I got my Pug 406 estate in the shed/barn here, it just about fits. The alternative is a car doing golf ball impressions due to the hail: tinyurl.com/cv5n2f
>Those can't fare any worse than on outdoor cars which never get dehumidified.
Yes they can, it's warmer in a garage, right? No ventilation so it condenses all over your car in places it doesn't reach on cars parked outside.
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Why on earth leave a valuable car outside when you have a garage (providing it fits of course).
Too many people acquire junk and then fill their garage with it and when that is full, they build a garden shed and when that is full, perhaps use a redundant old greenhouses and so on. I can't imagine what their houses must be like - full of junk, I would guess.
The TV programme "How Clean is your house" shows how some people are prepared to live and demonstrates that they cannot manage their lives properly, or get their priorities right.
My family has two cars, the smaller of which is, of course, garaged. My car, unfortunately, has to stand outside on the drive and this the Insurance company knows about.
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>>No ventilation so it condenses allover your car in places it doesn't reach on cars parked outside.<<
my car is in a heated garage
no rain
no condensation
and easy for me to drive off with my early starts :-)
Edited by Pugugly on 24/01/2009 at 19:04
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Harleys and pick-up (when it's at home) in garage. Cars outside; but planning a new "shed" as we call 'em down here so that may change.
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>my car is in a heated garage
Gah! I hate you (draughty wooden barn 80 feet from the house)
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Heated garage? Must have some coin to do that, some folks can barely afford to heat the house.
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I have a heated garage, I had a rad put in when the CH was being installed - and it has a carpet (which the previous owners had put down) !
Cars outside though !
Garage has 2 bikes and a trailer (loads of other stuff)
Other outbuildings will take vehicles - but rarely bother.
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Dare I use the C word here? I keep my Caravan and my weekend track-day toy www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/motorbikes/2723195/A-...l plus my Quad bike. No room for the car!
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Last car I kept in a garage was my Westfield. Had three garages then ( Ooohh get 'im! )
Miss it so.....
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Humph,
Three garages is OK, but a triple garage is just too stockbroker belt.
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Having now a (very) small car for the first time in our lives, it goes in the garage because (1) it will (2) it has power steering (3) it gets it out of the way and (4) it does seem to keep off the moss. The Mondeo lives outside because it must. I'm astonished (and envious) at the luxurious quarters for their cars that posters seem to have available. Brand new houses down the road with integral garages:not the slightest sign of anyone trying to get a car into them.
Any of the de-humidifier contingent care to give further particulars? How much space do they take up, running costs etc. I too have worries about whether the small car is really better or worse off in the garage than outside. Is a heated garage really better than an unheated one or (because of the condensation point) actually worse?
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Next question:
Do you lock it when it's in the garage? Only recently acquired a house with integral garage, and although the garage door is locked and that's behind a sliding locked garden gate, I still lock the car.
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Art my own house I have a long wide garage, enough to have a workbench down the side with all the associated shelving and storage, and then bikes, lawnmowers etc at the back and still space to fit the Altea in it.
Now I must admit, the only times of the year the car goes in the garage are
a. During the summer if I have spent a relaxing day washing, polishing etc then it goes in the garage to stay that way (a polished shiny car seems to turn into a target practice for pigeons!)
b. during the frosty weather for obvious reasons.
The rented modern house I am living in just now has an integral garage, possibly wide enough to get a car in but you better make it a convertible if you want to get out it! No wonder so many garages here are converted into rooms.
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My Pug 306 lives in the garage, but the Espace has to sleep outside. Unfortunately everyone else in our road with more than one car seems to abide by the five pounds worth of junk in the garage principle, and finding an Espace space means leaving it at the other end of the road some nights which is a pain if we need it to take the kids to school in the morning.
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Years ago, a good friend of mine kept an old Leyland FG box van on his drive. He had a ramp constructed up to the rear roller doors, into which he could just squeeze his mk1 fiesta and a couple of motorbikes. Always used to amuse me as the ultimate in "instant garages"
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How his neighbours must have laughed !
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How his neighbours must have laughed !
Not sure you could get away with that sort of thing these days. The van would have to be declared Sorn for starters!!!
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I do. Always have done.
Seems to me a bit selfish to keep a car on the road if you have a garage (but then again, that's because I live where the streets are very narrow, and there's not really enough room to keep cars on the roads).
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old car is in the garage, new ones are parked on the road as driveway is too small... the joys of living in London.
Shed in back garden houses the bike (with a ground anchor attached to the concrete under the shed floor).
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In answer to the OP's question....Yes I do as well, although only recently organised things and cleared stuff out to make room for our new aquisition - and to rise to the height of luxury, had the door automated. I don't put it away dripping wet though on the basis that it will dry quicker in the open (provided, of course, it stops raining). I did recently drive home via a lane covered in about 4 foot of mud and, as it's still newish, hosed the wheelarches out in the pouring rain - my neighbours were polite enough not to comment. Re. insurance premiums - am fairly sure my insurers don't discriminate between parking on own driveway or putting it away.
Edited by KB. on 24/01/2009 at 22:47
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>Houses down the road with integral garages:not the slightest sign of anyone trying to get a car into them.
Daughter and SiL have an integral garage, and it's not easy to walk into it, never mind get a car in. Both their Qashqais occupy most of their hard standing, so it's not easy for us to park when we visit.
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>No ventilation so it condenses all over your car in places it doesn't reach on cars parked outside.
If all those leaves can get in under the door, I'm sure the moisture can get out.
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I can never understand the logic of putting an old nail worth £300 in the garage and leaving thousands of pounds worth of bikes, tools and gardening equipment outside.
Madness.
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I can never understand the logic of putting an old nail worth £300 in the garage
Especially so since Reliants have fibreglass bodies and don't rust! ;-)
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I built the garage where I keep the Jowett myself. It was initially to keep our 13ft caravan in because of some Manchester Poplars overhanging the site. I built it with the front part of the roof being able to be lifted 20 inches to get the van in. With the purchase of a 17ft van last year I had to extend the roof jacks and cut a hole in the door for the towbar...I decided it was too much bother so I took down the car port where the car had been and swapped them over. I now have a 19x11 area with only a car in it up on axle stands for now. The height enabled me to build a sort of cock-loft for storage of other stuff. Building new doors now to incorporate 4 stained glass, double glazed units I have been given.
Ted
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Ted that almost sounds like Tracy Island !
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Indeed, Pugly. Pals have christened it 'The Palace of Pleasure'..mainly due to the model railway. Got brew facilities and heat so makes a good meeting place for like minded folk.
Ted
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Mine stays in the garage all winter because it's heated and we've had plenty of minus 20 nights this year. I always leave it unlocked with the keys in the ignition, tucked against one wall which leaves about a metre or so to pass to the little back room that contains the lawn mower and a thousand pairs of wifey's shoes.
Never garage it in Summer, rarely ever bother locking it, but just make sure the ipod and sat nav aren't on show and always keep the electric gate blipper safely in the house.
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Where I live, most of the garages have been converted into rooms, so every driveway has at least one car on it. I think we're the only house with a garage now, and that was built by the previous owner after they'd converted the original garage into a dining room.
There is one slight problem though - my Accord goes in with about 2cm each side to spare, but it's narrower than a lot of similar cars (the BMW 335d I'm looking at changing to in the summer is 11cm wider...)
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My 'double' garage ( which has a door only 12' wide, so not quite double IMHO) has half a dozen bikes, two freezers, washing machine, tumble dryer, assorted junk plus model railway. I suspect this 'junk' is probably worth more than my lovely green Vectra anyway!
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All three cars are garaged.
Space for deep freeze, workbench, storage of vegetables, tools, garden tools, mini greenhouse in winter, defunct washing machine waiting repairs, barbecue and several hundred bamboo canes.
The pit is quite dry but the railway sleepers bridging it are now quite rotten and need to be replaced soon.
6 Power points - sorry eight.
Spoilt?
Yes.
Edited by madf on 26/01/2009 at 09:36
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The pit is quite dry ........
Lucky you. Mine has about 1" at the moment and my submersible pump won't prime in less than 2". I'll tackle it tomorrow, scooping the water into a 12" deep plastic container and then pumping it from there.
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>>I'll tackle it tomorrow scooping the water into a 12" deepplastic container and then pumping it from there.
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I have found a dustpan a good implement for scooping up shallow water, hth. Dont forget to return it on completion or you may get earache!
Edited by Old Navy on 26/01/2009 at 15:52
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I have found a dustpan a good implement for scooping up shallow water ........
That's exactly what I use. Great minds think alike.
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I keep my MX5 in the garage with it's roof down all year with a steering lock and an immobiliser.
I believe a previous car suffered with premature rust due to me religiously putting it away in the garage whether it was wet or dry. I now have a door and window at the opposite end of the garage to the main door, so on the rare occasion the 5 gets wet I leave the doors at both ends open to allow a good flow of air through to dry it off.
The best for the car (for rust prevention) would surely be a car port but this obviously does not provide any of the extra security a proper garage would give. I would have thought, although I am ready to be corrected, that a heated garage would be extremely bad for promoting corrosion unless it was very well ventilated thus wasting the heat unless a dehumidifier was used.
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Best for corrosion protection?
My experience of car corrosion is that it all depends on the car manufacturer.
If the car is not properly protected then the arguments over dehuidifers are worthless.
AFter all, to dry a car properly probably requires the removal of several litres of water - completely. And by that I mean ALL the internal and external surfaces are dry, there is no wet mud adhereing to the wheel arches etc.
Chances of that happeing without a large indutrial dehumidifer? Nil I suggest..
A heated garage and a wet car = acclerated rust.
With a history of keeping cars till 15 years old, prevention is key.
Our garage leaks air in the wind.. but cars will NOT dry out when the external temperature is below 5C - ie. for every night for 3-4 months in winter when salt and mud and water do their worst.
Prevention, monthly hosing underneath and toouching up of all chips have been good enough for us.
Will our 106 last till it is 20? Bodily probably yes.
That will be good enough - based on the actions above.
Edited by madf on 26/01/2009 at 10:25
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I do, the one we own.
The one we don't own stands on the drive.
The junk is in the garage where My son's car stood before he left home. Eventually I will get around to seeing if the car we don't own will fit. Side by side double garage.
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Also get about £12 a year off my insurance for keeping in the garage rather than on the drive.
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>>>Also get about £12 a year off my insurance
The difference between drive / garage for my Mazda6 was just over £2.
Barely worth a mention.
Clk Sec
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"The difference between drive / garage for my Mazda6 was just over £2.
Barely worth a mention."
I'll happily tick a box online when buying insurance if it saves me £2.00.
Over thge year, we count up our savings from that, changing energy suppliers, and using bogoff offers to buy items we need. Not inconsiderable.
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"The difference between drive / garage for my Mazda6 was just over £2. Barely worth a mention." I'll happily tick a box online when buying insurance if it saves me £2.00.
And having ticked the box, you risk invalidating your policy if you don't actually keep the car in the garage as required (which may be "always", or "usually", depending on the policy). I prefer to have the choice of whether to use the garage to store he car or store something else, and saving £2 to lose that choice seems like a very poor bargain.
It's a bit like those house insurers who offer a small discount if you have an alarm. Sounds great, until you realise that forgetting to set the alarm may invalidate your policy.
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And having ticked the box you risk invalidating your policy if you don't actually keep the car in the garage as required (which may be "always" or "usually" depending on the policy).
On the rare occasions I had to leave the car on the drive I phoned the insurance company to tell them, no extra cost for a week (not tried for any longer yet) but covered my back.
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"And having ticked the box, you risk invalidating your policy if you don't actually keep the car in the garage as required (which may be "always", or "usually", depending on the policy). "
I garage my car ALWAYS when it's at home. Mind you as I have the room, it makes sense to,
Each to their own choice as befits their lifestyle.
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I would urge anyone who has informed their insurer that their car will be garaged overnight, who might occasionally leave it on their driveway instead, to read the policy document and, if necessary, speak to their insurer.
Thank you, NowWheels.
Clk Sec
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