Now THAT'S service! - PhilW
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Oops, didn't know there was a tracker on it, guv.
Now THAT'S service! - Pugugly
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Now THAT'S service! - Tron
That is just plain disgusting.

You entrust a main dealer with your 'pride and joy' and a member of staff or another abuses it in such a way?

I don't have a tracker on my vehicle but I always record the exact mileageand set all trips to zero when my vehicle goes in to a garage. I then tell them I know excatly the mileage too.

Same with work done - I tell them there is a box in the boot - if the old part ain't in there - well I certainly ain't paying (you) for it.

UV marker on parts you know are coming off (to stop them sticking one laying around in) verifies if they are from my vehicle too.

Get the impression I don't trust garages yet? You only get the chance to rip me off once and that was done a long time ago. I don't trust garages further than I could throw my car.

The main Vauxhall dealership I use know my 'eccentric ways' very well now and we have a sound understanding just how we both stand.



Now THAT'S service! - Andrew-T
I can see where you are coming from, Tron. But I would feel more comfortable handing my car in for service in an atmosphere of trust rather than suspicion. And there seems no point in zeroing the tripmeter; they can do that too (tho there must be a good chance they won't notice).

When I bought my first 306 and took it in for a dealer service (still under warranty, only 20K miles) I was told it needed two front suspension arms @ £75 each. They showed me the old ones (which could have come from any car) and I suspected it might be a current 'special offer' to use up surplus spares. None of my 306s have needed any since. I suppose the early versions MAY have been prone to wear, but ...
Now THAT'S service! - ifithelps
During my short time 'in service' we would routinely take a customer's car home for lunch - few miles each way.

'Naughtiest' thing I ever did was take a family whose car had broken down to the local railway station in a customer's Triumph 2.5 PI - there wasn't much time and it was the quickest big car to hand.

I'm sure we put in a couple of gallons, and the customer was a farmer - not a body of men known to be too bothered about looking after their vehicles.

Family caught their train and were well-impressed with the PI - good ones, which this was, went like a rocket.

Now THAT'S service! - quizman
>>>the customer was a farmer - not a body of men known to be too bothered about
>>>looking after their vehicles.

Now now some farmers, including me, look after their vehicles very well. What an insult!
Now THAT'S service! - ifithelps
Now now some farmers including me look after their vehicles very well. What an insult! >>


Quizman,

You're right, of course, this farmer looked after his car, which is why he spent money on it at the garage and why it went so well.

What I should have said was the farmers we dealt with viewed the car as a tool, something to be used, not kept in cotton wool.

I don't suppose he could have cared less his car was borrowed to take someone to the station, especially as it was returned with more fuel than when he left it.

Hope you got the harvest in before all the recent rain.
Now THAT'S service! - JohnM{P}
Leaving a RS4 for 11 days days for a routine service is rather inviting temptation - it will be in the way for 10.5 days, after all - but that does not excuse the alleged behaviour in the slightest.

This is in contrast to when I had my new 2001 Laguna Estate - I had to beg the dealer to keep and use it to see for themselves that the clutch was regularly (but intermittantly) slipping. Only when they eventually found 'a clear liquid' on the undertray did they give the car to the 'chief technician' to drive home in...
(The next day service reception gravely told me the clutch was slipping ie exactly what I'd been telling them, - and then that they needed 2 weeks to get the replacement slave cylinder/clutch/etc and to fit them!)

It is also in contast to a neighbour, who went sailing through a set of traffic lights the first time he braked after collecting the car from a service. This had included a 'brake fluid change' - well, a just brake fluid drain, to be precise. He went back, insisted on seeing the service sheet, which had the 'Road Test' box boldly ticked....
Now THAT'S service! - Victorbox
When the Lotus Carlton was current a certain Bristol Vauxhall dealer's staff (there are three so no naming etc) could be seen taking fast extended test drives around the streets of the city and no doubt beyond!
Now THAT'S service! - Pugugly
This is the original post by the RS4 owner - it descended in to nonsense early on and was removed - sadly




thought it pertinent to post the following to avoid any other people suffering the same issues when I had my Audi serviced at an independent Audi dealer recently, after having several serious issues.


As a global organisation with ?vorsprug durch technik? I thought these issues would be resolved quickly with an email to the dealer Service Manager, especially as Id been emailed by him requesting feedback on the service.
After explaining the issues to him, and advising I could confirm the speeding, (including driving without being warmed up sufficiently), his response was ?I dont know what your problem is?
Further escalation with the dealer proved fruitless and I called Audi UK. 72 hours later, I was still trying to report the issue to Audi UK ? who then told me they couldnt do anything because its an independent Audi dealer. That means Audi UK authorised and approved them to sell, maintain and repair vehicles, but Audi UK dont own the garage.
Further escalation to Jeremy Hicks (Audi UK MD) showed signs of promise, with comments like ?I assure you that we will do our utmost to restore your faith in us?
A week on, and Im advised by Audi that the dealership have complied with Audi UK requirements for servicing my vehicle, and theres nothing more Audi UK can do.
The annoying isues is that the dealer is authorised to do the work, and is linked from the Audi UK website - yet theres no way of knowing the dealer is an independent when you walk through their door.
I'll leave you to decide if you think the measures are to Audi UK standards, and if you'd like your car to be treated in this manner when left with the manufacturers agent. I would, however, recommend that you check your dealer is an Audi UK garage (and not an independent) so you get the relevant support should you suffer similar issues.

I have been asked not to name and shame the dealer on this site, although the story has local and national press interest and the police have been contacted regarding the issues. Happy to email further details external to the forum.
Now THAT'S service! - FotheringtonThomas
From another publication:

"An angry motorist is claiming his high-performance Audi was driven more than a dozen times over the speed limit during the time he left it at a specialisd dealership for a service."

Lawks, a mussy. That's *fast*, for any speed limit.!
Now THAT'S service! - Manatee
I would think that most dealerships are "independent" as in not owned by the manufacturer or UK distributor. Does VAG UK even own any dealerships?

Whatever the rights and wrongs, it's clearly rubbish for a manufacturer/distributor operating a franchised network to say they can't do anything, assuming they want to.

Apologies if this constitutes descending into nonsense again.

Now THAT'S service! - tintin01
Disgraceful behavior from the garage and an inexcusable response from Audi UK.
Now THAT'S service! - movilogo
I remember few weeks back a new back roomer posted about Audi when his car was damaged by Audi dealer during some repair work.

That post was deleted as it did not comply with Naming & Shaming policy of this site.

However, now it is increasingly apparent that dealers to misuse customers' cars. (interesting to read the comments on Daily Mail site).

It is fact that manufacturers don't have direct control over dealers. However, they do have power to cancel the franchise.

Now THAT'S service! - Manatee
It is fact that manufacturers don't have direct control over dealers. However they do have
power to cancel the franchise.


Quite. That was my point, when the dealership has invested 7 figure sums to comply with the distributor's requirements for a glass palace and a workshop full of proprietary equipment, and they have £1m or more of stock on consignment funded by the manufacturer/distributor, they are not in a position to do anything except what they are told.
Now THAT'S service! - Pugugly
The post wasn't deleted because of naming and shaming - it was removed because of arguments about naming and shaming detracting from the OP's experience - now its out in public along with the victim's name.
Now THAT'S service! - jbif
The post wasn't deleted because of naming and shaming - it was removed because of arguments about naming and shaming detracting from the OP's experience - now its out in public along with the victim's name.


I think Movilogo is referring to the other case - that of the chipped Audi, which eventually went to court and the owner was awarded significant damages.

Now THAT'S service! - Pugugly
Sorry - withdraw crazy mod posting !
Now THAT'S service! - Westpig
crazy mod

does that involve a Vespa?
Now THAT'S service! - Pugugly
No a bottle of Lambretta !
Now THAT'S service! - henry k
PU. Two strokes and you're out. :-)
Now THAT'S service! - Pugugly
Meanwhile back on topic --- ! :-)