Road Rage, how susceptible are you? - Hector Brocklebank
It's something I'm sure we have all experienced at some stage, albeit to varying degrees. I make a conscious effort to keep a cool head on the road and try my best to forgive and forget when other road users act unfairly. However, there are always those cases where the red mist takes hold and the temptation to vent one's anger becomes too much to resist.

My questions are thus: How susceptible are you to road rage and how do you deal with it? Also, have you ever let your temper get the better of you on the road only to regret it later?

Edited by Hector Brocklebank on 16/05/2009 at 01:17

Road Rage, how susceptible are you? - stunorthants26
When I was younger I stuck a few fingers up but nowadays, I quell any anger by stating verbally to myself that the person who wound me up has a lampost with their name on it, when and where who knows, but karma is like that and I just smile and note it down for when im visting my dad in hospital as something to chat about! My misses gets very annoyed but she has taken up my coping mechanism too as she drives badly when annoyed while she waves her arms about in disgust - I value my life :-)

I was overtaken, while doing a very reasonable 40 limit over an old toll bridge near home by a motorbike. What was annoying was not that he overtook over double white lines, but that they had a passenger and came very close to a head-on with an oncoming car on account of the lines being there for good reason. It was so very close, made me wince. That did make me angry, it was so dangerous to those around and the passenger. Just there is hardly ever a cop around when you want one!
Road Rage, how susceptible are you? - Dave_TD
When somebody acts (or doesn't act) in a way that shows they aren't looking beyond the end of their own bonnet and forces me to take avoiding action, I do have a tendency to shout James May's preferred expletive in an accusatory manner rather loudly. I know they can't hear me but it makes me feel so much better.

I never get wound up to the point of actually needing to go and engage in discussion with the other party over their obvious inability to pilot a vehicle, mainly because they might be bigger than me but also because they've probably carried on like this for years without realising anything might be wrong, so nothing I can say is likely to change that.

This relaxed, even resigned attitude comes from years of experience of the daily idiocy of other road users from behind the wheel of a variety of sizes and shapes of car, van and truck.

Dave TD
Road Rage, how susceptible are you? - motorprop
many years ago, when faced with an act of driving of breathtaking selfishness and stupidity - I was waiting Ist in line at a right hand filter to turn right , when a guy at the left filter lane ( it was a T junction so no going straight ahead ) suddenly turned right across my bows, stranding me in the middle of the road, blocking an approaching double - decker bus. As he got stuck in traffic, I ran across , jammed his door open, slapped him across the face with an open hand as he tried to get out , took his keys from the ignition and chucked them across the road towards a drain... I can't remember if they dropped down or not , but when I overtook him he was standing there , yelling and waving his arms ...


Now days ,older and wiser , I just ignore virtually everything I see. Not worth getting involved .
Road Rage, how susceptible are you? - Farmer Boy
I've heard that there is a bus company in East Anglia somewhere that gives their drivers a psycological screening to assess their level of impatience at other drivers. If they fail they do not drive their busses.

Apparently it has had a significant effect on the accident rate.

Wouldnt it be a good idea to include this in the driving test, but not only for new drivers but everyone. New drivers can be quite timid to start with.
Road Rage, how susceptible are you? - bathtub tom
I guess the failed ones drive the dust-carts around here. ;>)
Road Rage, how susceptible are you? - Robin Reliant
I now content myself with a good swear under my breath, but I never get involved anymore. Too many nutters out there and even the biggest howler from other drivers is met with a smile and a "No harm done" shrug of the shoulders.

It wasn't always like that, I can remember screaming a few prayers at a taxi driver who turned right across the path of my motorcycle on a busy high street many years ago. I loudly drew everyone's attention to his receeding hairline in a frank and candid manner, and enquired as to the marital status of his parents in similar terms.

I now look back on that with embarrassment, we all make mistakes.
Road Rage, how susceptible are you? - Lud
People generally become calmer as they age, although some are driven to insanity by the tedium of the ageing process itself.

I have always suffered from easily-awakened road rage, but I try to keep it to myself. Not always successfully of course, as my poor wife sometimes reminds me. But at least it stays in the car, give or take the odd hyaena-like sardonic grin, ambiguous enough to pass more or less unnoticed.

Instances of poor or obstructive or aggressive or downright idiotic driving are very commonplace after all. The thing to do with bad drivers is to give them a wide berth and leave them far behind. On the rare occasions when they are themselves going rapidly, the thing to do is let them go (as HJ did in Thailand). The thing not to do is to get entangled in any sort of tit-for-tat road manoeuvres or gesticulating or bawling contests. They are undignified or even risky and can lead to trouble.

It is difficult for a young, careful, competent but inexperienced driver to resist the temptation to show at least a finger out of the window when another driver has revealed him or herself to be a PFD, but I always advise strongly against it. Leave the rude signs to the traffic police. It's their job even though there aren't nearly enough of them to do it.
Road Rage, how susceptible are you? - Lud
I've posted this before, but it's worth bearing in mind that road rage isn't restricted to drivers. There are plenty of very aggressive pedestrians and cyclists. I once saw an irate large pedestrian punch the driver of a scruffy white Transit pickup through the open o/s window, laying him out (I have no idea why). This occurred at the junction of Hampstead Road and Marylebone/Euston Road above the underpass, in the middle of a weekday.

It's a jungle out there.
Road Rage, how susceptible are you? - maz64
SWMBO once had a go at me on the M4 because I didn't toot my horn at some idiot in a Golf that had come up the inside and pulled sharply in front of me as I was about to overtake a lorry. I just thought that it looked like he was used to doing that sort of thing, and any sign of annoyance from me would probably give him a feeling of satisfaction - depriving him of that was probably my best option.

Cycling to the station a few months ago I stopped at a junction behind another cyclist in all the gear, including shoes that clip on to the peddles. There were metal railings at the side of the road to encourage pedestrians to use the designated crossing points, and he held onto the railings to save having to unclip his shoes.

However, a 'yoof' decided to walk along the kerb between the ralings and the road. When he got to the cyclist, whose arm was blocking his way, the cyclist didn't want to let go of the railings, perhaps objecting to the yoof not using the pavement proper. Justifiably the yoof didn't want to walk into the road to go round the cyclist, and perhaps objected to having his way blocked.

Heated words were exchanged, the yoof managed to barge his way through, and as a parting shot threw a drinks bottle at the cyclist who couldn't really respond. The cyclist ended up obviously very worked up, and I just thought - really, it's not worth it.

In fact it got worse for the cyclist - further down the road he shot past a slower bike, then stopped for a red light at a pedestrian crossing. But of course the slower bike just kept going and sailed past him. When Mr lycra eventually caught up, more words were exchanged, although I think it was mostly one way - slow cyclist just wondered what all the fuss was about.
Road Rage, how susceptible are you? - fredthefifth
I have to admit that it is something I am going to have to work at. I do get annoyed with the idiots (or people that I THINK are idiots!) but then I probably end up being an idiot myself. Two examples.

Low speed bit of dual carriageway in town. Car in offside line in a free flow situation driving very slowly. I overtake on the inside. In doing so I notice that are gesticulating / shouting / having a joke (I think) through the passenger window with somebody on the footpath. They speed up as I undertake and I cut them up a bit when pulling back into outside lane. It becomes apparent that they are following me. i.e I indicate right, so do they, but I didn't turn right I went straight on, so did they. Red mist descending by now!! Instead of going home - didn't want them to see where I lived - I went past my house and turned right and right again into a quite street. I pulled over, they parked behind me, I got out and started to walk back to the car, to my relief (I admit) they drove off with a very frightened look on their face and the tables were turned, I followed them up the road, but only for a couple of hundred yards and at the first opportunity I went a different way to them, even though it was not the way I wanted to go. The trouble with this situation was that in my opinion it could have happened to many people. Facing with the situation back on the dual carriageway I bet many would have undertook and subsequently been followed in what was a very threatening manner by this person.

The other situation was somebody again driving at 25mph in a 40mph limit. Yes, so I got close, they got slower and slower, so I overtook, which clearly pink fluffy dice them off and at the next lights there was a bit of a shouting match through open windows. For goodness sake - what did they expect!!

Both happened last summer and I really am making an effort and nothing since, but in the above who is the idiot really. Me I think, though there is some mitigation ..... isn't there???

All the best.
FTF

Edited by Webmaster on 18/05/2009 at 02:02

Road Rage, how susceptible are you? - spikeyhead {p}
I've only ever once got out of my car and that was to prevent someone having a go at another. Was fun watching them run back to their car once they realized they weren't jsut dealing with a single woman in the car in front of me.
Road Rage, how susceptible are you? - ifithelps
I was crawling along a road in London many years ago, looking for a street number.

Guy behind got very irate, so did I, and slammed the anchors on.

He stopped, but too close to the rear of my car to pull round, so out I get, yank open his driver's door and tear him off a strip.

I can remember a by now very frightened man saying "Yes mate", or "No mate", every time I paused for breath.

I soon ran out of steam, thanked him, shut (not slammed) his driver's door, got back into my car and drove off.

That was about 25-years-ago in Grove Green Road, Leytonstone, and was the last time I got really annoyed in a car.

Try to keep calm nowadays, although it takes a conscious effort in some situations.
Road Rage, how susceptible are you? - Farmer Boy
In all fairness were you showing due considerstion for the vehicle behind you?

Did you for instance pull in to tne side and signal him past?

If it was a busy road shouldnt you have parked up and conducted your search on foot?

I was crawling along a road in London many years ago looking for a street

Road Rage, how susceptible are you? - ifithelps
Farmer Boy,

I possibly was not showing due consideration, which is why the post is neutral.

Can't remember if I indicated for him to go past, but both of us were probably at fault.

Having said that, two-way street, cars parked everywhere, how is one supposed to look for a house number?

Road Rage, how susceptible are you? - FocusDriver
It's only human to react adversely to inconsiderate or selfish behaviour. The trick, as has already been said, is to consciously keep yourself in check.

In my youth, I participated in three or four incidents of road rage in which I acted dangerously myself, either initially or as a reaction. The conclusion of each case was ill feeling, danger to myself and other road users, and non-resolution. All these outcomes essentially meant that getting hot and bothered is always counter productive.

I'll still get very angered by what I perceive as bad driving. But I'm hardly likely to teach them anything. So I let them get on their way while I breathe deeply. By accepting a non-alpha position on the road, I think you're far more likely to avoid trouble.

I don't know what other people think but I believe that younger drivers today are better drivers than new drivers when I passed my test in 1992. It's possibly where I live but very rarely to boy racers tailgate people; a better class of chav or blinkers? I don't know.
Road Rage, how susceptible are you? - fredthefifth
FocusDriver

>>The conclusion of each case was ill feeling, danger to myself and other road users, and non-resolution.

I think you have captured it there - non resolution.

During the inevitable reflection on my encounters it has occurred to me that the other party is oblivious to any blame on their part and that in their opinion it is me that is the idiot.

So what was the point?

I have found you post helpful, I have been trying to find a thought process that will help me with my occasional road rage and that might be it!

All the best.
FTF
Road Rage, how susceptible are you? - FocusDriver
Thanks for the comments fred. Of course what I'm saying is not new. The thing I have to consciously remember is that, in the interests of road safety, I'll have to be prepared to be the "meek unassertive one". And, with regards the thought processes you mention, in this context, it's possibly a good idea to be satisfied that YOU have prevented a collision by being public spirited enough to put aside your own ego in compensating for someone else's actions.