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Does anyone know where to buy 25 litre cans of cooking oil at the cheapest price ?
Edited by Pugugly on 24/04/2008 at 10:13
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thought this was a motoring forum.....
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Probably Bookers - but come over to www.vegetableoildiesel.co.uk and get all the latest info.
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Nowhere, it comes in 20litre for health and safety reasons (manual handling). You can get 20l at any cash and carry, or Tesco in an Asian area.
Edited by Hamsafar on 23/04/2008 at 20:57
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Our neighbour, who uses cooking oil in his diesel, buys it from large Tesco (non-Asian area but still has Asian section with giant oil containers) and says you also can get it cheap in Lidl and Aldi. Ask your local chippie!!
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hi, y not buy biodiesel?? 80pp litre?
lee
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Bearing in mind the food shortages in some parts of the world isn't it a bit naughty to fuel a car with unused cooking oil?
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Bearing in mind the food shortages in some parts of the world isn't it a bit naughty to fuel a car with unused cooking oil?
You can eat cooking oil now? its a magical substance isn't it?
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You can eat cooking oil now? its a magical substance isn't it?
:o)
I think there is a genuine ethical issue though: people can make do without vegetable oil, but farmers are increasingly growing crops to produce oil as this is more profitable than growing crops for food. Less production of certain foodstuffs leads to higher prices, something we are seeing now which is partly caused by biofuel production, and also to a shortage in some countries of essential foods.
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>> Bearing in mind the food shortages in some parts of the world isn't it a bit naughty to fuel a car with unused cooking oil?
The EEC/EC have not had such moral scruples for the last 20 years; 8-15% of agricultural land as compulsory set-aside land to prevent agricultural over-production; paying farmers not to grow crops. It was partly for environmental reasons but also "to reduce costly surpluses".
Now all of a sudden this food/ fuel conflict of interest becomes big news, and it makes great headlines that these renewable fuels are actually quite bad doesnt it? I do think the 3rd world deforestation to grow fuel crops is criminal and should be stamped out. But closer to home we have had 'spare' land available for years.
The UK had around 1.4 million acres of set-aside in 2006, of which around 12% was used for 'industrial' crops. Set-aside limit has been set at 0% for 2008.
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Rich - couldn't agree more.
Depending on the crop used, my admittedly crude calculations suggest we could provide 5% of the total annual road fuel requirement for the UK on this 2006 set aside land alone. That's without affecting food production, rain forests, or anything else.
Cheers
DP
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DP, yes I believe thats about right, 5% and rising as production efficiency increases.
cheers,
Rich.
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Recycled edible oil can be used again but develops toxins after a point, rendering it unsuitable for further consumption. There does not appear to be any ethical objection to using it for motoring at that stage.
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Is the oil checked out as 'fuel quality'? If it isn't, avoid it like the plague. Remember that vegetable oils are one of the original foundations of the paint industry, i.e. they oxidise to form films. If you really want that going on in your fuel pipes ...?
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Dunno about the whole world, but in Brazil where I have been living for the last 10 years, the environmental issue isn't so much deforestation (it is happening, but not for fuel), it's water.
Brazil has an enormous ethanol industry, most of which comes from sugar cane. The production itself is very efficient - it is self fueling, and is a byproduct of sugar production that would otherwise go to waste. The 'cost' of production is miniscule compared to production of other types of ethanol (such as corn), and biodiesels.
But sugar cane needs a lot of water, and large areas of Brazil don't have enough. Irrigation schemes are put in place to solve that, and the environmental impact of those are negative. Depending on who you listen to of course, I tend to take the extreme doom-mongerers views with a pinch of salt, but nobody says it's good.
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