Vauxhall - GM Europe: Facts and Fiction

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Tue 17 Mar 2009 19:47
GM Europe: Facts and Fiction - Pugugly
Its a fair shot - may be propaganda, but at least they've set their corporate stall out.

By the way seen plenty of 58 and 09 Insignias on my travels.
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Tue 17 Mar 2009 22:11
GM Europe: Facts and Fiction - Alby Back
Didn't really like the Insignia until I saw one in black today. Somehow it suited it. Even managed to look quite swish I thought. Actually GMs designs are becoming more interesting in general. That Astra three door VXR coupe thing appeals to my inner boy ( should read "old flatulant" ) racer.
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Wed 18 Mar 2009 06:05
GM Europe: Facts and Fiction - Brit_in_Germany
Doesn't sound too convincing to me - written by PR types using weasel words. The German taxes bit was stretching the term "facts" to the limit.
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Wed 18 Mar 2009 07:16
GM Europe: Facts and Fiction - Manatee
Very weasely - some of the rebuttals almost confirm the 'myths'. e.g. the response on the German taxes question doesn't say they didn't do it - only that they aren't doing anything illegal.

No mention of Saab.
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Wed 18 Mar 2009 08:33
GM Europe: Facts and Fiction - madf
Well of course they are in trouble because of the US: GM has consistently been mismanaged since the 1960s and its model lineup - like all US car makers - reflects the US inability to manage their waistlines. (human that is) and GM's inability to innovate.


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Wed 18 Mar 2009 08:40
GM Europe: Facts and Fiction - mss1tw
They were still driving lardy great behemoths in the 60's though, and were slimmer then.

The UK isn't so pint sized any more either...
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Wed 18 Mar 2009 08:48
GM Europe: Facts and Fiction - Chris White
No mention of Saab.


Saab mentioned on GM Facts and Fiction website, not the Europe one (tinyurl.com/dcot39)

They also give you the option there that if you?re not sure what to believe about GM, submit the rumor here, and we?ll give you a straight answer.
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Thu 10 Sep 2009 10:02
GM Europe: Facts and Fiction - Pugugly
Looks like GM are keeping hold of GM Europe - well according to the BBC
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Thu 10 Sep 2009 16:36
GM Europe: Facts and Fiction - Pugugly
Well, they were wrong and its been sol to Magna.
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Thu 10 Sep 2009 18:05
GM Europe: Facts and Fiction - Lud
Gigantism is seductive for its colossal politician-dominating power and profitability, but tends to unravel over time. They think they'll be riding an elephant with a smile on their faces and end up herding cats in the mud and running out of elastoplast for the scratches.

No reason to believe all these assets are just going to vanish overnight. No reason to suppose either that they will all survive unscathed.

I must say I hope I will be able to afford one of those Monaro things (they have all sorts of names) before they disappear and are replaced by something less amusing.
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