24 years with a clean licence, must have done a million miles driving around the country in previous jobs, nowadays 99% of my time is spent driving a Citroen C15 diesel van that couldnt speed if it wanted to.
Borrow 'er indoors Pug for an hour and bosh lasered doing 80 in a 70mph limit.
Had to tell someone so where better than TBR.
Darn it!
CBG
Edited by Pugugly on 12/04/2008 at 11:36
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Reading between the lines, it sounds as if you're bragging that you've transgressed before but that this is the first time you've got caught.
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Do you remember what your speedo-reading was? Many under-read by up to 10%, so at 80mph you may have had 85-90mph showing on the Pug speedo. Got to be careful on dual-carriageways - watch out for hill-crests and sweeping left-handers, remember where the parking spots / pull-offs are, if you don't know the road keep to the limits - this really is a game these days - easy money for the Camera Partnerships.
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No have no idea, was Just popping along the same speed as the rest of the world.
The fact that I was in the Pug not the van may have meant that I was lulled into the world of quiet and speed, or maybe I was just supid.
Anyway, from now on I will always have one eye on the speedo.
Or better still will stick to the van.
CBG
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Yes, I most likely have transgressed before but I am not an habitual speeder, never had an accident, never been stopped by the police, have driven as part of my job thousands of miles a week with no incident. Just a bit peeved.
All I wanted was a bit of sympathy!
CBG
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Sympathies, CBG. All it takes is a moment's inattention for whatever reason then - as you say - bosh, they've got you.
I'm just waiting for all the 'well, if you speed what do you expect' brigade, red-faced and breathing ire, to hurriedly log on so they can shoot us both down in flames.
Yes, you should always drive within the speed limits but the thing is, being human, we are fallible. All of us.
Bad luck, CBG. Hope people aren't too hard on you :-)
Cheers.
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>>Reading between the lines, it sounds as if you're bragging that you've transgressed before >>but that this is the first time you've got caught.
Rats, one of 'em beat me to it!
No offence meant, Mr Snail.
Cheers.
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No offence meant Mr Snail.
You'd have a job to offend me. I'm pretty thick skinned........ er, shelled.
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>> No offence meant Mr Snail. You'd have a job to offend me. I'm pretty thick skinned........ er shelled.
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Ah, that's good. I didn't want you to send all of your little snaily friends along to devour my begonias. Mind you, your friends would have to live fairly close otherwise it'd be Christmas by the time they got here...
Now then, motoring. Ah yes, I'm just off to drive to Chorley to see my daughters. Does that count? :-)
Cheers.
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From memory methinks L?escargot isn?t whiter than white in the NIP department.
Could be wrong, though.
Clk Sec
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Our local speed enforcement organisations often target vans on a nearby NSL dual carriadgeway, must be easy money as few keep even near their 60 limit.
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"All I wanted was a bit of sympathy!"
just think of it being `your turn`
Regards (and sympathy;)
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Much appreciated Mr Rag.
CBG
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O.N.
60mph in the C15 is a speed I rarely manage, maybe on a very good day with a long downhill run, wind assisting :-)
CBG
Edited by corblimeyguvnar{P} on 12/04/2008 at 14:02
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CBG
It only takes a moments inattention, I got my 3 points (now expired) by creeping up to 38 while talking to my grandson who was in th back seat. I now use cruise control set to the speed limit whenever possible. If your C15 does more than 20mph (or is it 15) you can get caught out.
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Old Navy
NSL on a dual carriageway is 70, not 60, which is why most people are exceeding 60.......
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Vans over a particular weight are limited to 60 though, even on a dual carriageway, though you'd never believe it.
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Vans over a particular weight are limited to 60 though even on a dual carriageway though you'd never believe it.
As well as vans that aren't car derived. eg, Ford Transit Connect.
Full list of speeds from the Highway code:-
www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Highwaycod...4
(approx a third of the way down the page)
Edited by Dynamic Dave on 12/04/2008 at 15:09
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Thanks PU, John S made me think (and check). Non motorway NSL for goods vehicles under 7.5 tons 60, over 7.5 tons 50. In the dark ages when I drove HGV it was 40. Does a pick up truck used a a private car count a goods vehicle? DD I type slowly, you got in first!
Edited by Old Navy on 12/04/2008 at 15:25
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Our local speed enforcement organisations often target vans on a nearby NSL dual carriageway must be easy money as few keep even near their 60 limit.
I believe that even today, ALL vans are limited to 40. That used to be the case years and years ago and was little heard of then. Whether that still exists or not I do not know, but MLC or another of our BIB's can advise.
Very grey here in north Devon this morning, welcome to Spring!
Best...........MD
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From memory methinks L?escargot isn?t whiter than white in the NIP department. Could be wrong though.
No NIP ever, but one SP30 fixed penalty 17 years ago from a roadside officer with a stopwatch. who timed me between two trees. And being in a red XR3i I was a sitting duck for that ~ it was every policeman's dream to catch any XR3i and particularly a red one.
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I drive a lot in my job.
Ive been done twice in last 3 years on motorways.
Speed on NIP very simlair to yours.
Twice Ive opted to go to court.
Guess what ..... twice they have not bothered.
ALWAYS ALWAYS fight them !!
However if anyone was driving at a stupid speed then you deserve all you get.
I personally class anything up to 80 on a motorway as OK ... normally if you pass a patrol car at this speed they dont even give you a glance.
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I do totally agree with you that 80 mph is not a dangerous speed in the correct conditions and have seen cars pass the old bill on motorways definitley doing around that and they havent been stopped but I was doing more than the 70mph limit so will take the hit, pay up, take the points.
BUT, I am no longer mild mannered CBG, I am now particulary peeved CorblimeyGuvnar and thats the last dosh this government are getting out of me.
Now where's that website about emmigrating?
Grrr!
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I don't want you to think I'm whiter than white but after being caught for speeding in 2003 I've stuck to all speed limits as best I can. I find life more relaxing and journey times are not much less.
At times sticking to limits, especially 30mph in town, results in "bullying" from drivers behind me so I have to make sure that I let them through when I can.
OK, I don't drive for a living and appreciate the dificulties for those that do. However, I'm thinking of van driving to occupy me now I've given up doctoring and I will tell any employer up-front that I will not exceed speed limits for them.
I'm no saint but believe that, especially in the town, speed limits are there to save the lives of pedestrians and cyclists. This thought slows me down.
However, it has taken me over 30 years of driving to learn this lesson.
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I do think the lack of discretion in these matters is ridiculous and must harm many people's opinion of the Police, even if it's a Scamera Partnership that catches them.
Anyone caught by a fixed camera in a 30/40 deserves everything they get, but the sneaky main road & motorway bridge mobile camera's are not doing anything for road safety. You're really only likely to be caught when the road is at its least dangerous and there isn't much traffic around. Once it gets busy the traffic all slows anyway.
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Got my Conditional Offer Of Fixed Penalty, ie pay up and take the 3 points or forever live in fear of the force.
Duly paid my penalty.
New Zealand it is then :-)
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Dunno CBGV... they're a bit strict about letting people with criminal records in down under these days, and reminding the Australians of their penal-colony origins won't get you far either...
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At least you won't need insurance there.
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Old Bill out in force this afternoon!, day off chaps?
Not a Happy Bunny, yes I was caught speeding, but if it had been a proff pulling me over and giving me a rollocking, that I could live with, in fact live with and pay the fine and take the points, but not a happy snapper scammerer revenue generating civil servant.
CBG
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and reminding the Australians of their penal-colony origins won't get you far either...
Reminds me of the Brit at immigration at Sydney airport.
'Do you have a criminal record?' asked the customs officer.
'Didn't realise you still needed one,' he replied.
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Sold my criminal record on e-bay!
It was Delilah by Tom Jones.
Ok ok, I'm going........................MD
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Weren't you offered the option of a speed awareness course?
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Nope, nothing like that, they prefer hard cash down here!
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you have to admit, you'll be a flippin lot more careful in future- I know I am! only 4 years it will be off your licence , but nsurance company will sting you for five ( don't forget to tell them now)
I check the local scamera website every week, and the sites of where I am going ( counties).
But you can still speed on B/C roads, no scameras there ,and most motorways. so that will stuff them
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Corblimey,
I know how you feel mate. I've had three in as many months, all for 37,36,36 in a 30 limit. After 34 years driving, Im suddenly a menance to society.
I won't winge too much, but just to say that the holier than thou types must be so sure that they have never strayed over the limit that they feel happy to criticise.
The "partnerships" have it good though. For them its like shooting fish in a barrel, kerching, kerching ............
Mind I drive really slow now these days!
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My sympathy, CBG
One of the morals of the tale is that if you are used to driving a certain car, and then drive one which is considerably more powerful and/or more refined, you often find yourself going a lot faster than you think.
It has happened to me on one or two occasions - most notably in the days when I drove a 49bhp Ford Fiesta and was in the USA on holiday. I got a 3.5 litre sedan as a hire car, which was very nice. However, on one occasion I found my speedometer telling me that I was doing 85mph. Luckily, the officers of the law were not observing me at the time.
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The points system is completely broken. It wasn't designed for automated camera enforcement, it was designed when real live policemen had to pull you over. Only the really serious speeders would get pulled over - you wouldn't have seen a policeman pull someone over for doing 35 in a 30, unless they were driving dangerously. Something is seriously wrong with the system when several million drivers have penalty points, and over a million of those are one minor speeding offence away from a ban.
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24 years with a clean licence must have done a million miles driving around....
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Blimey, I misread your post, initially. I thought it said that you're 24 years old and had already driven a million miles in the last 7 years!!
Edited by Dynamic Dave on 19/04/2008 at 21:01
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Are the scamera partnerships civil servants? I had it in my mind they were outside of the usual local gov set up.
I'm with doctorchris on this, but would just add that after getting nicked (in the old fashioned way) about 15 years ago I always watch my speed around town.
With all the cameras about now we're all probably spending more time watching our speedometers rather than looking out of the windows to see what's happening around us. That must be a distraction that decreases safety.
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Camera partnerships bring together police, highway authorities and the courts working to improve road safety (or fleece the public if you prefer the conspiracy angle) in their respective areas. They are not part of the civil service as such though Magistrates court staff, who do some of the fine collection work, will be employees of the Court Service. Police usually seem to have lead (eg chairing boards etc). Googling will find examples of local structures - the Northants page is at :-
www.northants.police.uk/default.asp?action=article...3
(I am a civil servant but I have nothing to do with transport, policing or enforcement)
Edited by Bromptonaut on 20/04/2008 at 10:10
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........cough, cough......
Van driver? 24 years of undetected crime?
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Only been in the van for couple of years, please note, it is a 9 year old diesel Citroen C15!!
O-60, some time next week, top speed 65, if your lucky and dont have anything in the back!
Apparantly Covonia is good for a cough DVD :-)
CBG
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