Hi P.O.P.
I own a 2006 D5 SE V70 (185) Manual. 31000 miles on the clock, purchased 2 months ago.
I'm virtually having the same unacceptable problems as you. There is a resonance / vibration during 1.5 to 1.8 rev range, which is VERY evident on the steering wheel. It happens in any gear, especially bad when accerating up hill when the engine is under torque. Strange, as soon as I get past 1800 revs, the engine is as smooth as you would expect. The same can be said when cruising in 5th 6th gear, and acclerating through this rev range.
The car has been in several times to my local Volvo dealer, who have tried several things, including, changing the grey plastic engine cover, which was faulty and vibrating, this made things a bit better. They have also Inspected all the top & lower engine mounts and the mountings on the top engine stabilization bar. I have read, if at fault, the Dual mass flywheel could cause this problem. They agree, that there is unacceptable vibration evident but can't pin it down or find a cure.
Have tried several other V70's with no problems. Pity I did not return the car under thier 30 day replacement period. It may be time to take this matter up with Volvo UK, whilst it is still under Warranty.
How did you get on with the problem, was it cured.
Edited by Dynamic Dave on 30/01/2009 at 18:43
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This has been raised on the Volvo Owners Club (could be you posting ?)
No one has been able to pin point the problem to you need to get x done but there has been some mention of the offside driveshaft being replaced.
See: www.volvoforums.org.uk/showthread.php?t=54959
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Thanks for the link to the Volvo Owners Club. The threads you mention are not mine, but I have postings under Engine Vibration.
The car has been back to the main dealer several times now but, the problem is still there.
I have in fact been in touch with Volvo UK who are taking the problem on. Their so called top Technician guy......! has looked at the car when it was last booked in, who has advised the dealer to look at several areas.....I think the problem is the Dual Mass Flywheel which may be out of balance.
They keep trying to fob me off by saying that all Deisels vibrate, which of course is true but, every other V70 185 2005/2006 I've driven have been very smooth, through the 1500 to 1800 rev range. I wish I had kept my previous V70 1999 2.5D!
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Hello 'bob 1949' No it hasnt been cured. At least your dealer has the decency to admit there is a fault, the one here, Lloyds Volvo, Carlisle has the berefaced temerity to refute my complaint. I was beginning to doubt my conclusion that Volvo had produced and offloaded a whole batch of crappy V70(185's) ie they were fine before and after this version (which was only produced for a short time) even my 125,000 miles 850tdi is much more pleasant to drive.
It seems, reading your response that yours is not as bad as this one (yet?)- this one drones and booms continually and the resonation it sets up in the cabin 'does yer head in' as they say enough to give one a headache.
Volvo will not even send an engineer to meet me and ride in the car. I thus icommenced litigation which was evolving into an absurdely and unneccessary expensive farce causing futher unbearable stress, such that I had to stop. I am without doubt that Volvo are/were aware that this version of the V70 is crappy but refuse to acknowledge the fact - there is a lot of money at stake here! Is that why they peddled quiet smooth version at their Volvo UK Freedon Test Drive days - If I'd been to test drive one at at the dealers I would not have got as far as leaving the dealers premises with it
Sorry for only been able to impart bad news but if you or anyone out there is as nauseated with their 2006-2007 version Volvo V70D5(185) (not the latest model) as I am (its 21/2 years old now and only done 15,000mls because it is so nauseating to drive) and wants to take action I am more than happy to assist in any way I can.
P.O.P
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Hello POP
Thanks for the reply, interesting to read. Two weeks ago when the Volvo Technician/engineer came down to the Volvo Dealership they went out in the car and reported they could not feel any vibrating. As soon as I took the car over and acclerated up hill, the vibrating was there. This makes me cross, as I am sure they are trying to fob me off. I'm sure not all V70 185's have this fault as I drove about 4 differant models prior to purchasing this one. All of which were very smooth. Problem is I purchased this car in Stockton and I live in the Chilterns, so its not easy to dump it on their door to sort it out. At least the warranty covers all Franchised Volvo Dealers.
Have you tried involing Volvo UK in Marlow Bucks. They were helpfull with me to try and resolve the matter. (Or trying to fob me off) who knows.
The car is due to go in again for further tests. When I get over the Hospital treatment I am going through at the moment, I will book it in again, so will keep you posted.
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Not sure how much this helps, but I can also vouch for the fact that a D5 shouldn't have any serious vibration at all.
At worst you might experience a little vibration at idle, but certainly not beyond 1000rpm.
The S80 D5 auto I drove for a few weeks was smoothness in itself. Neither does the old 163 D5 suffer the vibrations you've described.
I sympathise, I'm having similar denial issues with Vauxhall at the minute on a different issue...
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Thanks for the mail.
It's very true what you say, Not all D5's have this problem but, there are quite a few examples on the Volvo Owners Club Forum.
I've driven quite a few Volvos, including 1999 V70D, 2.5 & 4 other D5's 2005 & 2006, none of which had vibration in the 1500 to 1800 rev range. So I won't let Volvo fob me off on this one.
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Hello again 'bob'.
With reference particularily to your last sentence - As I said in a previous message(28 Feb), I started litigation which did involve Volvo UK as well as the supplier/retailer. It was their (Volvo's) response (they are not short of funds, unlike myself, to orchestrate a legal smoke screen) coupled with the Judicary/legal system (the judge decided to allocate it to the 'Multitrack!) and the subsequent 'mugging' by the mercenaries, oops sorry, solicitors, involved that scuppered me and my ability to continue with the claim -thus you have a rough road ahead.
The emphasis in the posts seems to be on the vibration rather than the resultant reverberation and noise in the cabin that emanates from/is caused by it/(I Assume) that becomes almost debilitating. That is, as you have said, is most promonent when the engine is 'under load'
I have had a couple of Consulting Auto Engineers ride in this abysmal car and their assessment is damning. ie - the truth matters not to Volvo, - whoever the employees (probably highly paid) that decided on the stance they have taken on this deserve a long and agonising demise (at least 21/2 yrs that I have suffered from it).
If you are going to take the matter further, as said if you need a witness/another example, just let me know.
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Hi POP
I may have a result as far as the vibration is conerned. The Volvo Garage did a compression test to find no 2 cylinder is approx 4 bar down compaired to the other four.
They think that the Con rod is bent/damaged, which has been caused by flood damage, by the previos owner! They told me a new engine is required.
Big problem is, this is not covered by the warranty, so it looks like I have some negotiations to look forward to.
I have covered myself, as I informed the Dealer about the problem one week after purchasing the car last November. So the onus is on them to sort it out.
mega snipquote - please take notice of the message that pops up on the screen when you press the "quote message" button - the one that asks you to NOT to quote everything to which you're replying to!}
Edited by Dynamic Dave on 15/04/2009 at 01:23
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Hello.
I had this problem with my V70 2004 D5. extreme viberation from 1400-1900 RPM. Peak viberation at 1750 RPM. After replacing the top engine mount last year (2008) the viberation was reduced. But gradualy becoming even worse then it was before changing the uper engine mount. I started looking for other possible faults and the lower right mount was the next. The old engine mount was not broken, there were no cracks but the rubber was quite soft. So I ordered a new one fom ipd.com US and repaced the engine mount. After repacing the care bacame as new. Engine at idle, no viberation what so ever and smooth as it sould be at 1000-2000 and abowe. I recomend every one having problems with noisy and viberating D5 engine to change the uper and right engine mount. And also remember to check the gearbox mount. Sorry my bad english but I'm form norway :) Drive safely, drive Volvo.
Vebjørn Knotten
Trondheim Norway
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Hi again P.O.P.
Thanks for the reply. Have been away for a while, hence the late reply.
How did you get on with your Volvo vibration & the supplier?
I eventually sent the D5 back to the Dealer, under their Warranty, with an independant report. They stripped the whole engine down, replaced all the Pistons & Conrods. Number 2 pot was totally choked up, & they confirmed the compression was 3 bar down. Whether or not the bent con rod was due to flood damage or faulty injector was not confirmed. The car was away for a month, I had a courtesy car (09 V70 D5 R design) which was a fantastic car.
When I got the car back....guess what it was still vibrating. Following week, I was totally dismayed to discover the turbo breather pipes were disconnected & the fuel injector body was wet with fuel. Which I complained about to the Dealer & Volvo UK (who I found VERY helpful). The dealer said the car was all to spec & that it was fit for purpose, and it was up to me if I wanted to proceed with litigation. I consutled a Solicitor for advice, who told me I had a case BUT I would not get all my money back, as it had been going on for 5 months, and as I had been driving it around, they could say it was fit for purpose.
I was so fed up with it all I decided to get rid of it and count my losses. I traded it in for another V70 2007 which runs very smooth. I lost about £1,800 in the 2 deals, which was about the same I would have lost if I had taken it to court.
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Hi Bob
I am just going to look at an 06 v70 with 68 on the clock, unconfirmed if it is a d5 but it is 2401cc. Don't suppose you sold it to a dealer in hampshire did you?
Just to confirm it is vibrating between 1,000 and 1,800 going uphill. essentially when using excess torque should replicate the issue.
Tks v much
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2401cc will either be 2.4D or D5. Same engine, different software map.
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Hi gizbourne.
Rest assured the car was not traded in to a Dealer in Hampshire. It is currently for sale at a non Volvo franshised Dealer in North London. My engine vibrated at the same rev range. Like you worst when under torque going uphill, & under excessive accleration. It was also bad in 5th & 6th gear on the motorway when picking up speed, going through that rev range.
STEER WELL CLEAR if the car is vibrating, as it took me a long time to try & sort it out. (which was never solved). Lots of differant things were tried to solve the problem. I'm sure it was caused by a faulty Injector? Or as my local Volvo Dealership stated the Conrod was bent due to flood damage?
If you do purchase one, My advice is to deal with a Franshised Volvo Dealer. Who give you a full one year Volvo guarantee, & 30 day exchange if you are not happy.
The V70 is either a V70 D5 (185 BHP) or V70D (165BHP). Both are exactly the same engines but with a differant chip installed. The D5 185 is a lot more responsive!
I have driven lots of V70's, all have been very smooth except the last one.
Where abouts are you based.
Good Luck
Bob
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