On Spanish motorway ~ tinyurl.com/qkwfgj
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"The expatriate, who police said keeps several expensive high cylinder cars at his home in Marbella,.."
That would explain the bonnet bulges :-)
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When I become President of Europe, I'm going to pass a law where the license is revoked for life and the car crushed regardless of whether its a humble runabout or a £100k supercar.
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Well, you certainly won't be getting my vote!
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Rather disappointing. But the car is brand new, so it may go a bit better when it has loosened up.
What happens when the Spanish authorities 'confiscate' your driving licence? Surely they don't make you go through all the tedium of getting another one?
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I hope he'd inflated his tyres to the correct pressure for high-speed work :)
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It doesn't do the speed kills fraternity much good when these news stories break of so-called exceptional speeding. How often do we read about people getting caught at "outrageous" speeds, and yet no-one died or got hurt?
Doesn't that say something? Maybe in the right place and the right time, it's OK? Just ask the Germans...
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doesn't do the speed kills fraternity much good when these news stories break
Oh I dunno... some people just love choking with rage over nothing much. It keeps them old.
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I hope enough people who work for insurance companies have noted his details.
Obviously a very high-risk customer! Possibly an opportunity to come up with a record insurance quote!
Quote:...""How often do we read about people getting caught at "outrageous" speeds, and yet no-one died or got hurt?"" Because those cases end up as news stories about 'killed instantly when car / bike left road and hit tree". !!!!
Edited by Sofa Spud on 14/05/2009 at 17:39
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Good for him!
In these grim times it's nice to read that the British can still out-class the rest of Europe at something.
Pity it wasn't a British made car but you can't have everything, can you?
I read the other day that someone had been fined £1000 for 85 in a 50 limit here, so £3600 seems quite moderate to me.
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...Good for him!...
Sorry, can't agree.
At this speed, it can only have been good luck rather than good management that no accident was caused.
And there's no need for it - hire time at a racetrack.
Except I suspect this guy would not, because he would come into contact with proper racing drivers who would drive rings round him.
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it can only have been good luck rather than good management that no accident was caused.
Echo - Sorry can't agree with that either.
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Is anyone familiar with this particular stretch of the A92 N.E. of Granada?
Looking at google maps it seems that the section between Diezma and Lopera is ideal for a white knukle ride.
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Wait till he's had it chipped!
Sorry, modified.
MD
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On a very slightly different note:
tinyurl.com/cseu4d
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The man in the Ferrari is 56-years-old, I'm a few years shy of that, but reckon my reactions are not what they were when I was 20 or 30.
At 186mph, to coin a phrase used in court about one of the killer drivers in this country, he can have been no more than a passenger in that car.
Of course, it's all about consequences, nothing nasty happened, so he's lauded as some modern day Stirling Moss or Bentley Boy.
Like it or not, he could have driven in just the same way and killed or seriously injured somebody.
"So a couple of your kids are dead? So what? The speed was nothing for the car, and the guy was only giving it a bit of a gun. Some people will moan about anything."
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I am supposed to be having an early night but just cannot sleep anymore :(. Anyway you are completly right. A car is not a toy, it is a serious piece of metal that can kill people. It is transport. If you want this sort of fun then that is what track days are for. If you can afford a Ferrari you can afford to drive on a track.
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56-years-old, I'm a few years shy of that, but reckon my reactions are not what they were when I was 20 or 30.
I'm well past that. But while my reactions probably are a bit slower than they were when I was 20, they are almost certainly more precise and controlled. I have said here before that lightning-quick reactions are useless unless they are also correct.
In any case, the whole objective of driving properly (on the road, obviously, not on the track at eleven tenths) is to eliminate the need for quick reactions. I always mark myself down a grade for the mildest of hairy moments.
At 186mph
Case in point: I may be 20 years older than you but I can spot the difference between 186 and 168 without even trying...
:o}
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>>> On a very slightly different note: <<<
Obviously a limited slip diff *~*
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Although he wasn't breaking the law, I remember the late Desmond "Dizzy" Addicott (www.minimarcos.org.uk/mmhda.html) freely admitting to exceeding 200 mph on the M1 before the introduction of the 70 mph limit.
Edited by L'escargot on 15/05/2009 at 07:36
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there's an element of urban myth about it, but it's often stated that one of the reasons for the introduction of the 70 limit on m/ways was AC Cars using the M1 for speed-testing their Le Mans Cobras. This was widely reported in the tabloids under Shock! Horror! headlines.
Remember that when the m-way limit was introduced, 70mph was the upper end of the performance envelope for the vast majority of cars on British roads.
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For all those criticizing, how many of you have driven a genuine supercar?
My old GT3 was far more stable once it was above 130mph with the aerodynamics working properly. I've done similar speeds, just a case of being sensible where, choose a stretch of three lane motorway with nothing ahead for a mile and there's no real issue with it.
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Speed, in my opinion, is fun. Whatever your views on its death dealing capabilities and anti social properties, it sticks a silly daft grin on my face. Always has done, and I genuinely hope it always will do. If a GT3 comes up behind me on a motorway at 140 mph, my gut reaction is not to scowl, tut or get his reg number, but to turn down the stereo, wind down the window, listen to the music and grin! It brightens my day.
I rarely stray much over 85-90 these days (license dependent job, job dependent kids, financial responsibilities etc) but before such things governed my actions, I would fairly frequently ride motorcycles or drive cars at speeds of similar or even greater velocity than the national headline figures you see of late. I've had a Kawasaki ZX-7R flat out on the public road on one occasion. Took days to come down from the rush.
I never crashed. Probably as much through luck as judgment, but that's the fact of it. Nobody got hurt or inconvenienced. Friends were similarly lead footed or handed, and I never heard of them crashing either. Apart from one, but his tendency was to leave the road backwards on corners rather than achieve headline top speeds!
I just don't believe the majority of people who buy high performance cars or big motorbikes and claim never to break the speed limit. In fact, I don't believe the majority of people who claim never to break the speed limit in or on any vehicle.
Edited by DP on 15/05/2009 at 12:44
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I'm not sure what people expect really.
Man has Ferrari. Drives Fast.
When the guy or any person for that matter is given a licence to drive then society takes the risk that the person will use it responsibly.
He opened the taps on the Ferrari and made a judgement call. That's what the licence gives him the ability to do make a judgement call.
I regularly get nervous at other peoples overtaking judgement calls when they are coming toward me on my side of the road!
The fact that he broke the speed limit massively and was fined 3600 quid is neither here nor there for me. He either endangered someone else or he didnt.
The Speed limit is in my opinion a governments blunt instrument of limiting judgement calls in only one particular way. If I could make it illegal for others to make me nervous when they over take then I would. We just dont have laws or time to ban enough scenarios to please everyone.
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Look at the recent study of how drivers rated their own ability and judgement .Virtually everyone thought they were in the elite. Even people with serious accident records greatly over-rated themselves.
So if we let people choose their own maximum speed a lot of drivers would go beyond their capability. And it would make the courts a nightmare .
On a recent 150 mile motorway journey I drove nearly all the way at 75-80 and I counted how many people came past me, not at a marginally higher speed, but at a significant margin- I would estimate 90-100 mph. By the end of the journey it was 62 drivers.
These were not people misjudging their speed , as in meaning to be 75-80 but letting their concentration wander ( nice thought).They were taking no notice at all of the limit .
One was even towing a small trailer.
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For those posting on this thread and making out this guy is some kind of hero, the next time you get hit by a driver who is speeding, please feel free to come back and post your thoughts.
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For those posting on this thread and making out this guy is some kind of hero the next time you get hit by a driver who is speeding please feel free to come back and post your thoughts.
Highly unlikely on a motorway, don't you think?
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If it could be demonstrated that for a significant minority of drivers their maximum safe capability was 40mph and only during daytime, should that mean that we are all restricted to 40 (even on motorways) and daytime only driving?
I have a group of people in mind, but I'm not mentioning that, because it's not directly relevant to the point...only that such people do, arguably exist in large numbers.
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Not disagreeing HJ, but that seems to be the gist of the argument above. Slow us all down until we're safe, but that line could be very low for some of us.
I still think the 60mph national limit + 70 on dual carriageways makes sense. Motorways should be done along the lines of the German autobahn. But the determinative to remove all risk at any cost will never allow it. :(
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