Please check those rear lights!!! - PhilW
Two fairly frightening experiences last night (apart from the generally awful conditions)while driving back from Glasgow to Midlands
1. Big artic on M6 near Preston in dark and torrential rain (and consequent spray) - no rear lights on trailer - virtually invisible until very close .
2. On A50 near Derby - motorcycle (small, going about 50 mph, no reflective jacket or other reflectors) with no rear light - again dark but no rain or spray.
Luckily, I was driving at sensible speeds for the conditions and saw them in time and avoided them without problems. But made me wonder
a. What can one do to alert them of the problem??
b. What could happen if they were come upon by the white van man who went past me earlier in a snowstorm near Lockerbie at 80/90 mph when all lane were covered in snow/slush and everyone else was doing 40/50 in inside lanes.
Hope they all survived unharmed
Phil
Please check those rear lights!!! - Devolution
I wish people would check their front lights too!

I cannot believe how many people have either got misaligned headlights or headlights out, or both! It seems to be spreading. I can't even drive locally for ten minutes without being blinded by somebodies car "searchlight" pointing everywhere but where it should.

I'd be far too be embarassed to drive my car with a light out. I have spare bulbs in the boot, just in case. And even if I don't clean my car for several weeks, I always wipe the lights, windows and mirrors regularly, including number plates to ensure both safety and legality.

I like to see and be seen.
Please check those rear lights!!! - Andrew-T
>It seems to be spreading.

It always seems to be spreading at this time of year, possibly because much more driving is done in the dark. It may be that about 10-15% of cars have a faulty headlight all the year round, but it isn't so noticeable in summer; or simply that the increased use in winter causes more failures.
Please check those rear lights!!! - csgmart
I wish people would check their front lights too!
I cannot believe how many people have either got misaligned headlights or headlights out or
both!


Very true but quite often these days with modern cars it's not as simple as changing it yourself. My wife's Renault Modus is a classic case in point - have to dismantle the whole front end just to get the lamp unit out as there is no access in the engine bay.

It's a job I've done twice before now so I know a few short cuts and the job was finished in under an hour - in very cold conditions so I didn't want to hang about.

I vote that car manufacturers are forced by law to make access to light bulbs easy.
Please check those rear lights!!! - L'escargot
I would imagine that a lot of the drivers who run a car on a shoestring (or whose car is neither taxed nor insured) aren't bothered about whether they have defective lights.
Please check those rear lights!!! - J500ANT
While we're on the subject of rear lights, the thing that annoys me is cars that only have the high level brake light - the rest of the brake lights not working. I'm amazed just how many cars there are suffering from this.
Please check those rear lights!!! - Mookfish
Just watched a friend change a bulb on a 10 year old lexus, involved unfastening 4 bolts in the boot (with a socket, can't get a spanner onto them) and removing the rear light cluster, seems a bit over the top, although maybe a box spanner or something was supplied with the car when it was new?

Also I was followed by a police car thursday evening (Volvo so probably traffic police) with one headlight badly misaligned, had to dip the rear view mirror to avoid being blinded.
Please check those rear lights!!! - oilrag
And the front lights!

The van has a very dark tint on the rear window (rather than steel, the alternative) but you can see out of it well enough in daytime and easily see headlights behind at night.... and of course in dusk and fog mirrors pick headlights easily.

But a couple of weeks back in in heavy traffic semi dark and fog on the motorway I became aware of a `vision` really close up to the back window. I could just make out a human upper body in a light grey rectangle - startlingly near.

A dark grey - fog coloured car, no lights, then peeled off from about 6ft from my back bumper and proceeded alongside as it went up the exit slip road. I could just make out the shape through the (obviously untinted) side windows.

It had gradually crept up behind merging with the fog, no lights at all until just behind my rear window and the `ghostly` rectangle with the figure - ridiculously close behind was the lighter `colour` of the windscreen and cabin - illuminated internally by headlights further back.

Please check those rear lights!!! - doctorchris
That wasn't an Earthly car, Oilrag, it was the Spectre of the Motorway who died in a horrific accident many years ago because his lights didn't work!
You're lucky he peeled off onto the slip-road, you could have been his next victim to be taken away to the Underworld.
Please check those rear lights!!! - gordonbennet
Very simple cure for manufacturers that make something as simple as a bulb change into a dealer visit and an hour's labour...

Don't buy their junk, they'll soon sharpen up.

I get very fed up of seeing vehicles with not only one headlight, usually the same side light will be out too, beware the one eyed monster.
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Easy cure again, pull em and fine em, easy nick and box ticked.

Not quite so bad with a faulty rear light as the vehicles usually have reflectors, and they shouldn't be approaching you at speed either.
Please check those rear lights!!! - Harleyman
I get very fed up of seeing vehicles with not only one headlight usually the
same side light will be out too beware the one eyed monster.
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Easy cure again pull em and fine em easy nick and box ticked.


If only they would.... I asked a copper about this a few weeks back, his answer was that whilst it's easier to spot them it's more dangerous to stop them after dark. I can understand the logic but I suspect that the bottom line is that it doesn't get 'em as many brownie points as a speeding ticket.
Please check those rear lights!!! - L'escargot
Very simple cure for manufacturers that make something as simple as a bulb change into
a dealer visit and an hour's labour...


You obviously haven't considered the problems of fitting everything in under the bonnet. I've looked in my car's engine compartment and I can't see anything which could be moved to a different position.

If the underbonnet space was larger you'd only be complaining about the exterior dimensions being too large.
Please check those rear lights!!! - gordonbennet
If the underbonnet space was larger you'd only be complaining about the exterior dimensions being
too large.


Space efficiency is somewhere at the bottom of my list of priorities, the crammed in disposable car doesn't (until the govt of the day, term used advisedly, provides cars for free) interest me in the least, i'll put up with old fashioned RWD maintainable vehicles for as long as they are still running.
Please check those rear lights!!! - theterranaut
There's a nice feature that VW group cars have, and I was reminded of this the other week when I saw a Fabia exiting a car park with the outer LEDs on the high-level brake lamp illuminated.

I caught the attention of the driver, smiled in a friendly way, and asked him to press his brake pedal- no left and right hand brake lamps. He was pleased to know but a bit puzzled as to how I knew. I told him of a Mk4 Golf I had that developed the same interesting light pattern, and how I'd find out that VW had engineered this in as a warning.

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Please check those rear lights!!! - Harleyman
I told him of
a Mk4 Golf I had that developed the same interesting light pattern and how I'd
find out that VW had engineered this in as a warning.


Good, and clever; unfortunately it still relies on the driver actually CHECKING the rear lights once in a while.

I have to check my lights daily on my lorry, as part of my duties, and I guess I just get into the habit; the old thing of "First Parade" will be familiar to any ex-servicemen on here. I suspect that as cars have become more mechanically reliable, many drivers rarely check even the oil level, so lights have no chance!
Please check those rear lights!!! - Statistical outlier
I've started to wonder whether, at least in London, the high level brake light only is a gang thing or something? Reason I wonder is I've seen a number of new (57 and newer) cars with this 'feature', and I saw a 57 plated Corsa with the affliction get pulled by a police armed response unit..

No idea if there's anything to my theory, but it's more interesting than lazy bulb replacement.
Please check those rear lights!!! - doctorchris
Thanks, PhilW, you reminded me to check the lights on the car when I checked tyre pressures, oil, screenwash, etc. today.
The lights were all working but it gave me peace of mind to know I had done it.
Please check those rear lights!!! - freddy1
I ride a motorcycle , a nice old classic , and the biggest problem with rear lights is vibration,

although mine is converted to 12v , and bulbs are easier to obtain , problems still happen,

Now the obvious sollution is to fit a LED bulb , but thos causes problems,

1: on the std LED bulbs , halfords etc , there is no downfeed for the No plate light

2: LED bulbs "are" actually illigal , and marked as "not for road use" ,

I said "sod the law" and bought some 48 led bulbs from ebay , , those shine backwards , and sideways,

my safety comes before Mr blair , or whoevers stupid laws,
Please check those rear lights!!! - stunorthants26
I saw a 58 plate Nissan Pathfinder this morning with a rear light out - how do bulbs fail so quickly? I dont really blame the driver in that case as it would be resonable on their part to assume the bulbs would last atleast a year!

Im lucky that I have a white garage door that I back up to, so I can see quite easily if I have a light out.
Please check those rear lights!!! - Dynamic Dave
Im lucky that I have a white garage door that I back up to so I can see quite easily if I have a light out.


The display on the dash of my car tells me if I have a bulb out, and which one(s).
Please check those rear lights!!! - Old Navy
The display on the dash of my car tells me if I have a bulb
out and which one(s).

Dealer dismantaling job to change one?
Please check those rear lights!!! - Harleyman
58 plate Nissan Pathfinder this morning with a rear light out -
how do bulbs fail so quickly? I dont really blame the driver in that case
as it would be resonable on their part to assume the bulbs would last atleast
a year!


I've known new cars on the showroom floor to have duff bulbs; it just happens. With the old-type household bulbs you quite often got one that only lasted a couple of days, car bulbs are no different in their basic construction yet you're assuming that they'll last longer even when being bumped, rattled etc? Don't think so.

Check the warranty section of any new or used car; it will specifically exclude bulbs.

I personally WOULD blame the driver; it's his responsibility to maintain his vehicle in a roadworthy condition, and no-one else's. The relative newness of the car would not be a defence if a bobby stopped him.
Please check those rear lights!!! - grumpyscot
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At least he was civil and not one of the arrogant swagger type cops who think they know it all..................
Please check those rear lights!!! - grumpyscot
Oops - sorry - must have said something wrong in previous entry - which I can't be bothered to repeat now.

Honestly, I didn't swear or use offensive language.
Please check those rear lights!!! - L'escargot
However did we manage before someone invented brake lights, high intensity rear lights, and indicator lights? Well, we did!
Please check those rear lights!!! - john96
Ive tried several times switching my rear fogs on and off as I pass them, but they prob think its me braking!!