Trying for a personal record without resorting to severe unsustainable driving techniques.
79.3mpg yesterday, cold start, then staying between 50 and 55mpg, over a 60 mile return trip with a semi warm start at the mid point.
That`s better than the 78mpg of a few months back on a return trip of 120 miles to the East coast.
Went to France last week ( drivng for speed and not economy) and covered 800+ miles at just under an indicated 80MPH and obtained 61.6mpg.
The Multijet engine in the Mk2b van is nicely loosened up at 20,000 and is getting better all the time on fuel consumption.
Because of its lighter weight though I suspect the HDI engined Citroen C1 could beat it.
Regards
Edited by oilrag on 21/05/2008 at 10:54
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"79.3mpg yesterday, cold start, then staying between 50 and 55 *Miles per Hour* over a 60 mile return trip with a semi warm start at the mid point."
* note the correction, sorry.
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Clearly this is from the computer. What is the brim to brim telling you?
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Very impressive. What vehicle is this, what MY, and how many miles have you done already? Diesels are looking very tempting at the moment.
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"Because of its lighter weight though I suspect the HDI engined Citroen C1 could beat it."
A diesel Aygo owner managed over 90 mpg doing 50-60 mph for about 80 miles.
Edited by daveyjp on 21/05/2008 at 13:24
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Its an 05 MK2b Punto van, weight approx 1,000KG, done 20,000 miles.
Regarding the C1 Diesel , I suspected it was better. Why are there not more around given a long term and high mileage use projection? It sounds about the best car there is for economy.
There must be people who dont mind the extra purchase cost, but want cheapest possible motoring after that.
Retirement car for example
Edited by oilrag on 21/05/2008 at 14:12
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Oilrag.
When you compare the stats for the 1.0 petrol and 1.4HDi unit in the C1 there is very little between them. 90mpg for the diesel is exceptional. One petrol owner reports nearly 70mpg brim to brim using a scanguage monitor to drive economically and he even managed just shy of 90mpg when really going for it!
I doubt you would ever recover the extra cost of the diesel over the petrol as most C1/107/Aygo are city cars covering low mileages and diesel fuel is now 10% more than petrol.
I've only seen one C1/107/Aygo diesel and that was a hire car in Menorca.
Edited by daveyjp on 21/05/2008 at 15:06
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Brim to brim, maybe that`s another story ;)
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The 1980s Peugeot 205 diesel was supposed to be able to do 70mpg, and my late father once claimed to have done this, almost, in his still quite new example: with the lowest level of trim and the narrowest tyres. I inherited that car, which eventually was stolen, and although I never managed that (or tried to actually) it always did better than 50mpg on the road cruising as fast as possible. That meant about 90 in suitable conditions, as the last 5mph to flat out took a lot more throttle and made a bit of smoke. If it hadn't been stolen I would probably still have it.
Edited by Lud on 21/05/2008 at 15:40
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Clearly this is from the computer. What is the brim to brim telling you?
80 mpg! Pah, it that all? My Vectra can achieve 999.9 mpg when going down hill according to the computer ;o)
Edited by Dynamic Dave on 21/05/2008 at 20:32
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80 mpg! Pah it that all? My Vectra can achieve 999.9 mpg when going down hill according to the computer ;o)
Well, that could be true. When modern engines are in overdrive they use no fuel, gravity drives the engine!
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C1 petrol 1.0ltr did 225 miles at a steady 55 & when refilled to the brim got 73.4MPG & its only covered 1200 miles so far. On my weekly commute its averaging 67+ so not bad for a petrol.
Actually car has exceeded expectations for a 6K vehicle & daughter thinks its great for learning to drive.
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Welcome back Oilrag.
I'm so envious of your fuel figures, and i do like the C1 diesel, but funnily enough there was a low mileage C1 petrol with LPG on the web, would that be the cheapest motoring possible?
Own up time...as an astute Yorkshireman, how many jerries of cheap diesel did you manage to smuggle back in? Must have been tempting or did you calculate in the increased weight of fuel to be carried against the savings on fuel itself -)
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Hi GB. (and all)
Arrived back up North in the van (just under 300 miles from Calais) and tank (49 litre) still more than half full. (Taking it easy that should last another 3 weeks or so.... two trips lolling about in the countryside in the Yorkshire Wolds and coast.)
We motored down to Albert and the Memorial at High Wood...
tinyurl.com/5gco7o
Can`t remember the exact derv price at the one refuelling but around £1 per litre perhaps. Nothing like years ago when it was worth arriving with an empty tank.
Regarding the C1. I still can`t understand why that 1.4 HDI can`t seem to put a significant gap to the petrol on fuel consumption. I thought the California warm temperature test would massage the petrol figures over the derv on test, but not on stop start real life winter running.
Given that I`m always reading there is more energy in derv etc.
I guess that petrol engine must be really something special and as for gas.. are you tempted to go for it on yours. Is it possible?
regards
Edited by oilrag on 22/05/2008 at 14:03
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I wouldn't consider gas for the Aygo - I can't imagine covering the mileage required every year to make it pay. It's a decent car and copes with all roads very well, motorway speeds aren't a problem, but doing 20,000+ per annum in one doesn't appeal!
1.4HDi has probably been strangled to meet emission regs.
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I guess that petrol engine must be really something special and as for gas.. are you tempted to go for it on yours. Is it possible?
We've had the merc about 6 years now, its a E320 coupe, which is as you would assume 3.2 litre 24 valve. Its done 72k now, and yes it is in lovely condition...But, since having the problems with the wiring loom and ecu repaired, i don't have quite that unshakeable faith in the car that i used to.
I don't think with the age of the car and the fragility of this design that i could seriously benefit from gassing the old girl (blimey hope someone doesn't edit and quote that, i'll be in chokey).
I really like the car, and its so unique, and a true pleasure to own and drive, i really don't know what to do.
I almost bought a 3 litre flat six legacy the weekend before the budget, so i'm very pleased i didn't do that, i may still have one, but cheaper next year probably, and that would be worth gassing, and apparently subaru's go well on gas.
You know what its like though, i would feel dreadful selling the merc, especially with the certainty that any subsequent owner would not treat her so well.
(purely out of interest, my indy bought and resold my low mileage diesel 124 saloon, he knows how fussy i am, well he sold it to a very caring chap, who happened to overtake my son in his car transporter,, 'keep it in the family',, who reported to me that it was gleaming and looked well, this in winter, i was very pleased, that was a truly good car)
The C1/aygo/107 petrol engine really is a cracker, amazing low speed torque for such a tiny and frugal lump, but like many i still prefer diesels, or at least old fashioned diesels.
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