Warranties ar they worth having ? - volvoman

Hi chaps,

The subject of warranties often seems to come up, how about letting us all know your experiences good (if any !) and bad ? Can we name names ? - the good, the bad and the ugly !-
Warranties ar they worth having ? - Andrew Hamilton
No. No one I know bothers with them. They are all so shot full of exclusions they are just a marketing excercise to con car buyer into thinking he will never have a problem with his expensive new motor.
Warranties ar they worth having ? - JohnnyBoy
I called the dealer offering the re-engined BMW 5-series; the max claim that could be made on his warranty costing £200 would be £700. He also told me he'd spent almost £6k on the car, despite offering it to me for £3750!!
God help whoever buys the damn thing.

I bought a warranty on my first car as I was young & stupid - I never buy a warranty on any car or any electrical goods - I just thought I'd ask this "dealer" to see how keen he'd be to guarantee this terrific engine - his reaction spoke volumes.
Warranties ar they worth having ? - The Watcher
I act as an agent for importing cars and have two imported cars myself (or will have after I collect the BMW from Germany!).

As many may know, imports fromEurope generally have a shorter warranty than UK cars. The Euro warranties tend to be for 2 years depending on manufacturer byt Toyota, Honda, Nissan and Subarus come with a European 3 year warranty. Some make still only offer a 1 year warranty.

My first import, a Zafira, came with a 1 year warranty which ran out at the end of June this year. I have not extended it and don't intend to. I saved £4500 on Vauxhall's price for the 1.8i Elegance to the same spec buying in Holland. (You wont save that much now due to the currency movement.) I figure I'll have to have quite a few, expensive warranty repairs before the savings are seriously undermined and, it would be moved on before that happens.

The BMW 320d from Germany will have a 2 year warranty and Im saving £5300 compared to UK price because I've increased the spec. Again, when the warranty runs out, I will not extend it.

Personally, I'd rather have the choice of warranty period on a car. IMHO, 3 years is too long and is wasted money. I don't bother with extended warranties for household goods either as they are a waste of money too.
Warranties ar they worth having ? - Crombster
Approved used car warranties from franchised dealers are definately good to have, although in my experience third party offerings have far too many clauses to be worth bothering about.
Warranties ar they worth having ? - Roger K.
On used car warranties, beware of "diagnostic fees" which you have to pay to the garage doing the repairs.
This fee was not mentioned on my policy, but after prolonged discussion I managed to get it refunded.
Warranties ar they worth having ? - Vansboy
Many dealers will include the most basic cover available, then offer to improve on that at extra cost. This gives more peace of mind to the customer but in most cases an extra profit opportunity for the dealer.
We are currently offering the customer the chance to have the benefit of up to 4 years cover on their vehicle, with the added bonus of being able to reclaim total cost of the warranty,should no claims have been made, at the end of the cover period.
Obviously the customer is providing an interest free loan to the warranty company and the warranty company is relying on the customer forgetting to reclaim their money.
Good deal or what?
Mark.
Warranties ar they worth having ? - Johnny20
I think they are worth it, especially on cars with 50k up when things start going wrong.
My dad extended the warrenty by four years on the '95 Corolla he gave to me and in the last year it's payed for a new water pump and a new radiator. Excellent for me as i'm at college and earning peanuts (don't really like the taste, but hey wotcha gonna do).
Just got to justify the cost as the car gets older though, to extend it again this year would be £250. Hmmmm
Warranties ar they worth having ? - PB
This is like any insurance, depends on your philosophy. You don't get something for nothing. I figure if I have to spend £1000 on a repair, it's painful but it doesn't change my life - so why spend £200 on insurance? If my house burned down I couldn't afford to rebuild it so I insure it!
Warranties ar they worth having ? - MarkyMarkD
Well done PB. That's exactly the attitude to have with insurance. The insurer makes money, so in principle it isn't worth having. Only worthwhile if you can't afford the replacement value in the event of a catastrophe.

Can't force myself into third party car insurance though, even though the most I've ever claimed is £1200 (for a write-off).
Warranties ar they worth having ? - Dizzy {P}
I wholeheartedly agree with PB and MMD.

From the premium, take away the percentage that the dealer pockets, then a bit more for the warrantee company's bosses and shareholders, then some more for the administration and paperwork, then some more to pay the area manager and claims department personnel, then some more to cover the company's building costs and upkeep, then some more for the VAT ...

What's left MAY find its way back to you some day, if you are clever enough to find a way of claiming that avoids the exclusion clauses.
Warranties ar they worth having ? - Dunc
Warranties do work as long as you dont expect them to rebuild your car- I work at Warranty Direct and know first hand just how many claims are paid. Key to the way we work is that when we say direct we mean it - So the people you buy the warranty from are the same people who will handle the claim. With a dealer warranty the warranty companies customer is the dealer not the motorist. No warranty will cover everything on a car but look at in percentage terms if you can protect 90% of a car that has done 95k then you are doing well, on a three year old car with 30k then you should be able to protect 95%. Warranty Direct offers a monthly cover which means you can pay by DD and stop it at any point - give it a go - if you buy online you get one months free cover. Duncan
Warranties ar they worth having ? - Dizzy {P}
Some good (free) advertising there, Duncan. But let me give you my experience with one of the major warrantee companies.

I bought my BMW 5-Series from a non-franchise dealer and he 'gave' me a warrantee (i.e. it was not charged as an extra, though of course I paid for it indirectly). A short while later the water pump failed due to a broken impeller. By immediately stopping, I saved any further damage.

I received the go-ahead from the warrantee company so a garage completely drained the cooling system and flushed it to wash out the bits of the broken impeller. They then fitted a new BMW water pump and the specified quantity of BMW antifreeze. So I claimed for the pump, the antifreeze and the garage's labour charge. Simple, eh? Well, no actually.

The warrantee company said they would only pay for a pattern pump, not a BMW item. They would also only pay for a top-up of the cheapest antifreeze, not the full amount, and would pay only for the cheapest make, not BMW's own brand. Also, they would pay no more than £25 per hour whereas BMW's labour rates were around twice that.

I got my money eventually, but only after many phone calls to the warrantee company's area manager from the garage to explain the work they had done and to press hard for payment. Also, I complained very strongly to the car-supplying dealer and he eventually made it clear to the warrantee company that if they didn't pay up in full he would place no further business with them.

So warrantees are worth having, and they protect at least 90% of the car? I'm sorry, but that's absolute nonsense and I hope no-one is misled by it.
Warranties ar they worth having ? - The Watcher
Just to clarify for those that don't know, when a UK dealer offered a car with 1 years manufacturers warranty plus a further 2 years, more often than not, the second and third year warranty was supplied \ covered by Car Care Warranties ie the same people who now offer warranties to the general public.

So in effect, your after market warranties ARE provided by the same people who gave you a warranty on previous cars only you didn't know it.
Warranties ar they worth having ? - volvoman
Sorry to hear about your experience but I don't suppose it's uncommon. Can we name the offending companies in this forum a) for our own guidance & benefit and b) as a means by which we might exert some small pressure on the industry to improve its standards ?.
Warranties ar they worth having ? - Dizzy {P}
Unfortunately it can be a bit dodgy naming an offending company without concrete written proof, which I don't have. However, the garage that carried out the work said that there is little to choose between any of the warrantee companies.
Warranties ar they worth having ? - Obsolete
As stated above, the one year warranty on a used car is well worth having. I bought a 5 year old Micra from a dealer, and made two claims, one for a replacement speedo, and the other for a replacement valve on a rear wheel. Nissan parts were used, and Nissan mechanics did the work. Mind you, getting a free courtesy car was impossible. However, if you feel sure you can check out how good a used car is, then buy private, and pocket the difference. Is a warranty worth having on a new car? Well I reckon it protects you from a potential dog.
Warranties ar they worth having ? - Dunc
Until you understand that there is no standard - one dealer can offer you a warranty with a limit of £250 and another a limit of £2,500. Motorists are blinded by the car purchase and will sign anything to get the car on the road as quickly as poosible.

Why dont you sepcify the criteria you expect and see hoe the different warranties compare.

I know that you would not have been disappointed if you has one of our warranties - see for yourself at www.warrantydirect.co.uk
Warranties ar they worth having ? - smokie
Without wishing to encourage further advertising, would an expert care to comment on the level of cover provided by warrantydirect, as I've just had a look and to me, a layman, it seems to provide pretty comprehensive cover, albeit at a price...

It quoted me Gold cover at about £750 for 3 years.
Warranties ar they worth having ? - Dizzy {P}
Smokie,

Was the 'small print' fully published? And did it say something like: "The insured will take all steps to limit the cost of repair"? If so, you can be sure that you would be obliged to use a back-street repairer and pirate parts, rather than bona fide, and there will be all sorts of other excuses for not paying up (wear and tear, etc).

Warranties ar they worth having ? - smokie
Dizzy I didn't find "small print" on the website, I guess that comes with the policy itself (or maybe I just didn't look hard enough).

You seem to have your own choice of repairer, although if you use their own recommended (Unipart or some other) then they settle bills directly. Replacement cars, hotels etc, plus Green Flag roadside assistance.

Max single claim was, I think, £5k. no limit on claims per year.

I know insurance companies are not in the charity business, but this one seems to have pretty full cover. And running a relatively expensive-to-maintain car, and planning on keeping it 3 years, I'm wondering if I might manage to get value from the policy...

OK, I'm gullible too!! LOL
Warranties ar they worth having ? - Dizzy {P}
My warrantee had a limit more than £250 - I think it was four figures - but the claim that the company refused to accept was for under £100 !!

Warrantee companies are not charities - they are out for profit so there is no way they are going to pay out what they take in, not by a long chalk.

I agree with others who say that insurance is sensible only where the risk of loss is substantial, as in buildings and road risks for example.
Warranties ar they worth having ? - Dunc
The problem with warranties is that dealers sell or give with the car a warranty with a limit of £250 pounds with a £50 excess.

By my calcs - £50 per hour on a 5 hour job and you have blown the limit. And then there is the cost of the parts.

You need to read the policy check out the limits - does it have a wear and tear exclusion does it have a comsequential loss exclusion.

Does it cover more than the engine a gearbox.
Aircon
Electrics
ECU
Shocks
Cooling system
etc.........

3 years cover for between £550 - £750 is a bargain !!

The only wat to buy a decent warranty is either from a maim agent ie Network Q (never a small dealer) or Warranty Direct - Fact !

Warranties ar they worth having ? - Cyd
Unfortunately I don't have any experience of extended warranties to draw on and so cannot comment on their worth. That's because in twelve years of home ownership I have never bought an extended warrenty for anything. A rough calculation suggests that had I done so for all my appliances and 3 cars, I would have spent about £2000 on warrenties. In the same period I reckon I have spent around £700 on repair bills that would probably have been covered by warrenty. I have excluded replacement due to fair wear & tear. You can probably guess my attitude to these policies.
Warranties ar they worth having ? - Graham
My latest car came with a free warantee. But I have to get it serviced at a VAT registered garage. So it will cost a lot more to service than if i did most of it myself so I've been wondering if its worth haveing at all.

BTW Its interesting that the sales person (car, phone w.h.y) sell the item on it's reliability and longevity with one breath then try for warantee/extended garantee etc with the next. I usualy ask them to make up their mind about the quality of the goods!
Warranties ar they worth having ? - Toad, of Toad Hall.
You can probably guess my attitude to
these policies.


And all other insurance.

It amazes me when brokers baulk when I ask for TPO insurance.

But what about the risk of incuring damage in a crash they say.

I find this painfully frustrating.

If *they* are so happy to to take the risk on board (and they don't know me from adam) why shouldn't I accept the risk?

Morons, the lot of 'em.

The exception to this is breakdown cover. I pay the premium, I lend my card to all and sundry to ensure I get a few uses, the premium stays the same. Ditto boat insurance. I used to break *something* most seasons. They always payed out and my premium never changed.



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Parp, Parp!
Note: All Toad posts come with an implied smiley.
Warranties ar they worth having ? - Alf
I must say that it really depends on what car you drive whether these warranties are worth it.

If you drive a Vectra espec a 2.0 Di as I did and the diesel pump goes - which they do! You are looking at £1,500 minimum. If you drive a Toyota, forget it you lucky lad. If you drive anything over say 6 or 7 years old, the scrappy is your church.

All these new generation Hdi type diesels, if anything goes wrong with them.....well, even the dealerships are clueless 'cos they can't afford the time and money to send their technicians on courses. You end up with the clumsy youth on tuppence a day or whatever, mucking up your motor and a can't FIND anything wrong with it sir result! Oh and heres the bill.

Basically its a case of Kerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrching! for the dealers. So a three year comprehensive warranty based on the above for £750 is a billy bargain as far as I'm concerned. Thats less than a fiver a week, gotta be happy.

Regards

Alf
Warranties ar they worth having ? - Cheeky
Can't remember how much I paid for my extended warranty with Car Care Plan. However, when I called upon their services to replace a bad water pump (this included timing belt change etc) and a faulty dashboard module, they paid up without any fuss. Altogether, they saved me £950 in the first nine months of ownership. The car is an Audi A6 1998 model, so would have been costly to repair myself.
Perhaps I am in the minority here, but I found these guys excellent.
Warranties ar they worth having ? - DavidHM
It depends entirely on the car and the warranty.

My father's Rover was very unreliable when bought at 4 years and 18k - the warranty was included in the price but would have been worth £800 for the year it ran, if we'd known at the time. Of course, the car caried on in that vein and we'd have been better off cutting our losses.

A warranty on a small, easy to repair, newer car will obviously be worth a lot less than one on a 10 year old V6, although you might get into the situation where a warranty would cost more than the car itself. Basically, you pays your money and you takes your choice.