First Clarkson, now Cameron - martint123
String 'em up!

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7308400.stm

Conservative leader David Cameron has apologised after being photographed ignoring red lights and cycling the wrong way up a one-way street.
First Clarkson, now Cameron - Pugugly
Whoops !
First Clarkson, now Cameron - FotheringtonThomas
Gosh, what a naughty boy!

What's the penalty for going through red traffic lights on a bicycle (or, for that matter, goung the wrong way along a one-way street)?
First Clarkson, now Cameron - Lud
'Boris flattens 90-year-old disabled pensioner while cycling on pavement'

Any day now...
First Clarkson, now Cameron - daveyjp
What's the penalty for going through red traffic lights on a bicycle (or for that
matter goung the wrong way along a one-way street)?

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Prison if you kill somebody - possible when one of the red lights was a pedestrian crossing and on one way streets you only expect vehicles to be coming one way so many people don't check both ways.

Edited by daveyjp on 21/03/2008 at 16:43

First Clarkson, now Cameron - zookeeper
What's the penalty for going through red traffic lights on a bicycle



instant death if your lucky or failing that a prolonged coma then death but if your really lucky a wheelchair
First Clarkson, now Cameron - Roger Jones
What an idiot. That's going to put a bigger dent in his credibility than he might imagine.
First Clarkson, now Cameron - Leif
What an idiot. That's going to put a bigger dent in his credibility than he
might imagine.



Maybe not. It makes him look human. He's a bit daft though given his position.
First Clarkson, now Cameron - Lud
Of course the scandal is that these craven snufflers after the electorate's approval have to pretend to be cyclists instead of charging about in Bentleys the way they should.

I despair of this country sometimes.
First Clarkson, now Cameron - Pugugly
Excellent - but at least he uses his bike when he thinks he's off-camera.
First Clarkson, now Cameron - Martin Devon
Excellent

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I'm with Lud. Lord give us ruddy strength. Have the press and all of the rest of the high street bankers got nothing better to do? The world is at war. Innocent people are dying and being deprived of the basics and you lot and the rest of the country feel that this is news. Almost gives credibilty to Posh et al.

MD
First Clarkson, now Cameron - Pugugly
I was "excellenting" Lud's comment and not the exposé ! I know I should have quoted the post of course !

Edited by Pugugly on 21/03/2008 at 19:23

First Clarkson, now Cameron - Martin Devon
I know Boss, but you know me, had to get my two pennies in.

VBR..............MD
First Clarkson, now Cameron - nortones2
Its not as if he drove a 2 tonne battlewagon, with bull-bars, at warp factor through the lights: he stopped in front of the white line. No sense of proportion in the outrage here!
First Clarkson, now Cameron - jmaccyd
Pointless story like the Clarkson thing. Dead people piled up in Iraq and dodgy bankers being bailed out by us all and this is what our media are presenting
First Clarkson, now Cameron - Pugugly
I was scared of saying that very thing.
First Clarkson, now Cameron - Martin Devon
If he got splat through his actions so be it, but I really feel the whole of the UK is obsessed with trivia. We all complain about control and then loads of the populace seem to be absorbed by it unwittingly. IT ISN'T NEWS WORTHY.

The Gurkha pension rip off IS, as is TIBET.

Come on folk....get a grip.

Drink Bitter.....snooze. Lager....argue!
First Clarkson, now Cameron - Pugugly
You're right of course. Some very important stuff being kept out of the headlines, and thus from our national conciousness, nothing new in that of course, just think of Chamberlin's words about the Czechoslovakians in 1938. Think of Rwanda. Think of Afghanistan under the Taliban. Think of a hundred thousand deaths every day due to wars in far off countries. Do I care about some singer's coke addiction ? - not at all.

Edited by Pugugly on 21/03/2008 at 20:06

First Clarkson, now Cameron - Alby Back
"Soma" wasn't it ? The stuff that kept the populace blissfully unaware of the hopelessness of their plight. :-(

Will now return to cheerful trivia !
First Clarkson, now Cameron - Martin Devon
I will say my piece and I HOPE that it will not get swiped. New thread maybe.

Right. I do actually largely subscribe to the survival of the fittest, but it is beyond my comprehension that thousands, yes thousands, if the figures are to be believed, of Children and Adults just DIE, yes die every day because of lack of basic food and water. We 'intelligent' countries pour money into these places 'run' by despots. They nick the money and we just DO NOTHING!!!!! And yes, before I am berated by someone I really do understand that nothing is simple and logistics and many other factors all play roles in any eventual outcome. I am not in favour of the Charity penny raising route because, although it is well intentioned it cannot make much difference. Governments need to use their powers wisely and to action real change. We need statesmen who drive Bentley's not ride pushbikes. We need men not...................AAGH!!

I know the regulars won't believe this, but I am sitting here struggling to find the words (without ranting too much) to describe what I feel about the whole scenario of the average brain dead Britain now, the tabloid 'reading', sunny delight microwave generation that sees no further than the next roll up or soap opera, "wots opra we hear them cry". I wish I could be a conman co's they are there for the taking.

NEWS is important. 'Celebrity' CARP is more......................AAAAAAGH!!

Rant over........(part 1 that is)

Very very best regards to you all.....Martin.

Edited by Pugugly on 21/03/2008 at 21:11

First Clarkson, now Cameron - Lud
I believe you MD, no problem.

I used to go to Africa a lot. Got a lot of friends from the African diaspora. In those circles there is naturally a lot of comment on our famous British hypocrisy, our imperialist and colonialist past. As you say though, these matters are complex, the devil is in the detail. It's true that in the past thuggish elements in our country and others used racist ideology of one sort and another to justify the triangular Atlantic trade, which followed the conquest of India in providing this country with a lot of wealth. And that trade was certainly in many aspects inhuman and horrible.

What people don't fully understand, unless they have gone into history in some detail, is that the people making money from that trade were also what might be called 'racist' towards the lower and working classes in their own countries. Mid 19th-century factory workers, and their families, may not have been slaves but they certainly weren't privileged Britons.

The press and electronic media supply a sort of white noise of patter from which careful readers and listeners may be able to extract nuggets of information. But for a real understanding of the world as it was and is, you need to go elsewhere, and keep working at it. Of course most people don't really want that understanding. It causes overload in many, and can lead to suicidal despair in those of sensitive disposition.
First Clarkson, now Cameron - martint123
This happens to be a motoring forum.

Sad as it may be, poverty and war belong elsewhere.
First Clarkson, now Cameron - Martin Devon
I rest my case. Any other business perhaps? cameron still ain't news
First Clarkson, now Cameron - Pugugly
I may well be biased but MD's "rant" was inexorably linked to the OP story. But as suggested by martin let's go back on topic.
First Clarkson, now Cameron - freakybacon
Typical. Leftwing media (government controlled BBC, Mirror newscomic) strikes out first at popular right wingers- firstly Jeremy Clarkson, and that particular scalp would be a prize worth having for any police service- and now, David Cameron, leader of the hated conservative party. How dare he cycle to work and court the environment vote?
First Clarkson, now Cameron - Pugugly
I think it says more about the British press than Mr Cameron's transgressions. As a friend said yesterday (who speaks softly but carries a big stick so to speak) its "Hardly makes the hacks in question Bernstein and Woodward does it" Which says it all I think.
First Clarkson, now Cameron - Avant
Absolutely agree, PU. If this paper has nothing better to do than send a reporter out deliberately to follow David Cameron and spot any transgressions, what hope have people who rely on it for their news got of understanding the issues come the next election?
First Clarkson, now Cameron - BazzaBear {P}
Of course, since he clearly feels so strongly about this breach of law, I'm sure the journalist who followed Cameron the wrong way up a one-way street went straight to the nearest police station to hand himself in after he's stopped filming, right?
First Clarkson, now Cameron - Pugugly
I was wondering about that, may have been on "blades" I suppose.