Martin Brundle commented on Hamilton's car lifting a front wheel in some of the slower bends. Like a Lotus Cortina or my Singer Vogue estate minicab.
I think the Renaults were doing it too. Unusual in F1.
Edited by Webmaster on 18/04/2009 at 17:08
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I found some of the discussion on the diffuser interesting in the BBC coverage. Brawn apparently raised the possibility of loop-holes in the new regulations a few years back. And some other teams (who now complain) rejected discussion - as if they thought they had the upper hand.... so Brawn went and did his thing with the design ;-)
More interesting is the Red Bull cars are ahead and they do not have the double diffuser. So as Brawn said there's more to their advantage than just a diffuser.
I'm liking this season so far.
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I once flew to Brazil with a bit of a McLaren on my lap. I think the bloke next to me said it was a cam shaft. He had been told to bring it out to the Brazilian GP on the hurry up and was struggling to cope with it on such a long flight. He had been sworn not to let it go in the hold and had taken it on as hand baggage. Would be banned now no doubt in case it was a weapon I suppose.
Don't know why I've remembered that or even thought anyone might find it interesting but there it is.
Edited by Webmaster on 18/04/2009 at 17:08
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retitled as per the ignored "Please note" comment at the start of the thread!
Very sorry Webmaster. I remembered, but too late alas.
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Too easily done as I found to my cost of a public flogging at the start of his volume ;>)
Congrats to the winners for a well deserved win this time out.
This season looks a bit more promising than a Red parade of years gone by.
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I got bored and went outside to help Mrs W muck out the guinea pigs. Anyone know who won?
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...Anyone know who won?....
Well, there was a provisional result declared at the finish of the race, but that usually only leads to a week of arguments/accusations/hearings/appeals.
It would be a step forward if the organisers could guarantee a GP is finished at the drop of the chequered flag.
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Well there was a provisional result declared at the finish of the race .......>>
Oh dear, one of those, was it :-(
Thanks
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..Oh dear, one of those, was it :-(...
Well, not quite, but there's still time. :)
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No, it wasn't 'one of those'. It was a great race, very eventful, although difficult to follow through the clouds of spray. The excellent Webber got his best ever result. Hamilton had an eventful day with four offs, and had to overtake Raikonnen three times.
Heavy rain favours the delicate, smooth, well-balanced and young over the big battalions. Remember the F2 Cooper-Bristol beating all the F1 cars in the rain at Silverstone? All the drivers interviewed looked knackered after the race, but Button, while fairly happy to have finished on the step ladder, was looking positively middle-aged. He is the same age as my youngest daughter.
Ferrari had another naff day. And KERS seems to offer no advantage in the wet even with cars and drivers who can make it work.
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Good quip from Mike Gascoyne ribbing David Coulthard before the race as part of the BBC commentary....something about him walking into a room when DC was only 19 yrs old and preparing for his first race and being surprised about the poor quality of his underpants
....DC just laughed and stated he'd upgraded since then
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funny how well the red bulls are doing now david coulthard is racing from the commentary box............
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I was very impressed with the way Toyota changed the nose of Glocks car in 10.3 secs
The special sack barrow with the new nose unit on it IMO was a very neat way of doing things. I am not aware of other teams using this approch rather than chucking a new nose at the car.
Much more interesting than the splash around. :-)
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But webber is also doing better so they must have improved the car.... isn't it Newey at Red Bull.
The way I see it Red Bull doing well with Newey (who was a key person at Mclaren once). And BrawnGP are doing well with Brawn who was go good at Ferrari and Benetton.
So maybe it's not too surprising these teams can do well. It does help that BrawnGP is still well funded this year by Honda - hence the lack of sponsors not yet being a problem. And if they carry on they will attract a few I would imagine.
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But I forgot Brawn was also at Arrows....
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how well the red bulls are doing now david coulthard...
Oooh! Get her! (one is tempted to cry).
Don't be such a football fan, AE...
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Hamilton has been quoted (Ceefax) as saying that he's not disappointed Dennis has gone.
That's nice.
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Hamilton has been quoted.... not disappointed Dennis has gone.
Hamilton is and was talented. But if it wasn't for Dennis and Mclaren where would Hamilton be? He owes them a lot.
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I've been thoroughly unimpressed with him recently.
As soon as it became apparent the car wouldn't beat the other drivers for him, he was moaning and making 'I'm off' noises.
He then blames everyone but himself for telling porkies to the stewards.
I wouldn't want Hamilton behind me in a tight spot - guy can't be relied upon.
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I've been thoroughly unimpressed with him recently. >>
Given the poor performing car that he has, and the positions where he has started the races from, I have been impressed with his driving in all the 3 races so far.
Even today, despite falling off the road 4 times, he managed a decent points finish.
As soon as it became apparent the car wouldn't beat the other drivers for him, he was moaning and making 'I'm off' noises. He then blames everyone but himself for telling porkies to the stewards. I wouldn't want Hamilton behind me in a tight spot - guy can't be relied upon. >>
I prefer to listen to and read the full facts [as one who has any regard for the rule of law and order should] from multiple sources rather than jump to any wild conclusions based on heavily slanted and edited tabloid journalism. I have come to the conclusion that from the current crop of F1 drivers, Lewis is certainly one guy that I would be very happy to have on my side any day. Another of the very few drivers I would not hesitate choose to have on my side is Vettel. Incidentally Lewis and McLaren have so far blamed one and only one person for the "telling porkies". The FIA hearing next week should soon establish if that was the whole truth or not.
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Hamilton has been quoted (Ceefax) as saying that he's not disappointed Dennis has gone. That's nice. >>
I watched the interview live, and that gave a completely different impression to the written ceefax report. The bit that reported wish to ignore is Lewis saying:
" I was surprised, but I had not heard about it. I was just as surprised as the rest of my team,"
"Ron has been a huge force and support in my life, and he still plays a key role in my life. Whether or not he is in the team or not, I think you guys have been writing about it for years that as soon as he gets to a certain stage he will move aside. I guess, I don't know why, he decided to do it now."
Edited by jbif on 19/04/2009 at 23:44
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So far, this has been a very "interesting" season.
Do you think they will be able to make the Monaco GP interesting?
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Vettel was most impressive to my eyes. I can believe that cars have more power, handle better, are set-up better etc. etc. But wet weather driving tens to flatten those advantages to a great extent - to drive without drama or incident for 2 hours & win comfortably in those conditions is the purest test of driving skill & technique. LH does seem more fallible now - the corner he managed to fall off several times was an opportunity to show a quick learning ability - which he failed to do. Without his 'offs' he might well have competed for a good podium position.
What can one say about Ferrari though - I predict internecine warfare pretty soon. Italian flair & passion mixed with German precision & English phlegm (..the good kind!) won them multiple championships.. whither Ferrari now?
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I for one think this season has been exactly the shot in the arm the sport needed in terms of bringing new players to the front.
It has rather highlighted that Massa is only as good as the car he drives, even more so Kimi who seems to be coasting even more this year - I think he is Ferrari's Coultard, albeit with a WC.
Iam happy Hamilton is salvaging results at all given where his car was at the beginning of the season, plus I live just 4 miles from the factory where his engine ( and Jensons ) engines are made, so its very important to support your local business ( I have two customers who work there too! ).
A great race, sorted men from the boys and made for great viweing - I anticipate each race and have so far enjoyed them all very much.
Just a word on Donnington - I heard through a corporate source that they havent a hope in hell of having a GP there anytime soon.
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... happy Hamilton is salvaging results .. >>
James Allen, on his blog allenonf1.wordpress.com/ , has this to say about Hamilton's performance at Shanghai:
" ... He started brightly, attacking in the opening laps and making up places. He passed Raikkonen for 6th place on the first racing lap, then Trulli for 5th, then dropped back to 10th. He passed Kovalainen, Raikkonen again and was 4th on lap 24, with pace not too far off Button?s. He pitted on lap 33 and at that time his pace was comparable with drivers who were already on new wet tyres. So the tyres held up quite well in the first stint and all was going well. Perhaps the two safety car periods had given his tyres the right treatment.
But he pushed very hard in the opening laps of the second stint, fuel adjusted he wasn?t far off Vettel?s times. On lap 35 for example, he did a 1m55.153, a second faster than Button despite being significantly heavier and only 1.3 secs slower than Vettel (who was about to pit) despite his fuel weight slowing him by 2 secs/lap.
However he had taken too much out of the tyres. His pace dropped off after lap 44 and a spin on lap 49 lost him fifth place to team mate Heikki Kovalainen.
Here Lewis frankly admits that he didn?t deliver the kind of performance he expects of himself in those conditions. .. "
Edited by jbif on 20/04/2009 at 13:11
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>>Just a word on Donnington - I heard through a corporate source that they havent a hope in hell of having a GP there anytime soon.
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Thanks for the update - a good source
"Legal battle threatens British GP"
news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/80...m
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Apparently its now the "Governments" fault that Bernie moved the British GP to an unsuitable venue with an unrealistic business plan, and unachievable timescales.
Perhaps the BBC as a government organisation should demand the return of Bernies fee for the TV rights as he has failed to deliver to contract.
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I think most people knew that Donnington would not be ready for the GP in 2010. It should have stayed at Silverstone where they had exciting races with plenty of overtaking.
But of course the midgit and the nasti couldn't get their own way with the Silverstone commitee, so they moved it.
I am becoming fed up with F1, I don't care who wins these days.
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I watched the interview live,
Quite, jbif. I may have teased AE somewhere above for sounding like a football fan, but to give the devil his due I don't think he would be happy at Millwall or Leeds, as some evidently would.
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