes
20 Sep Goodwood Revival
20 Sep Cambridge (private event) Yes
21 Sep Doncaster
26 Sep Woodford
26 Sep 27 Sep Southport
Supermarine Spitfire and Merlin yesterday - Chas{P}
dxp55

I volunteer at Bruntingthorpe Airfield in Leicestershire looking after some of the aircraft in the cold war jets collection. It's also the home of Vulcan XH558 as you probably know.

If you want to hear a lightning running and doing a fast taxi down the runway there's an open day on the 30th August. Also in the ground running fleet: Comet, Victor, Buccaneer, Canberra, Jet Provost and the polish TS11 Iskra.

Here's a link to the Youtube site I put together: www.youtube.com/ColdWarJets
Supermarine Spitfire and Merlin yesterday - midlifecrisis

Fast Taxi with the odd take off thrown in! (Nice to see one back in the air..however briefly! ;) )

Edited by midlifecrisis on 28/05/2009 at 16:15

Supermarine Spitfire and Merlin yesterday - Tornadorot
Lightnings and Vulcans at Turnhouse?! My recollections from the 70s were mainly of the resident Chipmunks, Bulldogs and Devons. Not quite so exciting...
Supermarine Spitfire and Merlin yesterday - oldnotbold
"Chipmunks, Bulldogs " nothing wrong with those when you are 19 and getting paid to fly them...
Supermarine Spitfire and Merlin yesterday - Tornadorot
"Chipmunks Bulldogs " nothing wrong with those when you are 19 and getting paid to
fly them...


Well, yes, of course, flying them is a different matter entirely - nobody needed to pay me to spend half an hour in the back seat of a Chippie with a parachute strapped to my backside!
Supermarine Spitfire and Merlin yesterday - oldnotbold
Best fun with your trousers on - I logged the princely amount of 10 mins solo in a Chipmunk!
Supermarine Spitfire and Merlin yesterday - BrianW
Spent Sunday afternoon at the Southend airshow, lots of tasty machinery including the Battle of Britain flight and the Eurofighter.
Supermarine Spitfire and Merlin yesterday - Cliff Pope
Those big 4-prop transport planes (Hercules?) lumbering up our valley in west wales are impressive. Looking down on one as it does a slow bank is like watching a bumble bee - theoretically they are too heavy to fly.

There was a Spitfire exercising overhead a few years ago.
The scariest moment was a funny looking jet with two tails, joined right at the back, as it came up the valley flying very low. It seemed to be aiming straight at the house, and making no attempt to climb. At the last moment the pilot gave it full blast, and trailing clouds of black smoke it lifted over the house.
I know planes are never as low as they look, but when you realise you are actually higher up than a plane that might be in trouble, your heart does stop for a moment.
Supermarine Spitfire and Merlin yesterday - SteVee
I know what you mean about low flying planes.

Many years ago while I was mowing the lawn, a mosquito - two merlin engines on full power - leapt over my bottom hedge and somehow cleared the house. It was coming into the nearby airfield for a film shot on 633 squadron.
I'd often go down to the airfield to watch the Mosquitos - they would sometimes have several on the taxiway warming up before take-off, just a few yards away.

I don't think there are any more of these magnificent planes still flying - there were a joy to watch, and hear.

At Farnborough one year, they had a spitfire 'chased' by a tornado - the Tornado was just sat on the spitfire's tail until they started to climb above the airfield - the Tornado just demonstrated its much greater power /weight ratio.

I'd love to see a flying B36 ...
Supermarine Spitfire and Merlin yesterday - oldnotbold
"I don't think there are any more of these magnificent planes still flying"

The UK one crashed - the fault was a generic Mosquito fault that had been known about, and cured, in the 40s, but the mod had not been made to it. Both were killed. The only other flyable one is in the US, and not in flying condition right now. There are plans to build one from scratch in NZ, but I don't think it's even close to completion.

Very good museum with Mosquitoes here www.dehavillandmuseum.co.uk/, just off the M25 near Hatfield.
Supermarine Spitfire and Merlin yesterday - Tornadorot
The UK one crashed - the fault was a generic Mosquito fault that had been
known about and cured in the 40s but the mod had not been made to
it.


According to the AAIB report, it was more a case of an essential, but poorly-documented, adjustment not having been made to the engine carbs at their last service, leading to one engine cutting out during an aerobatic manoeuvre.
Supermarine Spitfire and Merlin yesterday - zookeeper
snip

Edited by Dynamic Dave on 28/05/2009 at 13:40

Supermarine Spitfire and Merlin yesterday - Tron
Cliff Pope -

That sounds like an A10 'Warthog' using your house as target practice.

tinyurl.com/qc87kr - serious tank & building buster.

I fish a lot and one of the places I go to we get AH64 Apache attack helicopters 'buzzing' us some days.

You see them flying around and then they hide up in coppices etc., and all goes very quiet - but you can see them through binoculars bobbing up and down - theoretically blowing us and our cars up bank side.

They often fly towards us too and again at the last second pull up to a hover and dart off again.

Some of the pilots are real poseurs too - if they see you have a camera, they will come to you in their aircraft, hover close by, do a 360 deg turn and leave. This they normally do at the end of their training flight.

We don?t see them that often now though.

Edited by Tron on 27/05/2009 at 17:51

Supermarine Spitfire and Merlin yesterday - henry k
A10 action
www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhPwaApe4Rk
With the sound off.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=HS6cstOc9aQ
with the sound on

and how quiet it is compared with other military jet aircraft
www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhT62ne-noM
Supermarine Spitfire and Merlin yesterday - midlifecrisis
Mosquito due for completion (to flying condition) in Australia.

The Kermit Weeks owned one in Florida is no longer airworthy (nor is the Sunderland he bought and then stuck in a hanger).
Supermarine Spitfire and Merlin yesterday - oldnotbold
MLC - the deH museum would make a good BR meet-up point!
Supermarine Spitfire and Merlin yesterday - Tron
ONB: I used to know the area, the museum and very well too - used to live a few miles away in Barnet (North London). It used to be advisable to call to ensure staff were present & the facility was open at one time - not sure if that still applies?

Big RSPCA centre and a huge Sainsburys savacentre complex at London Colney - are both still there?

I recall that the De Havilland aircraft museum is a lot closer to London Colney & South Mimms than Hatfield though.



Supermarine Spitfire and Merlin yesterday - oldnotbold
It is, Tron. A friend has a video of the last UK Mossie displaying over the museum, which is right by the M25. You can hear squeals of brakes in the background as amazed motorists see the shape and think "what the bleep was that?"
Supermarine Spitfire and Merlin yesterday - tiredeyes
How Strange.
It was last week, right over Halesowen (near to Hagley Bypass) I heard a mad sound outside, I thought a big American muscle car had pulled up outside my house.
but it sounded strange like going from front to back of my house.
went outside and looked up, there was a great stonking Spitfire or hurricane zooming around in the air above my house.
I was really taken aback and called my kids outside to see it.
I explained what it was and when it flew.
my son 16 was mesmerised by it.
as was I.
the sound of it was incredible.
the wings when it flew on its side were proportional so I am guessing at either of my favourite two planes.
the engines was a single prop and petrol thump thump.
bought a tear to my eye, and a lump in the throat.....
Supermarine Spitfire and Merlin yesterday - pmh2
I recall that the De Havilland aircraft museum is a lot closer to London Colney & South Mimms than Hatfield though.

tinyurl.com/Mosquito-museum


Zoom out as required or in to view the aircraft!


p
Supermarine Spitfire and Merlin yesterday - Cliff Pope
Cliff Pope -
That sounds like an A10 'Warthog' using your house as target practice.
>>



No, nothing like that. This looked vintage. It had two fuselages joined at the back by the tail wing. Painted yellow.
Supermarine Spitfire and Merlin yesterday - daveyjp
Cliff - De Haviland Vampire?


members.fortunecity.co.uk/colinspictures/images/ai...m
Supermarine Spitfire and Merlin yesterday - Cliff Pope
Cliff - De Haviland Vampire?
members.fortunecity.co.uk/colinspictures/images/ai...m


That's the one, I'm pretty certain. Thanks for identifying it.

It's got a sort of shark-like appeal, similar in its way to a Daimler Dart, which I secretly hanker after.
(I put that bit in to establish a MOTORING relevance)
Supermarine Spitfire and Merlin yesterday - daveyjp
I saw a Daimler Dart on Sunday near Settle, unfortunately it was on the back of an AA truck. The joys of running a classic.
Supermarine Spitfire and Merlin yesterday - BrianW
My wife's first job was secretary to a guy who had a Dart and a Roller.
She got to drive both a couple of times.
Supermarine Spitfire and Merlin yesterday - Tron
No nothing like that. This looked vintage. It had two fuselages joined at the back
by the tail wing. Painted yellow.


Daveyjp beat me to it :(

I thought you said prop driven - awesome old Warbird - P38 lightening was my thought tiny.cc/Do3mu

Still (theoretically of course!) blew your house up though!

Edited by Tron on 28/05/2009 at 10:15

Supermarine Spitfire and Merlin yesterday - Mick Snutz
The closest I ever came to a flying Spitfire was at a small airstrip near to my home. I'd gone for a bike ride and happened to spot the plane flying circuits. A public road went right past the beginning of the landing strip so I stopped the bike and sat on top of a 5 foot high grassy bank which marked the start and end of the grass runway. To my amazement the Spitfire was heading straight towards me and coming in for a landing. it got closer and closer and as luck would have it I had an old manual SLR camera so hurriedly took some snaps of this thing heading straight for me. I ducked as it whooshed overhead and I've never felt so scared but exhilerated in all my life as I felt the whoosh of hot air as it passed above me. It felt like only a few feet but was probably more. A few pics came out but don't do the event justice.
Supermarine Spitfire and Merlin yesterday - Pugugly
www.liveleak.com/view?i=6b1_1212355249

Something like this ? (Made non-clickable due to some dodgy stuff I found in the nether regions of the site)
Supermarine Spitfire and Merlin yesterday - Tron
PU - How close?!

Not this close...

Google: news reporter hit by plane

I am not going to post the video link. I feel it may distress some.
Supermarine Spitfire and Merlin yesterday - RichardW
If you can't fly, or afford a Spitfire, you could always shoe horn the engine into an SD-1

www.ppcmag.co.uk/projectcardetail.asp?id=4

www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=245424&f=2...0

(OK, techically it's a Meteor engine, but it's got 12 cylinders and makes a lot of noise!)
Supermarine Spitfire and Merlin yesterday - dxp55
A good few years ago before I retired I was working down by the Clee Hills (or Malvern) and the Harriers were knocking off the radar dome on top of hills - we watched one cross the horizon towards the dome then it disappeared - a few seconds later I could hear it but not see it - looking round I saw it below me coming straight up the valley to my left heading right at flashing yellow beacon on van - made my day

Also had a job at British Aerospace near Chester - I walked around that Mosquito before it crashed -sad day that.
Supermarine Spitfire and Merlin yesterday - Rudedog
I know it's not quite the same, but there was a Hurricane flying around Biggin Hill this afternoon, not sure what it was up to. I have to say when you live around the airfield you get used to the sound of either plane (Spitfire or Hurricane), but in all of my years listening to WW2 planes I would say that the one that stands out the most was when I was fortunate enough to see and hear one of the only Bf 109s circling over my house early one September morning before a show. That engine sound stood out so much because it was so different to the ubiquitous Merlin.
Supermarine Spitfire and Merlin yesterday - ijws15
Used to live in Derby (90s) and was in the garden one afternoon when most/all of the Battle of Britain flight went over low, in formation. Spitfire, Hurricane and Lancaster - six merlins all at the same time.

Where we live now we are on one of the routes they use to transit and regularly see Spitfires in the summer.

Funniest sigting was in north Devon (I was about 8 or 9) Spitfire, Hurricane, Hunter and Phantom in formation. Phantom VERY nose up to keep the speed down to that of the others.

Closest I have been was helping to push the Spitfire into the Hanger at Topcliffe on their air show day around 1970.

Lighting probably lsot the vertical record to the F15 - Some versions have more thrust than weight so it can ACCELLERATE vertically..
Supermarine Spitfire and Merlin yesterday - BrianW
"Closest I have been was helping to push the Spitfire into the Hanger at Topcliffe on their air show day around 1970."


I nearly got killed in the rush when they asked for volunteers to help push a Spit into the hanger at Duxford last September.
Supermarine Spitfire and Merlin yesterday - oldnotbold
Since 80% of RAF Battle of Britain fighters were Hurricanes, there's nothing wrong with them!
Supermarine Spitfire and Merlin yesterday - Waino
If you appreciate the sound of a Merlin, then it's well worth going to one of the events attended by Peter Grieve with his restored R-R engines.
sites.google.com/site/merlinv12site/rolls-royce-me...x

I've seen Peter at the Rougham Airfield shows (only a couple of miles from our house) and he is a true engineering enthusiast (maniac?). I look forward to seeing him again this year.

It's not very often that an engineer gets a round of applause for his efforts!
Supermarine Spitfire and Merlin yesterday - merlin
Just been reading the excellent book "Not Much of an Engineer" by Sir Stanley Hooker. He played a major role before the war in putting the power into the merlin engine. Later he went on to develop the Harrier engine and save Rolls-Royce when they ran into problems with the RB211 engine for which he was knighted.
Supermarine Spitfire and Merlin yesterday - Mapmaker
Just 6 Merlins?

I've always wished (with, of course, caveats, for obvious reasons) I could have watched a 1,000 bomber squad take off and form. Now, with 4,000 Merlins all singing away together the noise must have been incredible.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xfe0vEkz3lI made non-clickable as some of the comments aren't really very family-friendly

Supermarine Spitfire and Merlin yesterday - midlifecrisis
This is CGI..but absolutely stunning:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1RV4O9vUqU&feature=related

And the late, great Ray Hanna showing it's a 'Piece of cake'.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xf3UtmHLKUU&feature=related
Supermarine Spitfire and Merlin yesterday - Pugugly
I have POK on VHS - good story with a fine and moving ending. Flawed only in respect of two facts - very few Spitfires weere sent to France as Fighter Command wisely retained them in the UK for the inevitable BoB despite Churchill's insistence that they went and the planes in the series were all later versions.
Supermarine Spitfire and Merlin yesterday - kiss (keep it simple)
The Griffon engined Spitfires are also pretty impressive. They have a much deeper growl than the Merlin. I was just leaving Duxford Museum a couple of years ago when a couple of Spits started up and did a few circuits. One of them was a Griffon and it sounded amazing. What a great end to the day!
Supermarine Spitfire and Merlin yesterday - boggles
I think the one you saw, was doing a fly-by, and display at the Moira canal festival. The BBMF aircraft, often fly round, and do several of these mini displays at different locations, so they get seen in transit and on location by lots of lucky people.
The Dakota appeared over Rolleston on Dove on the same day. There is a Hurricane at Rosliston or Rolleston (not certain which yet) on Saturday 5/6/09, eta 15:30.
If the sight and sound ,of one of these old warbirds doesn't stir something in you, then you have no soul IMO.
SQ

Edited by Dynamic Dave on 02/06/2009 at 20:32

Supermarine Spitfire and Merlin yesterday - boggles
Ok, Hurricane is at Rolleston on Saturday. Don't have any info as to where else it may be.