Something like Ebay item 130277376318 will form the basis for a much safer workshop lamp system.
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I like the conventional kind with a clamp for hooking onto things, preferably with a shock-proof bulb. But isn't it annoying that the shade is always in the wrong position in relation to the available clamping positions?
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Well! If those two've started a price war, then *they'll* be paying *us*, soon. I wonder whether they're exactly the same, & whether the same guarantee applies?
Incidentally, this is similar/the same:
www.cut-tools.de/product_info.php?language=en&prod...7
(61.5 Euros)
What's "protection class IP44"?
Edited by FotheringtonThomas on 12/01/2009 at 14:12
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Isn't there a danger of strobe effect on moving parts, the same as with flourescent tubes.
One reason we could all regret the passing of incandescent bulbs, unless there's going to be some sort of exemption.
Edited by bathtub tom on 12/01/2009 at 14:19
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Isn't there a danger of strobe effect on moving parts the same as with flourescent tubes.
Well, these *are* fluorescent tubes, but AFAIK the "strobe" problem is only seen in ones with a metal magnetic "ballast", which I don't think these have.
One reason we could all regret the passing of incandescent bulbs unless there's going to be some sort of exemption.
The absolute banning of incandescents is IMO a bad thing.
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"Isn't there a danger of strobe effect on moving parts, the same as with flourescent tubes."\
Only on really old stuff, usually those with the plug-in starters and electromagnetic ballasts.
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IP44 is all about taking electrical stuff into the bathroom/garden/shower.
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"IP44 is all about taking electrical stuff into the bathroom/garden/shower."
Only the second digit relates to water protection. To take it into the shower it would need to be IP X5.
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IIRC I've heard objections to 'low energy' bulbs from migraine sufferers and support groups because of a flicker effect.
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IIRC I've heard objections to 'low energy' bulbs from migraine sufferers and support groups because of a flicker effect.
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Latest today is - UV from a reading lamp, that was very close by, caused sunburn on a guy's ear.
He had swopped to LE bulb recently. Problem went away - with the bulb? :-)
Must be true it is in todays DT.
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IIRC I've heard objections to 'low energy' bulbs
All the myths or facts you may have heard, demystified here:
www.greenpeace.org.uk/climate/cfl-bulbs-the-myths
www.snopes.com/medical/toxins/cfl.asp
www.cflfacts.com/
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>> IIRC I've heard objections to 'low energy' bulbs All the myths or facts you may have heard demystified here:
IMO not true.
Start up of these bulbs is not good.
A so called 20W LE bulb does NOT create the same level of light as 100W.
They cannot decide what the equivalent wattage is. It varies by maker.
Until recently I could not get a bulb to fit in my bulkhead fittings. The NEW style LE one is very poor.
When I recently looked at spot lights 40W and 60W the LE was a 50W .
The flicker on my old electric fire is now doomed unless I stock up with 60W red bulbs.
What ever the shape, the LE bulbs look *** in a chandelier.
Guess what I have a store of old bulbs including inspection light bulbs.
My local wholeseller said 9K of 100W sold last week. 5K coming in today are all sold.
The also said that 240V halogen units are to be banned.
I can do electrics myself ( yes I know the new rules) but this sudden change over impacts on the elderly but HMG does not seem to care.
The so called FACTS seem to ignore the real world.
I have this vision of granny on the bus off to the tip to dispose of her bulbs because she is not aware of " (By July 2007, all retailers will have to provide CFL return and recycling facilities at their shops under an EU waste directive - IKEA is the only major retailer doing so at the moment.)
Judging by my facts. At my local main tip ( a London Borough ) there is a a small steel box with a door about three feet by three for spent tubes. Looks like domestic demand is not high.
I have a feeling that dead bulbs will go where theyhave always gone - in the bin.
This whole scene has been badly mismanaged.
I note they are almost giving away standard bulbs ( I understand they are subsidised) but all other bulbs are very highly priced. I wonder how long cheap LE bulbs will be around.
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www.ps-tools.com/catalog/makita-bmr100-job-site-ra...l
Its one of these I fancy - I must have an artisan's genes somewhere in my family tree. Beautiful mellow sound.
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Well said HK - we have been stocking up with the "old style" bulbs for the last year. Rumour has it that they will continue to be available in France - looks like the shopping list for quick trips to France will now be
1. Wine
2. Beer
3. Those lovely little cigars at less than half price
4. Light bulbs
(oh, and a good Logis and meal with wine for for 2 for less than £100 - despite the collapse of the pound)
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I have just swapped the LE bulps for the conventional ones in my table lamp as I just cannot read the newspaper with LE one without magnifier specs. Put the conventional one in and I can read no problem. The light is just so much brighter and crisper with the old bulbs.
I just placed a hefty order to stock up too
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I find that 23w cfls are a good 100w equivalent, 25w are also easy to find. Under powered cfls will always seem dim. The only application where I find 100w incandesant lamp better is in a pir controlled fitting in my garage (instant full brilliance).
Edited by Old Navy on 12/01/2009 at 19:37
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We've been stocking up too over the past months. I have amassed 45 100watters. Starting on the 'golf ball' type now. I have a fitting in the lounge that takes 'golf ball' with small edison screw. occasionally there will be a 'pop' and the glass part lands on the carpet unbroken...hence the need for supplies.
One of my lights in the workshop is a 500 watt halogen floodlight bolted to an old Audi A3 front disc. Very stable and keeps you warm this time of year.
Ted
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>>I find that 23w cfls are a good 100w equivalent, 25w are also easy to find.
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where?
>>1400ted
>>One of my lights in the workshop is a 500 watt halogen floodlight
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I have two old 1000W industrial halogens but they are a wee bit tooooo bright.
I must get round to disposing of them.
To my surprise I found a small supply of 150W "proper" bulbs in a small DIY place.
All I need now is some lamp holders so off to find some real brass ones.
meanwhile I must try to reduce my carbon footprint from Googling
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7823387.stm
And beware of my TV
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7820229.stm
and Power hungry plasma screen televisions to be banned under new EU legislation.
I think I need to walk around with a solar powered Ipod full of instructions on everything
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Just for info, Practical Classics this month have done a review of workshop lights of the clip-on and free standing types if anyone wants to compare...
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>>I find that 23w cfls are a good 100w equivalent 25w are also easy to find. >> where?
Google "25w cfl lamp", plenty of suppliers. Buy good quality ones, poor quality ones are just that.
Edited by Old Navy on 13/01/2009 at 09:50
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IMO not true
;-)
Henry K: Thanks. Now I know to come to you for well researched opinions on environmental matters and not rely on greenpeace. Also, when it comes to busting myths, henry k is da man, forget about snopes.
Edited by jbif on 13/01/2009 at 09:55
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How many crime writers does it take to change a light bulb ?
Two...one to screw it almost in and one to give it a surprising twist at the end !
I'll get me coat !
Ted
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