bell boy,
Tyne Tunnel is the A19.
Pat's route is the A1 past the MetroCentre and over the Tyne at Blaydon.
All plain sailing dual carriageway and no roundabouts I can think of.
Edited by Honestjohn on 14/05/2009 at 09:50
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I thought the M25 was just one big roundabout!
Edited by Honestjohn on 14/05/2009 at 09:50
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You could drive to somewhere near Perth without using a roundabout, couldn't you?
Just a thought, but isn't the M25 one big roundabout?! ;)
Edited by Honestjohn on 14/05/2009 at 09:49
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You could drive to somewhere near Perth without using a roundabout, couldn't you?
You'd reach one on the A1 where it meets the A720 Edinburgh bypass, if not before, and on the M6 / M74/ A74 / A80 route north the first roundabout is at Stirling, 390 miles up from junction 13 of the M1 ;-)
Edited by Dave_TD {P} on 14/05/2009 at 21:49
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who invented the roundabout ? my grandad ( dispatch rider during ww2) reckons the yanks brought it over during the war or was it common place in europe ? maybe he was confused , it was a long time ago when he told me... zoo
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The world's first roundabout was Sollershott Circus, in Letchworth Garden City - the home town of my youth! Created in 1903.
Most of the north side of the town was designed around it, although originally traffic flowed both ways...
Dave TD.
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Roundabouts are almost unknown in the USA and when encountered, the locals find them almost incomprehensible.
I doubt that they introduced them to Britain.
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>> You could drive to somewhere near Perth without using a roundabout couldn't you? on the M6 / M74/ A74 / A80 route north the first roundabout is at Stirling 390 miles up from junction 13 of the M1 ;-)
I was thinking of the M6 route! Thinking about it, hasn't the A80 got a roundabout at Cumbernauld? I think that the M6, M74, M73 and then up to Cumbernauld is about as far as you can go... if it hasn't then Dunblane on the M9 seems about the limit... Shame there's not a decent connection between the M9 and the Forth Road bridge, otherwise it would be the outskirts of Dundee before you met one!
I've noticed over recent years that they are becoming more common on the Continent - the Germans especially seem to like them!
Edited by b308 on 15/05/2009 at 11:47
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It's good to have grade separated junctions on trunk roads but we need far more mini-roundabouts at suburban T junctions. At peak times it can take ages to emerge onto a not-very-main road. It shouldn't cost much to paint a big white circle and a few give way lines - they make a huge difference to traffic flow.
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It's good to have grade separated junctions on trunk roads but we need far more mini-roundabouts at suburban T junctions.
It would be even better to train motorists in the correct use of same.
- they make a huge difference to traffic flow.
For the reason quoted above, no they don't at the moment.
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Mini roundabouts....aargh!
Slow down and/or stop on a main road, increase fuel consumption and emissions
Good earner for the treasury though, a bit like speed bumps
Hate the things
The yanks don't do roundabouts, they have more sense
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Join mini-roundabout by swerving to the left.
Straighten up/apply a bit of right lock to go straight on.
Following driver nearly T-bone's my offside because the clot had assumed I was turning left.
Mini-roundabouts suck.
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Heh heh ifithelps... That's why I try not to take any notice of them at all, apart from giving priority to stuff coming from the right.
A lot of them are so badly placed that the logical route when turning right may be to go the wrong side of them. And when it is, I do.
I look forward to being pulled for this by an incautious jobsworth young plod. Boy will he get an earful.
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The yanks don't do roundabouts they have more sense
Not more sense, more acres - for large traffic-light-controlled intersections. But they probably have more patience as they are happy to stop/start thru countless traffic lights. Is that what you would prefer? At least with mini-roundabouts you are more likely to pass them without actually stopping.
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