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Does anybody know if the new VW 1.4TSI 122PS and 1.8TSI 160PS petrol engines as fitted into the Skoda Superb Mk 2 suffer from any problems, especially the piston/bore ovalisation that plagued the 1.4 and 1.6FSI engines?
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Did you find any information about the 1.4 engine? I'm also interested in the 1.4 TSI in a Superb. On paper it looks like a good option. However I can't find any demonstrators with this engine fitted. The demonstrators are mostly diesel 170CR - guess that's what the company market demands today.
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I'm also concerned about long term reliability given I tend to keep my cars a long time. Perhaps the old 1.9 diesel is a better bet despite the noise as that engine is well known.
Edited by merlin on 14/03/2009 at 11:32
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I have found out nothing about the durability of the 1.4/1.8 TSI engines. I wonder what happens if the water cooled inlet intercooler leaks, it should be interesting. Skoda UK can't find me a 1.4 demonstrator or even any Superb in S trim just to have a look at. It seems to be a difficult time to try to buy a new car! I will let you know if I am ever offered a test drive in the 1.4.
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I had the same problem trying to find a S spec Superb. Most demonstrators are Elegance with the odd SE. They can't be selling many S ones if they don't provide demonstrators. One option is to find a Greenline spec. The engine won't be the same but the interior should be very close if not the same as the S version. There were/are a few Greenlines around if you search on autotrader or the skoda used website. Unfortunately they are too far away from me to be worth making the journey to see.
Yesterday after posting on this thread I did some searches on the HJ site for 1.4 and TSI. The same engine is used in other VAG products so there are discussions on here relating to other models with the 1.4 TSI engine. I came away with the impression that it's not worth the risk of buying a car with this engine if I want to run it into old age.
I then went onto search for threads on common rail which overall were more positive. I'm now thinking about a Superb 170 CR with the SE spec. After ringing round a few garages yesterday it looks like even finding a demonstrator in this spec is going to be difficult.
Why don't car companies have a place where they have all models available for testing?
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A Superb with a 1.4 engine? Gutless surely
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From talking to someone who's driven one, apparently not. He was a dealer though so he might have been a bit biased. However it does get a good writeup in a number of reviews I've read so maybe the 1.4 TSI is up to the job.
Edited by merlin on 15/03/2009 at 14:28
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I have a Mk1 diesel Superb and have had various test drives in the Mk2 as the dealers have a real job on their hands shifting them. The 1.4 petrol is not underpowered for any reasonable road use although it has nothing like the low speed grunt of my AWX diesel.
I would be somewhat concerned about its long term prospects though in view of the engine stress (thermally and mechanically) and sheer complexity.
The Mk2 is a useful well thought out car although the lack of properly folding rear seats (as in the Mk1) and the stupidly complex rear door operation would irritate me. It's a more lightly built chassis than the Mk1 (think stretched Golf rather than stretched Passat) and as such would not be as good a towcar. The non-DPF equipped diesels are also not powerful enough for my particular job. I don't fancy DPF roulette in the heavy traffic mine has to operate in.
I wish them the best of luck with it - if mine is anything to go by, there are no build standard problems. As with the Mk1, the marketing is a bit ill-conceived - who are they aiming it at? The estate is too late.
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think stretched Golf rather than stretched Passat
The Passat is now a stretched Golf too mind ;-)
I'm not sure who it's aimed at. I fancied one but didn't the time before last because we couldn't get VAG cars at the time via the company scheme and the youngest did not want a Skoda ;-) And he's too young to remember the jokes.
For the next car I will seriously think about a Skoda but by 2011 there might be an Octavia Mk III hybrid ;-)
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