I bought a 01 Citroen Saxo 1.1 Desire for my son and it has a stiff clutch. The pedal seems to have two movements before dully depressed.
Although the clutch and gears work perfectly well I wonder if this is the normal for this model as I assumed all clutches were hydraulic and easy to depress. Or is there any adjustment I can make.
If it is the clutch on the way out, any ideas at what price I am looking at.
Many thanks for any response
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More likely cable. Have a look under the bonnet. A new cable should sort it. If not then either a problem with the clutch pedal or the clutch mechanism itself.
Edited by Fullchat on 23/04/2008 at 22:21
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I believe Citroens and Peugeot do have clutch pedals that are slightly stiffer than say a ford etc as they are cable driven. Is this right, by others experience and would a stretched cable cause this effect. Many thanks
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psa clutches are quite heavy, but if it's notchy during use then the cable is likely to need replacing. the engineers had a great idea to route the cables round by the exhaust manifold and as such they dry out over time. a new cable should be about £20 and fitting shouldn't take more than half hour.
chris
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Many thanks for the response, I think I will change the cable and see how it goes from there.
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I would be interested to hear how you get on as the 106D I look after has the same problem.
This car has done 137k miles on the original clutch and had a new cable at 100k miles. I have a feeling that these Valeo clutches get heavy after a lot of use because all of the pivot points in the pressure plate together with the ends of the diaphragm spring fingers end up becoming very worn.
A new cable is cheap to buy (Unipart was the cheapest - manual adjust replaces auto adjust without any problems) but beware there are two types with differing bulkhead fittings. It's very difficult to fit as access to the pedal top is so poor. I removed the clutch pedal to improve access, but to get the pivot bolt out, you need to lower the brake pedal - easily done by opening a bleed screw and pressing down. If you do it carefully, there's no need to bleed the brakes afterwards.
Any comments would be appreciated - watch your back if you're changing the cable; if you're a big person you may suffer...
659.
Edited by Dynamic Dave on 25/04/2008 at 11:06
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The clutch operating lever may partially seize...(we had it sieze and break).. Try light oil(not engine oil -) on the entrance to the gearbox. Not too much as you could (unlikely) contaminate the clutch.
But it is most likely the cable.
Edited by madf on 25/04/2008 at 10:52
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Many thanks for the replies, I will get the cable changed and see what happens.
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Clutch cable failure is quite common on UK Citroen, Peugeot and Renault models. This is because the car was originally designed to be left-hand-drive, and they're converted to RHD for the UK market. Coincidentally LHD models don't break cables anywhere near as often.....
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Well, as it was a nice morning (at least to begin with) I fitted a new cable to the 106D I look after. No problems as such doing this - it's just a grovel and it's also tricky getting the new cable threaded through the hole in the bulkhead under the steering rack. A draw string is a help here.
I can't say the clutch is any lighter but its operation is significantly smoother.
I think old Valeo clutches just end up being heavy. Although this one has done 137k miles it actually operates perfectly well - it's just heavy. If I'm feeling magnanimous, it might get a new clutch in the Summer - the car's hardly worth it, but then it does do 65 mpg in town.
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Agree reagrding snapping cables- roughly half ie 10 of the Pug Partners/ Cit Berlingo's at the place I work for run have snapped their cables when they get over 60000 miles on them.
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