Cheddar,
Isn't it low-mounted air intakes?
Few cars have an air cleaner box and intake horn atop the engine these days.
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Then you have those that under estimate the power of a mass of water and try to cross small streams at fjords.
The air intake is above the radiator and the cat is part ofthe down pipe on my Astra 1.6 -even still, I would not attempt to pass through a body of water deeper than the 15" wheels on the car due to the bow wave I wil create.
Edited by Tron on 06/09/2008 at 11:18
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try to cross small streams at fjords.((!!!))
Then there's the added hazard of clouting that enormous Norwegian cruise ship or scraping the bottom of the car on a Yankee nuclear submarine.
Yours (in fun) from the Finland Station.
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Tron, you imply you would drive through water 15" deep. That's above the door seals, your cam belt is drowning, the aux belt is spraying water everywhere in the engine and it's petrol so your sparks just died. Regards Peter
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Not to mention the fact that a manhole cover may of lifted or even washed away just ready for a wheel to drop into.
Years ago I saw a cortina stop dead when it sunk down a washed away drain cover & in deep water too. Good for a laugh though!!!
I Doc
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>>Isn't it low-mounted air intakes?>>
Yep, cooler air from lower and higher pressure on the move - both a benefit though an issue with standing water clearly.
try to cross small streams at fjords.((!!!))
Then there's the added hazard of clouting that enormous Norwegian cruise ship or scraping the bottom of the car on a Yankee nuclear submarine.
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Hehe !
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Once had the misfortune / misjudgement / stupidity to drive through very deep floodwater in a Volvo 850. The water was well above the top of the wheels, in fact nearly up to the top of the front wings for about 100 yards. Got away with it but goodness knows how. Just luck I suppose.
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>> try to cross small streams at fjords.((!!!)) Hehe !
You missed the pun....
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I had similar experience yesterday. It started with a couple of inches, and got steadily worse. Fortunately chap behind stayed well back and I was able to reverse out of trouble - I hope - certainly no sign/sound of damage on the rest of the journey except a misplaced front number plate, from which I deduce the water got to that height.
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Weather like this I think I shouldn't have sold the Landie - that's been through some water in its time....
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Me too - I used to have an ex military SWB 1/4t one. Really miss that - especially when it comes to taking the car across fields, up and down farmers tracks and river banks when I go fishing!
Had to sell it when I moved home - gutted.
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I get the impression you could have water over the bonnet of a diesel Land Rover, provided it is fitted with a snorkel. (Good word, snorkel.)
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Mrs P bought me a snorkel for mine - removed it prior to sale and e-bayed it !
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"very deep floodwater in a Volvo 850. The water was well above the top of the wheels, in fact nearly up to the top of the front wings for about 100 yards. "
Don't know whether this applies to Volvos, but we had a particular place near us that regularly flooded, and we had a BX at the time. The main problem with driving through the flood was not water injestion or bow waves etc., but the fact that if the flood came much above the sills, the car started to "float" and since the flood was the river flooding and had a fair current you tended to drift off the road - where it was much deeper!
Surely in most cars, if the water was deep enough to be over the wheels they would "float" - unless the interior of car was also full of water????
(Just asking - not driven through many floods other than the one mentioned! - where, by the way, local kids made a fortune pushing out stranded cars!)
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I get the impression you could have water over the bonnet of a diesel Land Rover
Provided that you remembered to fit the blanking plugs to the clutch housing and the cam belt cover....
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Drove through Roses (northeast Spain) dring a torrential downpour in a Transit based motorhome. The surface water was rushing down the side streets towards the sea and we were driving on a road parallel to the sea and thus having to cross these 'rivers'.
In front of us was a Fiat Panda (old type) and at one crossroads it was literally swept away by the force of the water and ended up jammed against some street signs nearer the sea.
We laughed (cruel) until we got back to our campsite and found that the water had ripped off our front numberplate.
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I was once 'waved through' some flood water by the bill (you'll be alright) in a MK3 Cortina. It came up through the gear stick gaiter. Propshaft UJ failed about fifty miles later.
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Is it still raining back in England? It was chucking it down when I left in June.
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Is it still raining back in England? It was chucking it down when I left in June.
Yes, it is.
It did stop for a day or two, but I can't remember which ones as it was a while ago.
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First Summer I can remember when the front of my car has remained reasonably bug free. Usually looked like insect corpse stubble by most Fridays.
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They all drowned in July.
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Would have thought something like a Subaru Impreza (for example) would be fairly sure footed in all this wet weather. Could almost help to justify such a purchase to someone who was ..........hesitating.
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I wonder if there is someone who may have been pondering this today....?
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That would indeed be perfectly reasonable. Particularly as I am given to understand that they can be bought at very good prices these days. It would seem to me that if an individual had a hankering for such a thing and with the imminent onset of even less clement weather likely in the Winter months ahead.............
Might to some, seem eminently sensible in fact.......
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Might to some seem eminently sensible in fact.......
Should this reasonable and forward thinking of someone's just happen to result in a irresistable bargain being snapped. I know of a chap in North Wales who knows as much about these things as possible (builds his own rally cars and compete's them) , and has rebuilt my sons RA engine and lengthened the 5th gear ratio at a very reasonable wedge, and the result is....a car that his dad has no wish to ride in again, he hasn't the courage or the stomach, it needs Nasa training to withstand the G's..;)
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Really GB ? North Wales you say ? Now, if a buyer of such a car happened to be passing that way from time to time anyway, that would seem to be a fortunate coincidence. Especially if one had ....oh, I don't know.......recently sold an expensive car for example. Perhaps someone who ever so slightly regretted that. What an obvious solution wouldn't you say ?
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Gizza a go GB! I'd love to be sat in that - either as the 'pilot' or navigator!
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Tron.
If i never go in that car again, it'll do me fine, suspension may have been fitted at some time but i think has since have been welded in place. Never been in a car that can take a corner and leave it at such mind boggling acceleration, it defies logic.
I'd love a Subaru TBH, but if i do take the plunge it will be a legacy 3.0R, the imprezza RA is too much for me, even the lad finds it too hard sometimes.
Humph,
Gosh what a coincidence, do you mean to say this 'friend' who has pondered the good sense of getting such a vehicle to make his commutes safer in the coming winter actually passes through the very area this scoob expert resides in.
That is most fortunate, maybe this is a sign, and maybe this chap could try thinking quite how he is going to get his swmbo to see the wisdom also..;) she may not be so quick as we are to see the many advantages such a vehicle would be.
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Drove through a flood in my MINI cabrio today that was deeper than I thought. Water started dripping onto my accelerator foot from under the dash. Only a few drops mind, but enough for me become somewhat worried. All seems fine though , luckily, but next time I'll turn round and find another route.
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Yes, I'm sure you have hit the nail on the head there GB. It is quite worrying though, all this rain, not just proper flooding but standing water making for unexpectedly dangerous conditions.
Your friend, like mine, ( wouldn't it be funny if it were the same person ? ) may indeed feel it appropriate to point out to his close relatives the benefits of such a sensible choice at such a reasonable price. I mean, what price safety ?
Edited by Humph Backbridge on 06/09/2008 at 23:34
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Curses, curses
And curses thrice - the brainless clowns on the main road near my house as I footed it to the post box with mad canine towing me. Slow down to avoid splashing hapless pedestrians - I should flippin' coco.
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Bet the dog enjoyed the shower, though.
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Don't want to get those canvas shoes wet PU ! Since all the 'elf 'n safety hoo ha the dyes don't stick to fabrics. Stick like fun to human skin though !
Not that I would know anything about shoes........
Edited by Humph Backbridge on 06/09/2008 at 23:44
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Canvas shoes now post-canine history. Proper waterproof Salomon tie ups - veterans of four walking seasons. Like Subarus for feet.
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Subarus for feet.
Karma PU, Karma.
Edit - or is it serendipity...............?
Edited by Humph Backbridge on 07/09/2008 at 00:14
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"Proper waterproof Salomon tie ups - veterans of four walking seasons. Like Subarus for feet."
Don't forget to reward them - nice bone for the dog, dose of nikwax for the shoes,
Phil
No connection with nikwax except it does wonders for waterproofing shoes - just off to reward mine after the last few day's rain.
Can't think of a motoring connection!!
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The Altea has a pair of hunter wellies tucked in the spare wheel well
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>>Proper waterproof Salomon tie ups - veterans of four walking seasons. Like Subarus for feet.>>
The Altea has a pair of hunter wellies tucked in the spare wheel well
Nice idea though how do you fit those then RF, can see that a pair of size nines is much substitute for a 205/55.
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Assuming it's an Altea - won't there just be a can of goo where the spare should be?
Edited by ifithelps on 07/09/2008 at 12:48
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