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Betcha there is one kicking around with all the Cossie kit and the 1.3 lump though. Bless.
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In about 1997 when rover stopped making the 100, they brought out a rover 211, a rover 200 with a 1.1 8valve engine as a 'replacement'.
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Any Jags with less than 12 cylinders.
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Cough........Sko.....Cough....das.....
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Edit - old ones that is........
Edited by Humph Backbridge on 18/09/2008 at 19:11
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Cough........Sko.....Cough....das..... ;-0 Edit - old ones that is........
Oi! SWMBO's D plate Estelle 120 LSE was way better equipped than the rotbox B plate metro 1.0L it replaced, 5 speed box for starters ;-)
I recall Vauxhall sold some Viva HCs and Firenzas in the mid 70s with a seriously poverty spec, 'orrible 1256 engine and all; it was the 'ES' I think. A mate managed to buy a 'special' edition Astra Mk2 in '86 with no clock, which was pretty unusual by then.
In terms of poverty engines another mate had a 2 door X plate cavalier mk2 in snot green, 1300cc, hardly nippy but would regularly do a ton with 5 of us in it, impressive if a little scary.
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1985 1.05 litre Polo C - 40 BHP (I think) very steady progress as I remember ...
But luxury compared with the Fiesta Popular Plus I had before it. This was one up from the base Popular, but still with a bare metal handbrake lever. I was using that in 1984 when the surf froze on the beach in Swansea bay.
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Someone mentioned 1.3 ohv Cortinas.
I beg to differ, brilliant heating/ventilation, carpets, radio, think one of ours even had a clock.
Top speed 85mph, which it would do easily, and cruise all day at 70mph - not bad for the late 1960s.
Reliable, too. Has to be one of the first cars which enabled someone of average means to confidently take on a 100/200 mile journey.
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Economy cars these days can do 60mpg plus in the real world. Twenty or so years ago they could do better than 50mpg. I can vouch personally for the Peugeot 205 diesel because I had one (1985 or early 86), a very good car indeed although let down by flimsiness and in that example a faulty rear brake from new. The other example that springs to mind is the Renault 5 GTL, which although petrol was cunning and French, and like the Peugeot had the winning combination of a big engine for its size and high gearing.
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A diesel model of the Skoda Octavia was available with a non turbo 68 bhp engine.....quite a popular taxi up here in the north east, despite a 0-60 of just under 20 secs!
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We had a 1.6 naturally aspirated diesel mk2 Golf a few years back, which made a whopping 54 bhp. I have no idea of the acceleration figures, but to say it was pedestrian would be an understatement. It would do about 90 mph flat out, but had had enough 10 mph before that.
It was staggeringly economical though. Even thrashed mercilessly and in stop/start local running, it would do 55 mpg, with 74 mpg being the best we achieved on a run. We had this car through the fuel protests, and having just filled it up when the blockades started, had no worries at all as the queues formed at the petrol stations.
We used to fill the thing up once a month!
A few years later we had a Polo 1.9D which was rubbish in comparison, despite being barely any quicker.
Cheers
DP
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We had a 1.6 naturally aspirated diesel mk2 Golf a few years back which made a whopping 54 bhp.
A friend of mine had a Mk1 Golf diesel; I think it was the same 1.6 NA engine. It had alloys on it and looked alright, almost resembled a GTi, but was dog slow..
ISTR him complaining about heavy unassisted steering; and there was epic vibration of the dashboard at low revs.
Back in the early 90s it was a source of amusement to the rest of us in our late teens, when we associated diesel with black cabs, buses and nothing else.
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I had a 1986 Polo C. It had all of 45 bhp, though felt slower than the Panda 1000Fire that preceded it. I used to change up at the little dots on the speedo (2 dots, change up to 3rd, 3 change to 4th) to make reasonable progress for quite a heavy little car.
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Any 1.1 Citroen AX - used fuel so slowly you became convinced the fuel gauge was faulty.
I had a 957cc Fiesta too - A-reg Popular Plus, last of the Mk 1's. The windscreen washers were operated by a foot pump - it must have cost Ford more to de-spec to a foot pump than an electric one would cost. It did have a radio, rear wiper, heated rear window and a radio.
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they did a mk2 polo with stop/start equipment, it stoped the engine somehow at traffic lights etc and restarted when you put it in gear
also had a dash light for gear changes and a 4 plus E gearbox
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Oh the ultimate - the Honda Civic IMA we have in work, a gutless hybrid, with that nonsense auto-stop thing (as mentioned by Stevo) cheap to tax but wouldn't take the skin off a rice pudding.
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A diesel model of the Skoda Octavia was available with a non turbo 68 bhp engine.....quite a popular taxi up here in the north east, despite a 0-60 of just under 20 secs!
19.6 seconds to be exact, top speed of +-98mph too. I did 267k miles in mine though, averaged 44mpg around town and 52mpg on a run, not bad for a proper 5-seat estate car!
Edited by Webmaster on 21/09/2008 at 13:32
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Probably related to the Octavia post above - the SDI diesel engine seen in Golfs. No turbo so a 0-60 in about 19 secs I think.
With the advent of VW using turbo/superchargers in their range, how about the 1.4l engine in the new Skoda Superb (big beast of a car, small cc engine but hyped up with a turbo charger).
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Fiat Regata 70 ES (Energy Saving), 1983.
It had some modifications to the aerodynamics, e.g wind deflectors around the windows and a small boot spoiler, it was a 1300 cc with 65 bhp, and it had an engine shut-off system when idling.
Fiat, as usual, years ahead of the competiton.
Cue the Fiat knockers!
I had a standard Regata 70 (1.3) in about 1989/90, teriffic car with plenty of oomph for the engine size, very roomy and very cheap to run (I was a student then). Not to mention reliable - even when the cambelt bust through my neglect to change it, it was fixed for very little money as it hadn't caused any lasting damage. I actually miss that car still - I did two runs to Gibraltar and back in it from Nottingham. Happy days.
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My neighbour at the end of the seventies had a Capri 1.3. All the show but no go was how she would describe it.
I had a Morris Ital Estate 1.3 which had the 1275 A series engine and a four speed box. It could carry a lot of stuff just not very quickly or especially economically. If you needed to work on it you could almost stand in the engine bay with it as there was so much room around the engine.
It was fun to drive on only one occasion and that was when it snowed.
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Apparently Volvo is preparing special versions (to be called DRIVe - really!) of the C30, S40 and V50. They'll have the 1.6D engine but with higher gearing and aerodynamic modifications to reduce fuel consumption.
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Rover SD1 2000.
The 2L version had the 2L engine from the Ital in it, horrifically slow and fantastically de-specced as well, no alloys, hardly any electrical toys etc. etc.
My dad had one as a company car in the late 80s and it was pov-striken.
I bet theres almost no 2L ones left now, they would have all been mercilessly thrashed into the ground to get anywhere.
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I'd have thought that the economy version of the SD1 was the 2.3D? I think that we have perhaps to differentiate between the "economy" versions for mpg and the "economy" versions for price (such as said 1.3 crapy and the Pop versions of the escort/fiesta).
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Ford did a version of the Mk1 Ford Escort for some markets which had a 950cc 34bhp engine.
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Land Rover offered the Discovery for a while with the 2.0l 16V petrol engine from the Rover 800.
Aparently it offered the performance of the diesel with the economy of the V8 so was quickly dropped.
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I had a Polo Formel E as my first car. It had a guage to indicate MPG, but I think that it was much use. Also had a nice little light to tell you when it was best to change gear. Best feature was the high ratio gearbox - could do over 80 in third
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I'd have thought that the economy version of the SD1 was the 2.3D?
Do you mean the 2400SD (diesel)? The 2300 was petrol.
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Sorry, slip of the finger...
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The gingerous one! yep that was a bargin special. I had a SDI 2000 & it was so basic. I have to say that it appeared to perform better than the 2.3 which was a slug. The 2.4 with the Italian VM engine was an odd ball. the 2.6 was niether one thing or the other.The 3.5 vitesse was the right power plant for the car
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I was actually going to mention the 2.4 TD as well, but then amended my post.
But, yes, feel free to include it!
cheers
Stu
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