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"Sometimes original???"-they supply most European manufacturers with OE air and oil filters.
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Worked briefly for a motor factor in 1980-81 who sold Mann & Hummel filters. OK, a lot can change in nearly thirty years (hair colour for a start :-), but I remember them being a top quality product. One local specialist 'German' garage would use nothing but M & H filters for BMW, Merc etc.
Bit concerned if places like GSF (or Eurocarparts even) could be selling fake OE products.
Did you ever take this up with them, Screwloose?
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Many moons ago, the company mentioned above and others were investigated by a pre-studio Top Gear? (or something similar with Quentin Wilson) and they found many fake automotive parts for sale, including Vauxhall wishbones which were snapping where the ball joint was riveted on with three rivets. They found the packaging the same, even holograms in some cases. The printers making the packaging didn't even know that it would be used for fake parts.
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Even more frightening is that many planes-even major airlines-are flying with "fake" parts.
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Hope that Airbus I'm flying with tomorrow has pukka wings !
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>>Hope that Airbus I'm flying with tomorrow has pukka wings !
It's the high lift systems, the flaps & slats you really need to watch PU - never mind dubious parts, they had a really dodgy systems engineer working on their design & development.
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Thanks NC - I bequeath my Roomie to you if I don't come back. :-)
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Did you ever take this up with them Screwloose?
No way, got better things to do with my time than listen to parrot-fashion denials; I'm so fed up with fakes, that if any part on a customer's car came from dodgy sources like that, [or fleabay] it now has to be replaced with genuine before I'll even look at it - or they can take it elsewhere. [There is no elsewhere...]
I'm still waiting for an answer to the question: "Why do Bosch [or anyone] cut their own throat by supplying their products so cheaply that they can be re-sold, for a shysters' profit, at half the official agent's rate?"
This is a company that blocks independent access to functions and sections of data on it's multi-thousand pound scan-tools to protect it's own network.
Just done a Tourvan this morning; replaced the non-gen sensors with dealer's and, amazingly, now the light does go out.....
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I regard both GSF and Mann & Hummel to be reputable organisations and have had no problems dealing with either - which I have done over many years. If there were to be any question of a counterfeit component beng suppled by a retailer I would take it up with them. My contract is with them as the seller.
GSF are not fools - they hold a well regarded position in the market place and no doubt widh to hang on to it. They have probably seen more counterfeit goods than most of us here.
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I fully agree. I really cant see GSF selling fake gear. The filter looks to be perfectly made; and believe me when I say that ive really studied it long and hard.
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They're probably grey imports sourced outside of rip-off Britain.
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Actually I said it cost me three quid. Not quite true; I just checked the receipt and it was in fact £3.85p. Bargain or fake? We will probably never know. However, I fully intend to fit it, so fingers crossed.
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If genuine, and I have no reason to doubt it if its from a properly traceable source, then they are a top quality filter.
Better known in commercial vehicle circles; which in my mind supports the quality acclaim.
And although I understand screwloose's concern over "fake" parts I am not so convinced of "oe" parts being better. They often come from the same source and are identical.
The bits to watch out for are the counterfeit, and spurious unknown branded stuff.
In all my years of changing filters the only faulty 1 I have ever had was a "genuine" vauxhall 1!
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